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  • MaRLi

    #61
    Let me set all your minds straight.



    That CS:CZ movie really sucks. In fact, it looks EXACTLY like Half Life. OK, the movie is low quality, but heck it's more than good enough to be able to judgje the graphics and the gameplay anyway. I'm disappointed. The character animations blow big time... except for that one headshot when the dude falls on the floor rolling in the air. That was like the highlight of the whole footage. And I don't know if anyone noticed... but if I'm right that's really sad - or just due to a crappy comp it was played on (which I doubt, since, you wouldn't want footage taken of a game that's being played on a shit system obviously). To the point: When the player enters the elevator, pay attention to the elevator's button board... I'm either really wrong or I need glasses. Did I see reaaaaaalllllllyyy crappy BILINEAR FILTERING THERE? I mean heck, that reminds me of Counter-Strike 1.5 directly.

    I'm gonna watch it again and post a second opinion.

    Who's saying level design is awesome?? What the #@$*(&^? It's absolutely nothing out of the ordinary... that's HL style level design!



    Let me watch a second time.

    orphy wrote..

    You sir, are the biggest moron on earth. Since the FUCK when is a controller pad better than a keyboard and mouse for FPS games? When I first started playing FPS games on the consoles, it took me a while to get used to. PC FPS games took no time. And what multiplatform games are better on console than they are on PC? All the Unreal games are better on the PC, and I bet Halo PC will kick Halo's ass. Shut up.



    By the way, I do own both a PS2 and XBox, so I know what I am talking about.
    You are my hero!



    Except for the aggressive style... (I mean why call people idiots and dicks right away when they post what they think?) I completely agree. I couldn't believe this one guy posting FPS actually suck on PC and that they're always better on consoles... WTF??? I've never heard a weirder thing since I know what gaming is...

    appended @ [time="1062391544"]

    *Vamp* wrote..

    Sorry, but console FPS games are better then their PC-based counter-parts. Mostly due to the pad. Sure, you may find a keyboard and mouse easier. I definatly don't. Using a mouse isn't so bad, but the keyboard...... urgh. It's too unprecise, unlike analog sticks or even the ancient d-pad. And pads are more comfortable to use, using a keyboard is a pain in that respect. And pads are the best thing to have for FPS games. Left analog stick on forward/backward/lookright+left and right stick for lookup+down/strafe, then use shoulder buttons as fire, and the other buttons for the other random tasks..... much better then any keyboard, particually the PS2 pad (I like the XBox pad, don't get me wrong, and I think it's a perfect size, but the shoulder buttons on it suck).



    As for your comment Relica..... pure bollocks. Pads are much easier to sue then keyboard/mouse. Anyone who can't use a pad properly is a remedial. You just hold it in ya hands and press the buttons... not hard. Keyboards on the other hand, you gotta span your hand right out sometimes (depending on the complexity of the controls obviously), which is just plan hard for people with small hands (like me).



    And actually, I do agree with Orphy on one point: the Unreal games are better on PC. It has to be said, they did a crap conversion of the Unreal series to console - in theory it should have been fine, but they cocked it up big-time. And it wouldn't be hard for PC Halo to be better then XBox Halo - it sucked ass anyway tbh. All the PC version has to do to be better is to add a few more guns and already it'd be far greater then the XBox version (the lack of guns+ the shite controls for Halo make it one of the worst games I've ever played tbh)



    As for which multi-platform games are better on console then PC...

    1) Final Fantasy VIII (and come to think of it, 7 and 9 were better on console then PC, and that's saying something - the console versions sucked ass, but the PC versions were simply diabolical)



    2) Grand Theft Auto: Vice City (and in fact, all of the GTA game are beter on console)



    3) 007 Nightfire (shockingly bad on PC, amazingly good on PS2. I haven't yet played the GameCube or XBox versions)



    4) The Thing (do'nt even touch the PC version)



    5) Resident Evil (you name it, it was better on console. The Nemisis in 3 was impossible to beat on the PC version due to the keyboard not being precise enough as the analog sticks)



    6) Tony Hawks Pro Skater 2 (dear lord the PC version was bad. PSX version wasn't great sure, but the PC version....urgh)



    Well that's six...... I'm sure given the time I could think of more, but it's 4:18 here (and I'm abit monging right now to tell the truth, could do with a shower) and I'm very tired.



