Triple buffering + Vsnyc high frame rates for TFT owners!

[glaucoma]

Re: Triple buffering + Vsnyc high frame rates for TFT owners!

One problem glaucoma... that version does not work with punkbuster
it will kick you thinking its a hack, because that version uses a hook
rather than the beta versions forcing it

whoops, thanks for the warning, I edited my post so noone gets hurt

[redrider]

Re: Triple buffering + Vsnyc high frame rates for TFT owners!

I found the problem I had and fixed it. The line should be " +menu 1 +fullscreen 1 +modpath mods " . This is the correct line for arguments in vanilla BF2. If no one with an LCD will test your other settings I will. I will be back in about 20 min just make a post and tell me to. I am using a CRT and it looks like a photograph when Im in game. Most realistic looking thing Ive ever seen. . . . .Red

[imported_Anzen]

Re: Triple buffering + Vsnyc high frame rates for TFT owners!

Oh and btw before anybody mentions it..... Triple buffering in the ati and
nvidia drivers is ONLY for opengl, whereby battlefield 2 is a D3D game
this is the problem because of WHQL restrictions graphics drivers are not allowed to force triple buffering with d3d apps *thanks microsoft*. Games
must also support triple buffering like unreal tourney does... but many games like f.e.a.r,battlefield 2,need for speed DO NOT support triple buffering.

This is where directx tweaker comes in and forces it

You know why this is? Because Unreal is the only one to make decent engines.

[BLOODUK]

Ok cool redrider just change count to 3 , vsync to one , and put your hz in
come back and report any difference is it worse or better

You know why this is? Because Unreal is the only one to make decent engines.

A fully tweakable ini file, ive always liked that

[redrider]

Re: Triple buffering + Vsnyc high frame rates for TFT owners!

OK doing it now. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . The video grafics are much richer but Im starting to get a few jitters now and again. If it was a film Id say Id skipped a couple of frames. But only during heavy action. . . . . . .By the way Im running a XFX Nvida 6600 (not a GT) with 256 mb at 100HZ, I have 3 gig ram, with a 3.2 P4 2meg L2 running at 100HZ, A 120 gig SATA Drive and its on a ASUS P5DG2 premium motherboard, running win. XP SP2. Im using the 81.95 video driver, and the best part ( to me ) is I built this baby myself.

[pYura]

I single question: what if I use CoolBits 2.0 and turn on tripple buffering in the settings. will see I sec and I'm back

well it was just as fine when I used the teaker.... than I made a test tuning off tripple buffering and it still did get worse. One thing realy help my fps to get higher.... rename the bf2.exe file yeah, thats just stuped but it realy works and I think this tweaker makes only one difference: makes this exe file unrecognisable for the driver so it wont decrease your speed. I know it all doesnt seem to have sense, but its the way it is...............

[BLOODUK]

OK doing it now. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . The video grafics are much richer but Im starting to get a few jitters now and again. If it was a film Id say Id skipped a couple of frames. .

Ok leave it at number 2 then , jitters are probably being caused by
too many back buffers at level 3 :)

I single question: what if I use CoolBits 2.0 and turn on tripple buffering in the settings. will see I sec and I'm back

Thats still only opengl triple buffering, the only way to get tb with d3d
is directx tweaker OR ati tool

Ok ill post some images

This is VSYNC enabled 60HZ - NO directx tweaking Triple buffer



This is VSNYC enabled 60HZ - Directx tweaking triple buffer ON



Now imagine how many months ive had to put up with some games
frame rate diving to 30fps just because i have to have it vsyncd at 60HZ
as vsync off terrible tearing and frame stutter. With this tweaker
gaming life is PERFECTION

[WiredEvolution]

Re: Triple buffering + Vsnyc high frame rates for TFT owners!

You get to an area that's particularly graphically intensive, an area that would drop your FPS down to about 60 without VSync. Now your card cannot do the 75FPS it was doing before, and since VSync is on, it has to do the next highest one on the list, which is 37.5FPS. So now your game which was running at 75FPS just halved it's framerate to 37.5 instantly. Whether or not you find 37.5FPS smooth doesn't change the fact that the framerate just cut in half suddenly, which you would notice. This is what people hate about it.

Thanks BloodUK! That paragraph really helped me understand vsync on a tft, and hence sold the idea to me. I'm running a 7800GTX and can run 1600*1200 max settings on my 2405fpw (60hz). Without vsync is would be from 30-100 (averageing at 60-80)... which resulted in tearing. With vsync enabled it would average to 60 but you would get moments where it's slowing down to 30fps.

Now it is smooth as butta with min/average of circa 57fps (max obv. 60).

Incidentally: No mouse lag (with or without) DXTweaker.


Just to confirm for anyone just joining the thread: This is genuine and does improve image quality (undeniably) and also gives the impression of a higher framerate (due to less 'drops').

Very good find BloodUK, you know your stuff!

Peace.
Gary


PS- hello everybody, 1st post here :p

PSS-
I couldnt find a summary of how to get this working, so here's mine:

1. Install .NET 1.1 or 2.0(if you haven't already).
2. Download DXTweaker (1.3mb rar file) from here.
3. Unzip to desired location (anywhere that's convenient).
4. Run DXTControl.
5. Create a profile for BF2, and specify your settings in Load Modules (instructions here).
6. How to create a profile for your BF2 mods (here).
7. Launch the game using DXTweaker by pressing the START button (with DXTweaker).

Best of luck!

[BLOODUK]

Re: Triple buffering + Vsnyc high frame rates for TFT owners!

WiredEvolution

Stop it , you're making me blush :)

[sooty1977]

Re: Triple buffering + Vsnyc high frame rates for TFT owners!

Just wanted to say thx BLOODUK

[BLOODUK]

Your welcome sooty..

Hope everyone here has a great 2006!

Would it be possible for mods to sticky this thread?

[vbl]

Re: Triple buffering + Vsnyc high frame rates for TFT owners!

It would be possible for a mod to move it to another forum.

[Regent]

Install ,Net 1.1 or 2.0..... Or install .Net 1.1 AND 2.0...........?

I tried ATI Tray Tools, but I can't stand to look at the monitor with a 60 Hz refresh rate. I get a massive headache from the flicker. I've never been able to tolerate a desktop refresh rate less than 85, and only 100 looks really good to me.

[miraz]

Re: Triple buffering + Vsnyc high frame rates for TFT owners!

Looks pretty good im gonna try it tonight.

[pYura]

Thats still only opengl triple buffering, the only way to get tb with d3d
is directx tweaker OR ati tool

I have 6800GT just as you...

I tried ATI Tray Tools, but I can't stand to look at the monitor with a 60 Hz refresh rate. I get a massive headache from the flicker. I've never been able to tolerate a desktop refresh rate less than 85, and only 100 looks really good to me.

we are talking about TFTs not CRTs, thats another story...

I just dont understand... you can turn on your back buffer to 2 with CoolBits 2.0 http://downloads.guru3d.com/download.php?det=815
and its just much more simple that way..... why do we nned these .net stuff and tweakers??!