mailbag: CS 1.4

[Pr0d!gY]

awww, jumping and smoking the guy in the face with an M3 had been my greatest tactic in this game (basically how I got all my kills actually..). But now, its like..... all different. I went from 18:3 to 3:18! Its no fun anymore!

[rep]

Aren't pistols supposed to be more accurate than sub-machine guns?Also, if I wanted realism I would go to rogue spear.

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Thanks rizzuh, the dynamiccrosshair was messing me up, I can shoot again.

[Judas]

Pretty much everything in this new version is a positive. Although i do feel that 1 jump = totally slowed down is a tad far, because in real life, i'm SURE you could jump more then once and still be at full running pace. They should fix this imho.

Gun accuracies are fine, you can still move and shoot with smgs... you can still crouch and burst. I feel though that the AK is now slightly overpowered. It does the same damage yes, but because once crouched it will kill virtually 95% of the time when aimed at / close at an enemy. It is now much better then the "spray and pray" colt in most respects.

Just my 2 cents :)

[Unregistered]

really the jump thing is a good idea to stop bunny hoppers, but maybe tone it down a tad bit.

[SinaC]

rizzuh, have you seen HeatoN's 4k eco round? The last 2 head shots? No skill? Luck because of random recoil? erm... ok. Maybe I'm misunderstanding what you mean?

[GriffinMouse]

Baah! I`m really busy and tired and everything so just skipped half the mail and all the comments! [ sorry you guys.. ]

But i think they should have made the dynamic crosshair mandatory for everyone, or they should have not made it at all.

Don´t get me wrong, i love the dynamic aim, but it seem that being able to switch it ON or OFF creates to different camps of players.

Don´t know what I`m gettin to with all this but if anyone relates and has a better point then please post.

[Dj neema]

Dear Rizzuh,



I am a member of DuClaw, a leisurely CS clan that has been established since the beta versions of CS. Since beta, our clan has grown ten fold (32 members). We have mainly grown so large because CS is a very relaxed game that one can play without intense concentration. Our clan has suffered lately, because we have been VERY aggressive and strict on cheating. Other than that, we were perfectly fine with the version.



Now, CS developers have released an update, yes, it's called an update, for CS. I downloaded it expecting small tweaks since CS has left the Beta stage. Since installing and playing 1.4, I am apalled by what has been affected.



1) Mobility. Why is walking so slow? Stealth is worthless now. You don't have much of a chance if you're the last man standing. Real trained special forces units can move quickly and stealthily, like ninjas. These boys in CS walk slower than a marine can duck-walk. Jumping: If realism were the goal, then the jumping modification is the most un-realistic thing I have ever seen. True, if you jump ontop of a crate, you will be slowed down. But if you run and jump across a room, you continue with your forward momentum, you don't instantly get stuck! It's like you're longjumping into sand! What's with that?



2) The dynamic crosshairs scare the crap out of people. Is the aiming that much different? Have they made the guns innaccurate? Or is it just a reminder to crouch and shoot? This is going to affect alot of people, especially KSharp. Alot of people use the deagle as a trusty weapon to jump from a corner and aim for the head while in mid-air. Pop! Instant headshot. You can't do that anymore. KSharp once stated that was one of his favorite tactics when you interviewed him on the ~1.1 or 1.3 update.



3) If the developers changed the game so much, why not any new weapons? I'm tired of the same old arsenal.



The only real qualm I, and some of my clanmates, have is the DRAMATIC change in the mobility. I believe it doesn't do anything to IMPROVE the game. It just CHANGES the game. New tactics, new strategy, new this, new that. Honestly, I don't think I can sit back and play this game with the same enthusiasm I once had. That's what stinks about it. I'm not a serious gamer, and I bet you 80% of the players out there are not that serious about CS either. So what you'll see in terms of a response is a decline in players like me.



Please post on our website www.duclaw.org if you have anything to say about my comments.



