System Interview

[Jsunu]

I really dont care.....



As a fellow cheater i dont really see the point why people get all pissed? isnt it a waste of energy?

[garry]

/big big balls

[The Who?]

voodoomedicine wrote..

QUOTE "This guy is a fucking jack-off".Did'nt say anything to you(sMee)!!He's a cheater,plain and simple!!!!!!Get off my back!!I don't need your pity!If you feel so strongly about this issue,and want to side with him,go back to single player Half-Life and cheat there!!!!!!!No one will care!!!

I don't in any way support cheating, i just think its sad when people get so angry about it; after all, its just a game. A 1337 Hax0|2 shooting you through the wall shouldn't ruin your day. If it does, I'm sorry, get involved in a sport or something. I pity you because your sentence structuring, grammar, tone, exessive use of exclamation marks and beliefs are so stupid I couldn't help but laugh. Please do anything in your power to refrain from responding to this post so i do not have to waste another 2 minutes with your incompetence.

[quxex1hi]

rizzuh wrote..

Clearly System and Albert Einstein are the same. One linked the properties of physics to relative motion, the other made a cheat. Nice work, DocUK.

"rizzuh", I was explaining how you cannot judge someone's intelligence or personality by their humorous actions. It would be as wrong to call System an idiot because he says "moo" as deeming Einstein unintelligent because he comically stuck his tongue out.

[oneTouchable*]

im totally w/ smee here, just remember that OCG is gonna lose in the end and btw have a LITTLE faith in valve they know what to do. yea hax are only for the insecure little pple who cant stand to lose to other random anonymous pple in something that means absolutely nothing in the end. so justkeep thinking of the fact by them using OGC u are already the better man

[socks]

garrynewman helps system h4x, he told me

[Lethal]

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CSObserver wrote..

What I see is a lot of rationalization on the part of those "defending" - what I percieve as defending - Someone like System.



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Clarifying: I myself was arguing that the general perception of people who create hacks are all evil and bent on ruining the experience of an entire game. Not always true. In this and many many many other cases, it is.



Its was clear to me from the start that there is something wrong with this boy, that he feels he needs to get his power (fun) from ruining other peoples sense of enjoyment. Whether he wants to admit or not, in the long run, thats what its doing.



I truely hate to say it, but with experiences in the past, people like this don't change, they may or may not mature, which possibly could 'move on.' But at 17? Its hard to say. Some people mature at different levels. I have considered myself mature for quite some time, and I'm meerly a year older than he. Yet I have seen it just the other way around. It truely depends on the person alone.



The biggest reason I am focusing on maturity is simple. When people mature, they realize that the world does not revolve around them. They can't do whatever they want, whenever they want, for whatever reason they want, they learn that there are consequinces and reprocussions for their actions, and actions such as this, generally get negative reprocussions.



I do hate to say this, but in actuality, there ARE a lot of cheaters out there. (I truely despise using the word 'hacking' as it used to be, hacking took skill. Cheating requires someone to run a simple program and other simple things.) And while there are cheaters, he WILL have their support, which does give him power.



Interviews such as this only give him further recognition among such groups, and also pisses off those who strongly disagree with what he is doing / his beliefs.



This is a very large 'warning sign' of Attention Deficiet-Hyperactivity Disorder (ADHD). Getting attention any way possible, and 100% of the time, doing 'bad things' get you a lot more attention. So YES, girls and boys, this fruit loop IS fucked in the head.



Q: Will you ever move on from CS to another, bigger game?

A: Yes, only if it is bigger.



As I said, he's only in it for the fame, for the power, for the false sense of security and self-respect.



If you truely want this pathetic worm to leave the CS scene, you can only hope that some game developer comes out with one hell of a game.

socks rants...

garrynewman helps system h4x, he told me

Thats nice. Go play in the sandbox now with little Billy, and don't throw sand. And remember, try not to tattle-tell anymore.

[Ice Cold]

Personally I don't have a problem with people that cheat openly... if someone is in a server blantly cheating, and they admit it... thats fine with me. To each his own... if you enjoy the game more while cheating, then good for you... but what I DO have a problem with is the people that cheat and try to hide it... because most of the time you have no way of knowing for sure... and you dont want to start accusing if you cant prove anything. So what does a person do in this position? Its rather aggrivating if its in a match/scrim. So what i got from this interview(i'm assuming some of the things he said came out a little harsher then intended; because of his poor english skills) is that System only cheats for fun in pub... ok thats alright... but then releasing it and takign no responsibility for the damage done...



"e g" I should get Systems address... get a friend to post it on a widely visited site... maybe do a little advertising to all the anti-cheaters... BUT OF COURSE I will hold NO responsibility for this action... because hey I'm just doing it solely for my own pleasure... I mean if his face gets beat in... thats not my fault... right?



oh but its only a game... its all ok then... but ill never figure out why waste so much time if your so apathetic to it.



btw I know the perfect anti-cheat method... make it illegal by law... if caught cheating you will be arrested and sentenced to a reasonable term... can't argue with that :|

[Firelord]

why the hell is this even posted as news on CS-nation?!? what a waste giving cheaters attention. everyone knoes there losers and we dont need even more interviews that reinforce that.

[mouth]

CSObserver wrote..

MikeJ...



Just wanted to add that I agree wholeheartedly.



It's time for adults to start calling the shots and saying, "enough is enough. You (System and those like him) are WRONG."

And then you can step up proudly and say:

"...i'm right because...i'm an....adult. I've had more time to practice being stupid than you have! I claim seniority on those grounds!"



The adults can stand in line behind the competent people, just like everyone else does. Your self-righteousness is showing. Might want to zip that up.

