CS 1.6: Various other improvements

[Thortok2000]

I agree with MikeJ on this one.



The huge bottleneck is the main problem here but even if you do assault the guy sniping from B balcony, there's at least 2-3 other spots an awper could be, including the double-doors.

[Gpig]

MikeJ wrote..

Here is my idea:



The problem at bombsite B right now is there are 2 sniper nest opposite of each other, and not even aztec has it that bad. The sniper up in the balcony behind B and a sniper in the middle connector can really reek havoc while a rifle somewhere in between plays the bait and cleans up what the snipers miss.



I think an easy solution would be to simply remove the sniper balcony behind the bombsite B. It would still be possible to snipe the T entrance from the bombsite itself, but now a few well placed smokes and flashes can let the Ts get a better grip on taking the site.

That's...actually a good idea.

[Smurfzilla]

so dave, why is it even de_cbble anyways instead of de_cobble?

[David Johnston]

I'm not a fan of removing the balcony - I'd far prefer just to revert the spawn positions to where they were before. I'd already changed that area in the last Cobble update to make it less sniper prone. The hallway juts out more than it did in 1.5.



That said, I'll consider it an option. I'm never a fan of changing architecture much if the same objective can be achieved passively. Especially given how old Cobble is. I'd just like to leave it alone :)

Smurfzilla wrote..

so dave, why is it even de_cbble anyways instead of de_cobble?

Because when I made the map, the editing tools kept taking de_cobble.rmf, creating DE_COB~1.bsp and I got annoyed, so I removed the 'o'. Simple as that. Hence my later release 'Cobble'-stylee release, cs_cstle.

[david_mas]

wow its David Johnston,he know what hes talking about...



I think the changes in de_cbble promote faster gameplay and are more "noob" friendly, who asked them to change the map anyways.



And in de_nuke there are just "noobing" the map was fine except for the floating box... for vets like me it just makes the game too easy.

[gene4ace]

Just take away the shield and the awp changes and maybe re-add b-hoping and EVERYONE whoud be happy and even people who stoped playing will come back



ps add more cl_ cmds like hsicon...

[hyrax]

all you "PUB" pros with all your comments. Counter-Strike isn't a solo game about having the best score in game/pub. It's a team based game, as most KNOWLEGABLE cs players know that in WARS you CANNOT boost plant, so shut up about that winging on cbble and all these guys that are commenting. stop winging and get used to it because change back to former self is most doubtful.

[LnD | Gambit]

You can still silent bomb plant it at CT spawn on cbble. There is one more spot to put it in. You took out the boosting spot at bomb site B. Which I don't understand, that was the advantage the Ts had of that map. I don't understand brighting up the map either. It make it pointless to use nightvision now. If you take out the boost spot out of cbble. You might as well take it out of dust too. You might as well brighten up all maps that have darks spots like train, dust2(CT spawn and hallway to B), dust(hallway), and the inside of nuke. That includes the downstairs part. Take way all the advantages we had of the map. Make it more of a level playing field for new comers to the game. That just ridiculous!



I don't mind the new icon. I don't understand why people are making a big deal about it. I love how as you spectate someone now you can see if they get flash or not. Great idea! Now you can watch to see is if people have flash block hacks. I love that. The crosshairs I just love my old 1 to much to let go. The AWP/Scout delay I hate it. I'm not a awp whore thou I'm exceptionally good with it. I also can shoot the AK/M4A1 really good to. After 5 years you really get good with the awp and it's quickswitch. I understand what you did to it. You really just made it so people can't rush and go kill crazy with it, but now it's either gonna make them camp alot or just switch over to the auto-sniper. Which in my opinion the auto-sinper need some work. It's way to much accurate. I seen people jump in mid air and still kills with it.



I think you should fix other bugs before start messing with the weapons. Like the bug when you shoot at from the right or left side of them. It looks like they're shooting straight but really they're aiming at you. That bug pisses me off the most.

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hyrax wrote..

all you "PUB" pros with all your comments. Counter-Strike isn't a solo game about having the best score in game/pub. It's a team based game, as most KNOWLEGABLE cs players know that in WARS you CANNOT boost plant, so shut up about that winging on cbble and all these guys that are commenting. stop winging and get used to it because change back to former self is most doubtful.

