Shielding CS:S

[Sniper-Wolf]

After reading many posts about this subject many people miss the point of this cliffe and valve specifically asked "What would you guys think if we gave the shield the boot?" But mostly about 1/2 of the posts just include "boot it" or "i hate it" the fact is there not asking wether they should keep there asking what would be your reaction if the shield was removed, but I do happen to agree with many of the views and there were many impressive points made. I myself would be more happy to see the shield go the fact that I see players running around with primary weapons with the ability to still be shielded pisses me off and ruins the fun factor in cs. Also I agree not to kick the awp although I dislike it the fact that both teams can buy it doesnt bother me, while a team of ct's can just buy two gunners and a birgade of shielders just makes cs unfun. Doing nothing with the question above If they do happen to keep the shield I do have 3 suggestions:



1) Accuracy should dramatically decrease while using a shield because realistically if you were carrying a pistol by itself it would be much easier to aim then having a shield in the other hand...



2) Make sure all glitches have been removed...



3) Make some form of a counter to the shield for the terrorists why should one team get an extra while one doesnt...



If any of these were met Im sure that many people would stop complaining about the shield, most skilled cs players just dont like how the shield works in cs not the shield itself!



Whatever happens I know that many changes will be met with upcoming versions

[UnKnOwNdIsGraCe]

if they gonna keep it let ts get a damageable dead body they pick off the ground to use as a shield

[Nathan D.]

Exploding-Man wrote..

Or here is a better analogy.



Adding things adds to the gameplay. Taking things away subtracts from the gameplay. Its common logic =p

Depending on what is added and what is taken away. Anyways, I'm not replying anymore. Cliffe is a very intelligent person and I know whatever decision he makes, will be the right decision. Nuff said.

[MikeJ]

Who actually likes using the shield? And with that in mind, who likes coming up against a shielder? And with that still in mind, who likes both?



It doesn't seem to add anything. The 1.4 jumping bled off whatever was left of the fast-paced twitch arcade quake-style combat still lingering over from the beta days. Some would say that didn't add anything, but it changed the approach to certain tactics in the game to a much more tense and strategically sound method of attack as opposed to a charge-in-shoot-em-up style.



The shield seemingly tries to do just this in a way that doesn't seem well though out or necessary. And it doesn't even affect both teams. The offensive/defensive nature of the CTs strategy vary depending on the map objective type, yet the shield remains for them alone. It just isn't clear why they were given this device. It's confusing more than anything why the change is needed, or even appropriate, it just seems completely random and nonsensical.



I just don't get it. Jumping changes, clear. AWP nerfs, clear. Shield? You lost me.

[Smurfzilla]

HERES AN IDEA! pull a Cliffe, and add a delay to the shield! i will be MUCH happier, lol, just like the awp, when u put the shield to the side, give it a delay before u can shoot, or something, a delay after u reload, or something

[bballer8723]

Remove the shield. No question about it.

[alphaqb]

Boot it and bring back the ability to stay at the same speed after you land from jumping.

[bballer8723]

The shield slows down the game play alot. I haven't pubbed in a long time because my clan has been so active lately, but doesn't everyone hate when they run into someone using a shield and you have no way to kill them long range?



The shield would be a waste of time to fix all the bugs and make it usable in CS:S. Before I even play CSS I will be happy if the shield is gone. It was a horrible addition to the game and probably received more flaming then when bunny hopping was taken away or when my scoped m4 was taken away. It's banned from all league play. I mean I play CS a good 6 hours a day and I haven't seen anyone using a shield in serveral months. It might as well be removed from the game and not waste time developing it.



The one thing that I HATED about the shield from the first day of 1.6 was that my pistol was in my RIGHT HAND. I had been using left hand for 3+ years straight at the time and then the shield had my pistol stuck in the right hand with no way to fix it.



Overall: There is nothing positive to say about the shield. Remove the shield now. Thanks.

[aznflipboypride]

keep the shield if u dont like it u can always take it out in severs

[Omnova]

I think everyone should stop flaming/disproving/bashing everyone else, get a clue, and simply voice their opinion and back it up. They asked for opinions, not opinions labeled as facts by their respective owners. A lot of people outside this community despise it because so many people come off as jackasses with a few cogs and gears for brains.



Aside from the bugs in the current implementation, the thing I disagree with the most is that only CTs can buy the blasted things. Bebop already brought that up and explained the reasoning behind this disagreement - good man.

[A|ias9]

It's funny how so many people 'for' the shield tell us to take it out of 'our' servers. WTF? What server? To control 'your' server you'd need a server so how is that an argument? How many people have their own server?



Most servers allow shield but not many players choose to use it. I guess servers that new players play in might have a few shielders but that's because they are lost in CS and would rather hold a shield like a pussy and camp than actually play the game.



I would be extremely happy if the shield was gone forever!

[ioCS,undertaker]

Smurfzilla wrote..

HERES AN IDEA! pull a Cliffe, and add a delay to the shield! i will be MUCH happier, lol, just like the awp, when u put the shield to the side, give it a delay before u can shoot, or something, a delay after u reload, or something

Well it sounds funny but i think this is a good idea. They'd better make shield available only in cs_ maps, as it should be, and add a delay for moving it to side or in front of you. That should solve most of the problems. Then it will only be used for supplying cover to teammates, instead of running around to fool or piss somebody.

[c0rvette]

I wouldent say get rid of it but i would say add some anti shield weapon like a molotov like he said

[popewax|psycho]

Linux wrote..

All this posting and stuff, you really thing Valve will take the time to read 5xx++ posts, just because its about a shield and problems... If I were in Valve I would not do anything, but fix the shield and those who don't want it will have to deal it... The world doesn't freaking work around Counter-Strike... Yeah stuff is wrong and other crap, but FREAKING DEAL!!!!!

1. Valve has always been known to work with the community and interacts with them to see whats best.



2. Yes the world doesn't revolve around Counter-Strike, but I love how you got your panties in a bunch over this and complained on an on about it :\

Exploding-Man wrote..

Or here is a better analogy.



Adding things adds to the gameplay. Taking things away subtracts from the gameplay. Its common logic =p

Forgot to analyze this, that does seem relatively true but theres one fatal flaw. Adding things adds more aspects to gameplay, not necessarily good ones. Plus, taking something away thats been in the game for a year, in a 5 year old game, thats under constant fire, would be more of a return to normality than gameplay loss.

[mat.]

shield is good



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