[Jsunu]

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bla the cheaters dont care

[Lethal]

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The Village Idiot wrote..

Lethal, you seem to think you're a lot smarter than you really are. First of all, comparing guns to cheats is way off base. A gun's primary purpose is/should be for defence/deterence or for sport. A cheat is to just let the cheater have a little more fun at other people's expense. There is no good purpose for cheats. System created OGC and obviously has some real personal issues to work out if he doesn't care how many "random internet people" he hurts and doesn't hurt his friends. Many have asked here, "have you ever me System?" But the real question is, has system ever met any of these other people?



Secondly, to Lethal again, have garrynewman was just joking and it went right over your head. Thirdly and finally, there's no way in heck that you could think of a few ways that you could circumvent current anti-cheat measures that someone else hasn't already tried and found failure. But you just keep thinking that you can do that, it's obviously how you make it through life.

I never said: "I thought of these methods all by my self and I wont share them so nyah!"



Try not to read too much into that one.



I don't think of myself as some "leet hax0r" because I know how to 'hide' a file. As I said, most if it is basic computer knowledge (at least in my opinion, basic.)



If comparing guns and cheats is 'way off base' then I guess we should outlaw all guns (US)?



"Guns" wouldn't be needed for protection if "Guns" wern't in existance anyways. Think about it.



If the guy wants to create cheats, good for him, he doesn't have to distribute them. And when they ARE distributed, morons seem to get their hands on them, and abuse them.



I was trying to defer everyone from hating him. They are directing their anger at the wrong people, they need to direct it at those who abuse cheats.



If he didn't make the cheat, someone else would have, or XQZ2 would be the best thing. So either way, the cheats are there, he didn't exactly revolutionize the whole industry of cheating.



As for "random internet people" is concerned, I agree, it is shameful that one has to stoop to such levels to get his jolly's, especially when it has such a huge impact on the game as a whole. BUT, do not forget this IS the internet, there IS a life outside that little box sitting on that desk you're at. Don't let this chump get your panties in a twist.



As for garry, he has a very poor sense of humor, which mainy is composed of spam and ignorant requests / questions, or flames. Why not read some of his other annoying posts to see for yourself?



My personal views on cheating, people, and the world in general are my own, you may or may not share them, and in fact, I hope you don't share the exact same views as me. (Obviously you don't or you wouldn't have argued my post)



That does not make me wrong, or, as you put it, "not as intelligent as I think I is."



And thinking of 'ways to get around VAC' does not 'get me through life.'



You don't have to believe me, that doesn't make the truth go away, but don't criticize what you don't know and couldn't understand.

Ice Cold Wrote...

btw I know the perfect anti-cheat method... make it illegal by law... if caught cheating you will be arrested and sentenced to a reasonable term... can't argue with that :|

I like your opinions, you bring up some valid points on how he does not want to face the responsibility of his actions.



As for getting arrested, not possible.



It is NOT illegal to modify something on your own computer.



Software companies DO make it 'morally wrong' or 'breaking the EULA' by cheating, hacking, or reverse engineering their programs, etc.



IF the hacks were 'sold' it could be considered illegal, that is just one way to do it, but in the long run, it would be too costly for a company to pursue a lawsuit with a few people for distributing / creating hacks, and to no avail.



It would be even more costly to file lawsuits on each and every individual that cheats. You can't exactly sue them for "damages" unless you can prove that by their cheating they caused the company to lose profit, eg; someone buying the game, in which they [the court] must have written conscent from a number of people stating clearly in some way or another that they did not buy the game because of XXXX person for making YYYYY hack and ZZZZZ using it.

[leggeh]

man, cheating aint exactly a good thing, but tbh i think the anti cheat community has its head up its arse. You cant apply your moral guidelines to other peoples behaviour, thats just not how the world works :/



for instance, thats exactly what ive done in the above post, and no-one will agree with me, they'll just flame me because it makes them feel big. CS is a game, at the end of the day, it doesnt matter if there are cheats in it or not, u can still have fun playing with it. this whole war on cheats is as perverse as the world cup (referring to its "lets breed racism" effect)



football sux.

[oReiLLZ]

Someone said "he doesn't care about the random Internet people". (or around those lines; I'm to lazy to go find it) Most people in CS are like that, as far as I'm concerned. Just stop playing and watch the text people spit out for a minute: half of it is the word "fag", the other half is worse.



I'm not trying to say that disrespectful language and building a cheating program are even close to the same, but I think System is just that random Internet person (and that random Internet person's total lack of respect and care for anyone) to the power of ten.



Don't get me wrong, however. I've met some first-class guys in CS, but overwhelmingly, I'd have to say, the majority are as described above.

[Eagle25]

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leggeh wrote..

man, cheating aint exactly a good thing, but tbh i think the anti cheat community has its head up its arse. You cant apply your moral guidelines to other peoples behaviour, thats just not how the world works :/



for instance, thats exactly what ive done in the above post, and no-one will agree with me, they'll just flame me because it makes them feel big. CS is a game, at the end of the day, it doesnt matter if there are cheats in it or not, u can still have fun playing with it. this whole war on cheats is as perverse as the world cup (referring to its "lets breed racism" effect)



football sux.

this aint about imposing our moral values, its about making sure cs is a game witch is based on skill and tactics.....kinda......instead, your proposing that cs becomes a "who can make and/or download the best hack" game

think about it

did u ever have a great game with other great ppl and suddenly some hacker comes in and ruins evreyones game?

unless you are that hacker i think youll say it sucked.

this aint a question about who wants to be bigger then who, its just ppl that want cs to be a damn game without no goddam hackers period.