Shielding CS:S

[Sparks4545]

CobbeH wrote..

Being around longer, and being apart of a 'skilled' community I can honestly say my view is more important for the future of CS. If you want realism go and play Rainbow 6, CS was all about fun, and even Gooseman said that he'd make CS to what the community wants. What went wrong when VALVe took over is beyond me, but what they can do is make CS: Source more enjoyable again, and by adding cockend shields and the likes it really is just going to ruin it.

No offense, but your conceded... I've been around for four years, playing since 8th grade now a senior in High school, but even I don't say "well, I'm more important, so duh dee do hey lala." I know there are new newbies who naturally can play CS amazingly, probably better than you. But hey, you're more important, right ass?



Anyways, I believe the shield can be an effective (currently too effective), balanced weapon if some issues were taken care of. You know, I joke around when playing with people in pubs saying stuff like, "Yeah, I think they should balance the shield by making a wooden shield for the T's that breaks after a while and gives you a hard time!" No, we really don't want that, haha. What we want if fairness. Balance.

So how can you possibly balance the shield? There are a number of ways I have thought of: Be less resistant to damage than normal, make it so you can only use the glock or five-seven, make it destructable with nades, or make it generally harded to work with: you can't move it so fast, you can't walk as fast, you can't jump so high, and you receive more damage if you fall.



Thanks-

Mike

[D of the O J]

whoa... don't even get started on the dualies....

[kontrol]

tbh i think it should stay but have Cvar to disable the shield

[popewax|psycho]

I've already given my two cents before but this really should've been a poll, I mean come on look at this, plus you guys make probably one of the stupidest polls about CS: Source I've seen :| Should've been about the shield not what we think about CS Source, its a CS Fan site for a large majority it'll be "OMG I LOVE IT ^_^"

[Daley1]

BOOT IT NOW! There was never any need for the shield, it is biased and should be removed fros cs:s.

[Lucius]

I like it. Leave it in.

[bidou]

[The Hitman]

zwing wrote..

im hearing people complaining about how hard it is to find a server where shield is banned or not.



LOOK HARDER!!!!



If shield is gonna get banned just because of that then maybe we should ban footsteps, flash lights, starting money, and friendly fire being able to be turned off.



My idea is to implement a new option in the server info.

In the Server Info Box, add another TAB on top. One Tab will display the currernt Server Info Information and the Second Tab will display the modification to the server.



For Example Heres an Image of my suggestion that i did with an image program. Of course its not perfect but just an idea of what im thinking.



image



*edit* STATS of course being the original Game Info Information

*edit2* i forgot to add arrows showing that it would continue down, but you guys get the idea....

I Agree With This Person, and This Could be a GREAT IDEA !

[AcolyteRedux]

Boot the shield, it's just a way for noobs to think their invincible and they back into corners where you can't hit the silly little bastards, thus making you knife them, and so the noobies complain that your cheating because nobody ever makes knife kills

[Mobil1Skyline]

why dont you just get rid of the AWP as well? it seems to be as much a source of drama and controversy as the shield.



the shield is a great asset for the user when used properly, but even then it still has some dramatic short comings which make it fair for everyone that isnt using one.



people who bitch about the shield are probably the same people who bitch about how 'cheap' the awp is. dont listen to them and keep the shield, its been a great addition to CS since it was introduced.

[DeFade]

efficient wrote..

We should keep it. If you don't like it, you can always disable it in the servers.

[CARTMAN]

it needs to be a server variable, not just something that requires a server mod.

[hax0r4]

fix it or get rid of it

[~^Anubis^~]

Sparks4545 wrote..

make it so you can only use the glock or five-seven,

I believe the ORIGINAL idea for the shield was to have it packaged with the five-seven, and have that be the only pistol you could use with it. Apparrently that idea got trashed, even though it was a good idea and would have kept it more balanced.

[Thortok2000]

ImJacksAmygdala wrote..#612

Why ins't this a site poll???

I'm guessing because they want logical arguements and described opinions, not the number of people that would vote one way or the other. They already know the majority dislikes it. The majority disliked the awp delay and removal of bunny hopping. But if you can support your opinion with logic, then they'll listen.



As far as logical arguements, I've read every comment since my own first comment (there were like 300 before it) and so far logical arguements against the shield are pretty limited. So far the biggest complaint is that it slows gameplay and shouldn't be on DE maps, but I'm still not entirely convinced of even that.



Beyond fixing it to be bug-free and balancing it against whatever the T's can do, there isn't much more to say.



In response to #627:



They need server variables for every gun/item, so that the items are grayed out and unbuyable like on AS maps. Mods shouldn't have to provide this functionality. This way the mods wouldn't have to disable autobuy either.