    As already mentioned, 'fighting games' (more correctly called Beat 'Em Ups) are better on console, though that goes without saying. Same applies for racing games. Sports games arn't better on console - or rather, they are, but they still suck on the whole.



    Anyone who says pads/consoles are worse for FPS games then PC/mouse+keyboard, is either a remedial, plain arrogant, gormless or maybe they've just never actually given any console FPS game the time of day so they don't know what they're on about thus they just side with the one they know better. Anyone who's played TimeSplitters2, Red Faction 2, 007 Nightfire etc on console (particually PS2) will know how good console FPS games are (and I'm sure CSX will be no exception) - and remember, even if you hate the pad, there's no excuse with PS2, that takes mouse and keyboard aswell :p
    What the fuck... dude, you either have a really crappy computer and even crappier periphery devices... or you simply don't know FPS games. How the hell can you claim that FPSes are played better with PADS? With a mouse you can aim a billion times faster, more precisely, and when you move the mouse, your sight stays in place rather than you having to hold that analog stick because if you let go.. it will center the screen again. And if it stays try centering it as fast as with a mouse... that's again head to head with the other weirdest thing I've ever heard. It's the same, actually.

    Also, did you notice that in the list of games you mentioned you didn't have a single FPS game??

    Kinda stupid.

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    • orphy

      #62
      MaRLi wrote..

      You are my hero!



      Except for the aggressive style... (I mean why call people idiots and dicks right away when they post what they think?) I completely agree. I couldn't believe this one guy posting FPS actually suck on PC and that they're always better on consoles... WTF??? I've never heard a weirder thing since I know what gaming is...
      I'm just an aggressive person, most of the time. I mean well, but I like running my mouth. It's just what I do. You either love it or hate it, right?

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      • MaRLi

        #63
        OK.



        Version 1.1 of my last post.



        The game doesn't look all that bad. The movie isn't really shaky either, have no idea why they put shaky in its title. Anyway, there's a new highlight to the footage... which is when that body comes flying around the corner and hits the wall on the floor along with some weird black little something... (someone tell me what that's supposed to be?)

        The AI definitely seems awkward. Character animations are pretty good except when your teammate runs ahead of you it looks like shit. And that dude banging that closed grate... obviously scripted, looks really shitty. The character model of that guy with the helmet helping some other character on the floor is really good IMHO. I liked the way the eye protection part of the helmet looked.

        All in all, there's still a lot left to work on with this game.

        orphy wrote..

        I'm just an aggressive person, most of the time. I mean well, but I like running my mouth. It's just what I do. You either love it or hate it, right?
        Sure! Never said I wanna "change" you or tell you how you're supposed to behave or how you have to be :). The difference between all of us makes everything interesting. If you're happy with yourself, stay that way!

        FPS better on console than on PC... I can't believe I read that tonight? Someone tell me I'm dreaming... damn no, I'll realize I'm having the worst of all dreams!

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        • MikeJ

          #64
          I'm not going to go into a long winded rant cause I'm too tired and lazy but I'm just gonna say that CS:CZ was doomed to fail from the beginning. Taking a game that's legacy is based on its simplicity and speed in multiplayer gaming and trying to turn it in to a single player game while maintaining the feel is a very difficult task to do. Gearbox had a very interesting approach that i guess was good in theory but failed in practice and valve canned it. now ritual is pressed to throw out a game in very little time using generic first person shooter action and it's not going to fulfill what we have been waiting for. Especially with how outdated the engine has become. At least most games look good. Dats all I gotta say

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          • Gameshot911

            #65
            WHat is everyones deal with scripted scenes? Personally i feel they add a very nice touch to games. Of course you dont want to be pushed along a pre-determined sequence, but as background fillers sequences are perfect. Without them developers *couldnt* force something to happen (yes anything is possible), someting that might add very nicely to the mood. And sometimes they just plain rock.