Sincerely,



Dj neema[DuClaw]

[Shifty_Eyes]

For the first time in my life I saw 3 people in one round get rid of M4's for Ak's. The gun is just insane, if you fire 20 rounds at someone, you WILL headshot them. Its almost a given. It'd be great if one day CS emulated some form of reality and had where you aim have more than a partial bearing on where you hit.

[rizzuh]

Dj neema: 1) hopefully walking will be changed, 2) it simply shows the inaccuracies that have largely existed (new inaccuracies have been added for pistols, though), 3) CS 1.5.

[Inquistor]

Well I think since this version of CS you live much more because there aren't any bunnnyhoppers and stuff. So you can play much better. And I thought CS was a realistic game so what are you all whining????

And the new specator mode really rocks!!!!!!! And you can still shoot while runnning but less accurate



And Rizzuh Thanks for the mirrors and this great website

[Kram]

Lol ...



80% of you twats don't even read the last comments before you, try reading them before writing all that bs. (hint: Inquistor)



anyways, pistols should be altered a bit back, somewhere in the middle of the new guns and the olds .. I can live with the jump part, you can jump in a certain way to go quickly through windows etc .. the crosshair, you can change that back with "cl_dynamiccrosshair 0" ..



The walking speed is way to slow, its not to slow but its slow .. should be tweaket just a bit .. like neema said, if the game should be that much about realism, how come they move like snails, and make noise like a stampede



Of course all this written above is in my opinion.



And rizzuh, u s4x0r :P

[emilk]

OK what is it with everyone complaining about the accuracy of the colt??? Some1 even said it's now useless...

Well, Í think this is very strange since, after all, the colt hasn't been changed. That's right, it's the same as always, but there's always some1 thinking "wow, I didn't kill that guy with my COLT, they must have changed the accuracy!!!".

Every update I've experienced in my 2-year CS-flirt, there's always been a couple of people complaining about "how they've ruined the game" by changing the accuracy of the AK. That's funny, cuz they haven't change it since like 5.2...

[Snowblind]

with all due respect to Gooseman/Cliffe ... the jumping should not have been changed soo drastically ... the CD version(CS retail) is now totally different than the version you have to play online!

The new views are very fine ...a nice add-on!

but get things straight:

1)jumping sucks ... most maps are unplayable (cs_mansion?)

2)loss of accuracy while jumping ... sharpshooting/skill useless -->buy lottery ticket to get a kill ...same chance of hitting

3)not being able to walk/move while planting? no more elite bombplantings

4)...have to go eat now ...rest later



have fun! but most people i know stopped playing

[ShoNuff]

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I stated that i preffered 1.3 to 1.4............

NOT ANYMORE !!!

I changed the dynamic crosshair back [coz it was teh only thing i didnt like0r] and im back to my usual addictive 7 hour stints :) with no adjustment to my game. I use the walk key all the time, always have, and its no different.

Im just waiting on this new Valve anti-llama support to kick in and cs will truly be Teh Win!.



I downloaded the 1.4 update from a mirror on csn.

It was meant to be 24 megs but the file that was d/l to my hard drive was 15 megs, i wasnt very impressed and there was NO way i was going to exe it. Did anyone else get this or similar?

I had to get it elsewhere in the end.



edit- where as the walk speed is different, wat im saying is i find its not anymore unusable than it was.

[Snowblind]

4)walkspeed is too slow ...no more sneaking

5)HL related ...my PC doesn't want to shutdown normally after playing HL/CS -->have to manually reset PC or else 'blue screen of death' under Win98

6)increased lag

7)fixed hitboxes? yeah right ... put a model in profile and behind the model, behind the head and you'll hit the hitboxes even when you don't hit the model by far.

8)i cannot mute players and read the text they write .... i hate screaming bitches but i need to read text for in-game tactics

when i unmark voice radio ... go out of the menu ......go back in ... it's still turned on ...nasty bug

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realism? being unable to do 2 jumps in a row without slowing down ??? and in aztec take a plunge in the water from higher ground and move faster again than doing one single jump?