Shielding CS:S

[sardiax]

i think its a waste of time, they're spending time making/fixing something that atleast a sizable portion of the community is clearly going to reject. at this point i think its better known for the bugs than any purpose it might have been intended to serve. i think valve should cut their losses and focus on getting counter-strike into hl2, then maybe someday we can return to this shield idea, but to me it seems this port has the potential to open up tons of new bugs. personally i'd cut the shield, until counter-strike source is established, or even hold it off for a counter-strike 2.



the shield could work, but bringing something that is already buggy into new ground doesn't sound like a good idea.

[El-Ztevo]

Boot the awful thing.

[RaptorRage]

Keep the shield for the CT's, and give the T's a trash can lid to make it fair and balanced.

[DRDUBS]

who cares about the shield...give us back 1.5 recoil for the m4 and make all assault rifles more powerful. Shooting someone in the face for 86 damage is retarded, and so is 5 hits for 94 damage. BTW the usp is officially pooper..it used to be so good.

[wingm8]

I dont think the shield is worth it. There always seems to be huge issues with the shield. I haven't seen any large groups that really think the shield is a must-have item. I sure don't like it. Everytime I am clearly not hitting the visible shield model on the screen, but the thing blocks the bullets anyway, it makes me so mad. Take that thing out!

[NimoTh]

Edited by [user="9070"] @ [time="1089010087"]

Though the idea was innovative and seemed like a spicy addition to game play, experience proves, that it's actually whack and therefore fits right next to the idea of vehicles and such. -- Boot it Valve!

[jagPanzer]

Leave it in and let the servers handle them.

Let CS:S make the adjustments to balance the game or remove any exploits.

[A|ias9]

I never wanted a shield in CS and probably never will. Valve seems to care too much about realism. They went and changed the zoom delay time of a gun we all knew and loved yet this ridiculous shield with random hit boxes stays in the game. The shield should have only covered the top half of your body to begin with. The way it is now is garbage. A shield is just frustrating to shoot at if not one bullet can penetrate it. The shield was put in the game for whiners and pussies(call them the forever-noobs). Real players don't hide behind a shield. If you see someone with a shield in a pub chances are it's been jacked or someone who's afraid of dying bought it.



The shield requires too little skill for a game that used to demand a lot...Take it out!

[Chris_D]

I haven't got time to read 9 pages so I'm sorry if this has already been mentioned.



The shield glitches should be eradicated in the Source engine because they should be able to physically simulate the shield. This would mean that to a certain degree of accuracy, if the bullet hits the shield - it hits the shield, if the bullet hits the CT - it hits the CT.



All in all it should be a lot more accurate.

[wheelow]

Remove it all together, or limit it to Hostage maps only.

[d o o d o o]

take it our, it was meant to make the awp less powerfull and steam did that for us with the delay shat. bottom line

[Daesh]

The shield would be fine if it was accurate. Also it shouldn't be invulnerable in my opinion. Maybe make it crack if it takes too much damage in certain places?



For example if it's awped 3, 4 times in the bottom corner then maybe the corner will get blasted away and the player's leg will become vulnerable.



Make it still a useful item but one that works and can't be whored too much

[TheAcorn]

Edited by [user="82828"] @ [time="1089010878"]

I say drop the shield, or if you must keep it, allow single-handed automatic weapons and make any rife .308+ penetrate 50% damage...



If only because I could believe it if .223 didn't go through a shield - but did push the shielder back - not 7.62x39mm (.308)- you can split cinderblocks with that sort of round, and I know that even the best kevlar is defeated by a .308 FMJ bullet. CS is realism based. That would make sense.



Though, I'd be happier if you dropped the shield and the AWP, and gave us an M24 in .308 instead of the AWP as a 1 shot chest/head kill, but 60 or so damage to the arm/leg, etc. It'd be practially as effective as the AWP, without instant death from being hit in the foot. That and who on earth is going to be using something in .338 lapua within 1500 yards? And if you must keep it, lets put it down to 5 rounds per clip like a real AWM.



WSM, anyone?



I dug CS because it was 'realism-based.' Not exactly realistic, sure, but, better than most (enemy territory, anyone? I want a .45 to drop a guy in one shot! You should see what these things do to frozen turkeys!!) The shield and AWP screw that up. Lose 'em both, and you'll lose the $4600 gun campers that make de_dust games last a full five minutes.



- also - all flames ignored - so don't bother quoting me, etc.

[OPIE]

Smurfzilla wrote..

dont say 'just remove it from your server' cuz like ive said before, YOU CANT SEARCH THAT ON PPLS SERVERS! its not something u can filter to look for, so its not worth joinin a server to see if its banned...just remove it, ppl will be glad in the end

Thats the point. You search out a server that has it removed by playing on many. When you find a server you enjoy I.E: The community of that server, the admins ect... you stick with the server. If you're complaining about going into a random server and not being able to have you're way and the game the way you like it...You have absolutly no valid argument and you're opinion is wasted.



Why not try the shield out in CS:S. With the enhancments of the HL2 engine there could be alot of better uses for the shield. Anyone who says remove it most likly is a person who just sits there and shoots the shield and then the person holding the shields hears the magical sound *CLICK CLICK* And then pops out and shoots.



There is more to counter-strike then just pointing and shooting. When you learn this, you will possibly have a understanding of the complex details about the game. When that happens let me know, I will give you a cookie, just make sure to ask you're mom first, don't want to spoil you're dinner now.



The closer a "shielder" is to you, the less effective the shield is. The shield has added so much. Why don't you search out a server where there are actualy good people playing insted of the usual childish kids running around who complain when someone kills them. Because thats where most of the complaints come from about the shield. The little pesky brats who have no respect, no mannors and don't know their head form their ass. And unfortanatly more then 50% of the Counter-Strike community is made up of them.



I would hope the shield stays. Because if the shield goes, IMO I would love to see the AWP go. Because Smurf...there are still so many people complaining about it, it's not even funny. And yes most of the people who complain about the AWP are most likly the childish little 12 year olds. But if 12 year olds cause the shield to be removed, I better see 12 year olds causing the AWP to be removed.

After all, it's only fair. Take the shield away which is the counter to the AWP, you best take the AWP away.

[Daesh]

Nor trying to flame here.



But CS is realism based? So if I go outside and jump off a building and land in water I'll be fine :P



I agree with being knocked back that would be kinda cool and make sense. I don't agree with the 50% penetration damage. If you use that then there's a lot less point to using the shield and Valve goes to a lot of effort for nothing