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            • phrzn

              #66
              This newspost was about CS:CZ and not about consoles in any way. Wow you guys are AWESOME!!!!!!~!~12`123`2`12323oz`129`1~@~!@~!@#!1

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              • MaRLi

                #67
                Phr0z3n wrote..

                This newspost was about CS:CZ and not about consoles in any way. Wow you guys are AWESOME!!!!!!~!~12`123`2`12323oz`129`1~@~!@~!@#!1
                WTF.



                I know that. Some guy claimed FPS on consoles are better than on PC and it started a discussion. What's so bad about that?

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                • phrzn

                  #68
                  MaRLi wrote..

                  I know that. Some guy claimed FPS on consoles are better than on PC and it started a discussion. What's so bad about that?
                  do not
                    » mention being the "first post." Or the "second post." it's an automatic ban.

                    » demand credit for a news item that you submitted. you probably weren't the only one, ace.

                    » post porn links without a clear warning.

                    » post anything hinting at or encouraging warez. use common sense here.

                    » post off-topic. no one cares about your broken ankle when we're talking about the cs for the xbox.

                    » mindlessly flame someone for no reason.

                    » troll esports, xbox, or other cs-related items. you're not here to define which type of community is the best.

                    » advertise an irrelevant service or site. go here.

                    » leech bandwidth by using third-party images.



                    Understand now?

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                  • MaRLi

                    #69
                    Phr0z3n wrote..

                    do not
                      » mention being the "first post." Or the "second post." it's an automatic ban.

                      » demand credit for a news item that you submitted. you probably weren't the only one, ace.

                      » post porn links without a clear warning.

                      » post anything hinting at or encouraging warez. use common sense here.

                      » post off-topic. no one cares about your broken ankle when we're talking about the cs for the xbox.

                      » mindlessly flame someone for no reason.

                      » troll esports, xbox, or other cs-related items. you're not here to define which type of community is the best.

                      » advertise an irrelevant service or site. go here.

                      » leech bandwidth by using third-party images.



                      Understand now?
                    Alright alright. I don't know, I mean sometimes you have to integrate things in a discussion that are not directly related to it but still make sense when they are talked about in context. I think that rule is too harsh but that's me.

                    Won't say anything more.

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                    • Diamond Dust

                      #70
                      2) Grand Theft Auto: Vice City (and in fact, all of the GTA game are beter on console)
                      lol how is any gta game better on a console? Lets see gta, gta london, gta2, gta3, and gta vice city. I can't think of 1 thing that was better on the console for all of those games. You strike a nerve with me there because I am a modder and gta has been the best game to mod. The only reason I bought them for console was because they came out 5 months before the pc version. As for your talk about console controllers being better then mouse and keyboard, thats just insane. I'd love for you to get a ps2 controller adapter for pc, and play cs with it.

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                      • vARULF!!

                        #71

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                        • MaRLi

                          #72
                          Diamond Dust wrote..

                          lol how is any gta game better on a console? Lets see gta, gta london, gta2, gta3, and gta vice city. I can't think of 1 thing that was better on the console for all of those games. You strike a nerve with me there because I am a modder and gta has been the best game to mod. The only reason I bought them for console was because they came out 5 months before the pc version. As for your talk about console controllers being better then mouse and keyboard, thats just insane. I'd love for you to get a ps2 controller adapter for pc, and play cs with it.
                          I just agree.

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                          • Registered

                            #73
                            FPS should be played with a mouse/keyboard

                            and vice city is great on computer since it can be modded and even played online by a mod.

                            also beat em ups are the best in arcades.

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                            • -:Nighthawk:-

                              #74
                              Shut your damn mouths about consoles already, sheesh.



                              About CS:CZ, though... well, honestly, who didn't see this coming? Yes, ever since that fateful day of December 6, 2002, when we all found out that Gearbox got canned, well... Let's just say the more intelligent bunch wasn't holding out too much hope.



                              Still, I'll be curious to read reviews of the final game, I suppose.

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