if valve wants to keep things good for casual ppl then it needs to create a new system for league play maybe even a new mod say csl just to fix money and timer for league but leave the pubs the way they r. pubs r still fun bc ppl in them try to make it exciting thats what theyr for if pubs die then so does the interest in cs and the leagues if the config is not changed then the leagues will die too its a balance between getting specs through pubs bc of the fast play and then keeping them by preventing the pros from exploiting the game when its not a problem in public play i am all in favor for these changes IF they r only used where needed and do not overide the rest of the game
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It's about damn time they make a change to the money system. I hate when an AWPer gets killed for several straight rounds and can still afford the damn cannon. Big guns are expensive, people should have to work to get them. And the game would get a little more interesting if people actually used some guns that are (gasp) NOT the m4/ak.Comment
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Honestly, I think that you guys need to stop making such a big deal out of changes like this. They are honestly trying to speed up the gameplay, as 1.6 slowed it down even more. They want there to be rushes on 2nd-3rd round, not just sitting for 3-6 minutes on your ass, which is stupid and boring, but must be done if your in a match.
Not only that, but I think it could help pub gameplay a bit since about 50% of the people joining don't even get to play pistol (thx steam) and so when they join their stuck with saving for 2 rounds and dieing, hiding, lala. Boring. Yes, CS is getting boring. He's right. But it seems that valve is realizing more and more that for christs sakes they should of kept 1.3 a while ago, and just made it the way it is now but 1.3.
I don't think they need jumping back, but probably faster walking or movements along with changing some of the BS recoil in the game. I've been playing in leagues for years, and its gotten slow and inconsistent.
I don't know about you guys but the game is still (if not more) brutally inaccurate. Watch any CAL-i guys or CPL demos and you'll notice they basically just hold down trigger aiming at their head. While back at my house, if I do that my bullets are practically in the sky. So why are more and more people having to have Radeon 9800's and P4 3.2's with a gig of ram just to play the freaking game? I've wanted to quit the game so many times sincerely because of that, Half-Life still uses like 100k of ram, which is freaking ridiculous compared to every other game out today.
Make the netcode actually accurate, fix the default config, make crap-low-medium-high-leet settings so you don't have to read 20 pages on 5 different websites about HL netcode just so when you put your crosshair on the guy it hits their face. Fix the things mentioned here (money/C4) and raise the speed of the game. The reason all the "pro" gamers want the faster gameplay is because it simply takes more individual skill. The way CS today is every freaking player CAL-m and above could all be the best, its just all random and the strats happen destroy their type of play. Not saying that the best aren't the best for a reason, but its turned into the person who loses is the one that makes a mistakes. Every player looks exactly the same playing, plays with the same style, does the same strats, just a messed up round and you lose 13-11.
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Oh not to post to much here, but here's a perspective on bunnyhopping. I'm not sure if it should be or not but maybe this will help.
In TFC (Team Fortress Classic) bunny hopping is apart of the game, and any skilled player knows how to do it (bind mwheeldown +jump if you are interested). The rules are much more lax and the community is very nice. Bunny hopping is a skill that you learn, and you learn it because its just a part of the skill required for the game. It speeds up the gameplay doubletime as well.
The interesting thing is that the competition is still insane, even though it definitely has less players then CS. I quit CS when 1.6 came out and started playing TFC. About a month ago I started just playing both CS and TFC, and I am confident in saying TFC takes just a lot more personal skill then CS. Now that's hard for me to say because I've been playing CS for 3-4 years now, but the skill CS takes is this extreme learning curve, the game is a test of knowledge of the game that just takes endless time to learn, not really personal skill, reflexes, and aim. I hope that if the game is sped up a bit that that might come into play though, but I don't think bunnyhopping will ever go back to CS, and I don't think it should, but honestly theres are a 100 other ways to speed up the game.Comment
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The reason bunnyhopping is acceptable in TFC is because it's a whole different and IMHO more childlike game, it's full of these silly things like jumping on your bazooka and engineers that hit stuff with a spanner, not that I don't like hitting stuff with my spanner..
Anyways, you could name a thousand platformgame-like elements in TFC, it's just not what CS is or should be I think we all agree.
Besides all that, if anybody was that mad you could just double the forward speed in CS, voila, faster game.
If you don't like the part of CS that makes it CS there are other games, keep the changes within the concept I'd say, and if in doubt - ask gooseman :)
BTW, I experience 1.6 as being faster than 1.5 (on pubs) because you die faster due to the weapon tweaks, so round are over sooner.Comment
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wow.....its gonna change everything...and every strat there is to the game.......
wow i don't think i can comprehend it!!!Comment
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ShaGuar was right about the professional mod for CS. I think they should make a sv_matchmode 0/1 or something like that.Comment
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Hey JUMPING WITH THE BAZOOKA should be cool in Cs ..... hum .... OK .... forget it ... Anyway, will we still have to stand these gun-round with the new system of money ?????Comment
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I think CS needs to go back to it's roots. I mean come on, the game's had it. How long have we been playing it now??? A long time (apart from the n00bs of course). We've been pying it for years now and it is old and stale. Although some of you will say the jumping and old physics are lame, i disagree. It was much more fun back then, and any true CS player will aggree. You people who say the jumping introduced to 1.4 was a good change definately started playing the game around the time it was released, or you sucked at the first few retail versions(1.1, 1.3 etc) which of course allowed you to jump without any slow down so whatever, allowed you to jump round corners and suprise your enemy, the game was much faster paced and more adrenaline based. I still like CS but is never fun as it used to be. I'm sorry, that exitement just isn't there no more. Valve should release a seperate mod entitled CS-Classic, hey wait, thats already been released. Well valve should make there own version. Valve, I'm sorry, buy you are gay lol. You can not release a game on time (never) and you make up stories that your game was leaked so you have an excuse to push the release date back any further. You basically steal the custom created mod Counter-Strike from Sir Gooseman and Cliffe. Change it for the worse (thinking that you are changing it for the better) and basically just fuck up. Why are you so great Valve? You've only created 1 game really and that's Half-Life. If it wasn't for Gooseman and Cliffe you wouldnt have Counter-Strike under your name. Sort your company out.
Hehe, This is the bit where I tell you i am a pro cs player. This means that valve will listen to me and make all the requested changes above. Thankyou Valve, I love you, keep listening to ure pro cs player thankyou (not)Comment
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actually i like it im getting a bit bored and now theres something interesting to do nowComment
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The timer shutoff during bomb plants? What happened?Comment
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CS is far from being realistic. You think in real life the AK, M4, or the AWP can penetrate those thick stone walls on Aztec. I highly doubt it, but I still get kill by those weapons through them. Cs has other flaws like that they need to work out before going through what they're planning on doing here. It really doesn't bother me what they're trying to accomplish by doing this. I just hate when people try to compare this game to real life combat action. It's way far from it.Comment
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they should make it in lvls lvl 1 you ge pistols.... lvl 2 smgs..... lvl 3 shot guns..... lvl 4 galie/famas.....lvl 5......m4/ak/scout...........lvl 6 auto sniper.........lvl 7 awp (25 kills to get this) heheComment
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