If you want realism. Then go play Rainbow Six or Ghost Recon quit trying to base CS on realism. It's pathetic and a desperate attempt to take up for the new update.

[F13ND]

WOW ive been playing 1.3 and holy crap it is fun... now i remember why i started playing and kept playing. Theres a lot of leagues that are starting 1.3 and its gonna be nice. Lots of good cal i clans will be in these and its gonna be great.



So i think 1.6 might lose a lot of business unless they fix the crap they screwed up. Anyway theres no need for that "pro mode" anymore when you can just play 1.3. So you kids who have fun ruining the game with all of your whining about awps and such... have fun.

[QuickDraw]

shit man, someone tell me where to dl the 1.3!!

[KhAoS]

hyrax wrote..

all you "PUB" pros with all your comments. Counter-Strike isn't a solo game about having the best score in game/pub. It's a team based game, as most KNOWLEGABLE cs players know that in WARS you CANNOT boost plant, so shut up about that winging on cbble and all these guys that are commenting. stop winging and get used to it because change back to former self is most doubtful.

Umm, try playing in CAL and CPL the two most profesional and popular leagues in CS. They allow boost planting.

[Mad Dog McKill]

I am copying my post from steam forums:



ok let me tell you people something about the new crosshairs



(sorry if am repeating someone's idea.. didn't bother to read all 3 pages of this topic)



why can't anyone here think the other way round??



They should have made the 640x480 crosshair SMALLER!



NOT all other ones bigger...



and can someone tell me why is the crossahair staying the same when running or standing? what does this supposed to mean? a cs revert back to 1.3 ? Wasn't the crossahair supposed to get smaller since you become more stable when standing?



one last thing. Why do diferent guns have different crosshair? I see AK having a smaller crosshair than usp.. Is AK really more accurate than Usp? so besides making 25 dmg a shot, ak now has a smaller crosshair compared to usp or even M4A1? hmm.. I am not sure about playing cs now with all these cool

"improvements"...



P.S. who wants to start a petition at petitiononline.com to show valve that many people are unhappy and that valve should change back the crosshairs?



P.P.S. wah someone started a give us back the awp petition already.. lets start the crosshair one too

[David Johnston]

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Mad Dog McKill wrote..

and can someone tell me why is the crossahair staying the same when running or standing? what does this supposed to mean? a cs revert back to 1.3 ? Wasn't the crossahair supposed to get smaller since you become more stable when standing?

I was playing CS last night and the crosshair changed size between running and standing. It was smaller standing, as it should be.

one last thing. Why do diferent guns have different crosshair? I see AK having a smaller crosshair than usp.. Is AK really more accurate than Usp? so besides making 25 dmg a shot, ak now has a smaller crosshair compared to usp or even M4A1? hmm.. I am not sure about playing cs now with all these cool

"improvements"...

The first shot of the AK is more accurate than the USP. The second and third shots of the AK are about the same as the USP, and any shots fired after that are about as accurate as most of the posts in the steampowered forums.

[T|2i|34L]

F13ND wrote..

WOW ive been playing 1.3 and holy crap it is fun... now i remember why i started playing and kept playing. Theres a lot of leagues that are starting 1.3 and its gonna be nice. Lots of good cal i clans will be in these and its gonna be great.



So i think 1.6 might lose a lot of business unless they fix the crap they screwed up. Anyway theres no need for that "pro mode" anymore when you can just play 1.3. So you kids who have fun ruining the game with all of your whining about awps and such... have fun.

YEAH - It will be awesome right up until Valve shuts down the WON network.

[HowlinMadMurphy]

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David Johnston wrote..

The second and third shots of the AK are about the same as the USP, and any shots fired after that are about as accurate as most of the posts in the steampowered forums.

Ha ha! Thanks for the laugh, Mister.

T|2i|34L wrote..

YEAH - It will be awesome right up until Valve shuts down the WON network.

1.3 is now a working third-party mod through Steam. I actually submitted a news item here for it, but they haven't posted any news in a couple of days. I lost the damn link to the dowload though. Maybe somebody else here can give it to you if you want it. There are lots of servers up already, although hacking is rampant.