Triple buffering + Vsnyc high frame rates for TFT owners!

[BLOODUK]

Re: Triple buffering + Vsnyc high frame rates for TFT owners!

Cheers WiredEvolution , i had explained that to him about 10 times
but it seems to be going through an empty space and really
not taking it in.

[redrider]

Re: Triple buffering + Vsnyc high frame rates for TFT owners!

Someone posted that Blooduk ripped off something I posted. Not so. The only thing that I added to this was that it works great on CRTs and because that you now have a higher frame rate you will get the score you deserve. No more excuses. If your game play su<ks, it will still suck. If you are like me average you are gonna start seeing more games where you score above 50 points. All I did was collect the info here and confirm it. Everyone else that posted here tried it and was so happy about it that they played the game and didnt come back. Im like the sick man that was healed and came back to say thanks, now can I do something for you.

I am an industrial electrician, when I work on broken machines no one cares how its fixed. All they care about is, is it fixed now. I am happy to report its fixed now. . . . . . .Red

[pYura]

Re: Triple buffering + Vsnyc high frame rates for TFT owners!

PYura.
The settings you see in your Display Properties (ForceWare window) and CoolBits panel only apply to OpenGL applications. BattleField2 is a game made with Direct3D.

The settings you change (or 'force') in those windows will not effect Direct3D games like BF2.

As BloodUK has explained and linked to 'force' Triple Buffering in Direct3D applications/games you must use Direct3DTweaker. This is a limitation imposed by the Direct3D API. Developers can enable such things, but if it's not supported by the developer then you and I must use such tweaks like DirectXTweaker to 'force' the properties.


Hope that helps.
Gary

thaaankYOU!! at last someone who can explan clearly....

ui.: and BLOODUK stop insulting me, k?:|:

[JCFast]

Re: Triple buffering + Vsnyc high frame rates for TFT owners!

Tried this just a few minutes ago. Didn't actually help me. I got a steady fps of 60 but in excessive combat it dropped below 30 as well. My fps doesn't go that low without this tweak. So atleast for now = won't be using this.

[claevade]

Re: Triple buffering + Vsnyc high frame rates for TFT owners!

ui.: and BLOODUK stop insulting me, k?:|:

He wasn't insulting...he was very right, he kept on telling you exactly the same and you just didn't take it, while he was 100% right.

@Cambridge, are you sure you did it properly, since 30 and 60 FPS describes exactly how VSync works without Triple Buffering enabled.

[pYura]

Re: Triple buffering + Vsnyc high frame rates for TFT owners!

He wasn't insulting...he was very right, he kept on telling you exactly the same and you just didn't take it, while he was 100% right.

@Cambridge, are you sure you did it properly, since 30 and 60 FPS describes exactly how VSync works without Triple Buffering enabled.

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well MAYBE I didnt get it and maybe its my fault, but its not my falut the english is not my motherlanguage!!

[pYura]

Re: Triple buffering + Vsnyc high frame rates for TFT owners!

I have tested it again in Sharqi at the TV station (like in one of your screenshot-posts before)

VSyinc ON
-Coolbits: ~30fps
-DXTweak: ~45fps

I have 3200+AMD and 6800GT with 2gigs ram
I run the game in 1280x1024 resolution with medium high settings and 2xAA

what do you think?
what is your computer like and what are your sttings and fps? BLOODUK

[JCFast]

Re: Triple buffering + Vsnyc high frame rates for TFT owners!

What I did was: I installed the Tweaker, put in the BF2 moduls and arguments. Then I put the settings as in the 1st page help says and then run the game. Got nearly the same results as I described above.

It's the maximum ~60 fps but it drops dramatically in action, doesn't happen without V-Sync.

[AlphaNut]

Re: Triple buffering + Vsnyc high frame rates for TFT owners!

Are you sure that you checked, and highlighted the field called "Present Changer", and then entered a "2" in in the modules settings properties box for the Backbuffer "Count" field?
What kind of video card are you using, and what is your driver version?

[JCFast]

Re: Triple buffering + Vsnyc high frame rates for TFT owners!

Yup I did the exact thing.
X850XT
5.13 CCC

[claevade]

Re: Triple buffering + Vsnyc high frame rates for TFT owners!

I have tested it again in Sharqi at the TV station (like in one of your screenshot-posts before)

VSyinc ON
-Coolbits: ~30fps
-DXTweak: ~45fps

I have 3200+AMD and 6800GT with 2gigs ram
I run the game in 1280x1024 resolution with medium high settings and 2xAA

what do you think?
what is your computer like and what are your sttings and fps? BLOODUK

You are making me tired, sorry.

Let me explain, Coolbits Triple Buffering settings doesn't effect Battlefield 2 AT ALL, NOT AT ALL, NOT NOT NOT. OK, point taken. Why? Well Coolbits Triple Buffering only effect games which use OpenGL, for example Doom 3 does.

Battlefield 2 though uses Direct3D. DirectXTweaker (yes did you notice the "direct" in both?) can enable Triple Buffering for Battlefield 2... Wonderful so far isn't it?

So with Coolbits there is NO Triple Buffering in Battlefield 2, with DirecXTweaker there is Triple Buffer in Battlefield 2.

So with Coolbits there is NO Triple Buffering in Battlefield 2, with DirecXTweaker there is Triple Buffer in Battlefield 2.

Ok, point taken?

VSync without Triple Buffering gives you (on 60Hz) either 60 or 30 or even lower FPS, hardly any fluctuations just a frozen 30 FPS mainly. That's what you noticed when using Coolbits, again... Coolbits didn't effect Battlefield 2, so you had VSync without Triple Buffering at that point, so a frozen FPS of 30 exactly (why VSync synchronizes and makes it when unable to use 60FPS half of 60Hz is 30 FPS).

Though Triple Buffering buffers the frames before it shows them and with VSync that therefore results in some more FPS, no more frozen 30FPS anymore. And DirectXTweaker is the tool that allows us to use Triple Buffering in Direct3D games, like Battlefield 2 is and when using VSync that is as I said good.

I did use a lot of irony, but I really hope this explains it to you.

Personally I did lose some FPS when using VSync ofcourse, but no more frozen FPS thanks to Triple Buffering, it's just if you want the tearing graphics OR no VSync. VSync will still cost you some FPS ofcourse, but less than when having a frozen FPS of 30 all the time.

[pYura]

Re: Triple buffering + Vsnyc high frame rates for TFT owners!

You are making me tired, sorry.

You better be... cus I said I FUKIN UNDERSTAND THE REASON THAT BF2 IS NOT OPENGL AND COOLBITS CHALGES ONLY opengl so it works in doom3 and quake4. WAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!! stuped haxxx!! at least it seems to be working -.-

[pYura]

Re: Triple buffering + Vsnyc high frame rates for TFT owners!

new question that will p!ss you off by no reason: how do i run BF2SF with that tweakerthing EXACTLY?

[claevade]

Re: Triple buffering + Vsnyc high frame rates for TFT owners!

You better be... cus I said I FUKIN UNDERSTAND THE REASON THAT BF2 IS NOT OPENGL AND COOLBITS CHALGES ONLY opengl so it works in doom3 and quake4. WAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!! stuped haxxx!! at least it seems to be working -.-

Uhm... Why did you post about those 30fps then, if you know what the reason of the difference is? Whatever, leave it :) .

new question that will p!ss you off by no reason: how do i run BF2SF with that tweakerthing EXACTLY?

You're kidding, I give up!

No joking...sorry, I will explain.

Make a new profile in DirectXTweaker. Take the exact same settings as for BF2, only change the thrid Arguments line to ""C:\Program Files\EA GAMES\Battlefield 2\BF2.exe" +menu 1 +fullscreen 1 +modPath mods/xpack +ignoreAsserts 1". That's the only difference.

[pYura]

Re: Triple buffering + Vsnyc high frame rates for TFT owners!

Make a new profile in DirectXTweaker. Take the exact same settings as for BF2, only change the thrid Arguments line to ""C:\Program Files\EA GAMES\Battlefield 2\BF2.exe" +menu 1 +fullscreen 1 +modPath mods/xpack +ignoreAsserts 1". That's the only difference.

It didnt help in SF I think, I still have bad fps...

Question: I still have enabled VSyinc and tripple buffer in coolbits AND dxtweaker also... is it correct or is it make no difference....