cs 1.4 preview

[CSN NewsBot]

I'm sure Valve is already regretting a semi-public beta. In the spirit of journalism, we're going to post the following preview/review from Venom, obviously a tester:

Had a chance to play with the 1.4 Beta, and it's got some pretty cool new additions so far. The bodies now STAY when shot for the duration of the round. Bunny hopping has been removed completly by causing a player to move really really slow when the jump continuously. At first every time you jump it made you slow/stagger for a sec, but Valve apparently has that fixed and will be upgrading it for us soon (not true, the fix was a laggy feeling. slow landing remains -rizzuh). Lastly, they have integrated the spec cam and 1st person view into the dead viewing options which is really cool, and have drastically FIXED the hitboxes to I'd say 95% accuracy now. (Still a small one by the head they are working on)



The new maps are pretty cool.



As for steam, it appears to be a central login system to play CS. We are still fooling with it, but i'm not sure if it's going to be soley to facilitate easy updates and anti-cheat additions, or if you wil lbe able to subscribe to play without acutally owning a copy installed on your system. (it will be free for those who own HL/CS -rizzuh)



I'll keep you posted if anything else makes an appearance, but so far, thats it. :)



-Venom

Thanks for the word, Venom. You can get more information about Counter-Strike 1.4 on our Next Version Info page. It's been updated with all the latest info.

[CSN NewsBot]

cs 1.4 preview

GamersX.net, a site that loses all possible respect because they disable right clicking, has "reviewed" CS 1.4 BETA. They didn't give it a score and reached little conclusions, so it's actually a preview. Here is a quote, because I am not new to the InterWeb and can actually press control+c:

The first thing you may notice when firing the weapons in 1.4b is the dynamic crosshair. Similar to the crosshair in DOD 2.0, the crosshair changes the more you are moving around. However, it's appearance and "recoil expansion" still looks like 1.3, and fortunately you can revert back to the 1.3 crosshair behavior by typing in "cl_dynamiccrosshair 0" in the console (You read it here!).



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One thing that I couldn't adjust to for awhile was the elimination of the "quick-switch" for the AWP. Don't get me wrong- the "Q" quick switch is still there; that's not what I'm referring to. What I'm referring to is AWP quick-switching. You know- fire a few rounds of your USP or Glock, followed by a high speed AWP shot that fires off before the rifle is positioned on-screen. In 1.4b, when you switch from pistol to AWP, you have to wait until the AWP is out FULLY before you can shoot. The scope also has a noticeable "pause" before zooming in.

It's actually a good write-up and the images are actually more recent. Check it out, but you better not use anything besides your mousewheel and mouse1!

[sumdood]

The more I think about this stuff, the more I think changing the jump or any movement physics is a bad thing. This game is by far and away the most popular fps online. No other game even comes close. Half the CS community could quit tomorrow and it would still be the most popular fps many times over. That tells me that people can't be too concerned with how the jumping works.



I thought patches/new releases were supposed to fix bugs , deal with cheating and bring out some new maps etc. Or maybe add a couple new weapons. Changing something like that is too profound of a difference. It is almost like bringing out a new mod.



I still say making the hostages work better, tone down the headshots and most of all find a way to kill cheating. Then you have a perfect game.



I bet a lot of players will abandon ship, if this jumping change is implemented.

[pr0fane]

Ok, have to comment on these new changes.



1st person chasecam; YAY! Easy to spot aimbot now



Anti-cheat; w00000h00000!



Fixed Hitboxes; wheeeee!



Stamina-shit; Ehm, what?



I've played CS since beta 2-3 and seen quite a few drastic changes. Some good, some bad ... taste differs.



But this is just to much - you've got the most popular fps in the world (by far) - clans are playing for record-high prizes - and now you wanna completely alter the gameplay?



I've played quite a few mods for Half-Life with this "realistic feel" (FireArms, DoD etc) and didn't like them at all. Sure they where more realistic - but fun? Not at all.



And I don't see such a big problem with BJ on the servers btw ... not that I like BJ - I just don't see people doing it anymore - so why ruin the game?

[pr0fane]

Ehm ... there was like 40 comments before?



Now there's 2 ... hmmm



GG CSNation ?

[rizzuh]

pr0fane wrote..

Ehm ... there was like 40 comments before?



Now there's 2 ... hmmm



GG CSNation ?

I don't know what happened..

[sumdood]

Edited by [user="2898"] @ [time="1011333518"]

pr0fane wrote...



1st person chasecam; YAY! Easy to spot aimbot now



Yea , its guy like you pr0fane that will make the game totally annoying by yelling "cheater cheater!!" everytime you see someone looking in the direction of where they hear footsteps...



And they are not talking about the bunnyhop where you could accelerate to inhuman speeds. They are simply talking about being able to jump over and over and still be able to get frags while doing it. They don't like the unrealism of being able to jump constantly throughout the map.



But I agree with you that they shouldn't change it. They are going to make this game a Medal of Honor clone.

[Kram]

Edited by [user="304"] @ [time="1011333234"]

mm .. I like this discussion :) ..



And I must say that I agree with Aibohphobia very good arguements, that if you bought the game, you should not expect changements like theese .. every beta have made some people quit CS, ppl have been joining and quitting CS since 5.1 (as far as I read/hear/see) .. but when CS made FINAL 1.0 <- It should be PERIOD of any changes at the gameplay! .. Fix bugs, fix cheats, fix hitboxes, fix netcode .. blahblah .. but altering the gameplay of a game completely? .. lol? I must really laugh .. If we want to bleed, having our limps shot off, etc. we would play Firearms, Global Warfare, Day Of Defeat, where there is stamina .. theese games fail .. !! - Day of defeat though is holding on to some .. but still far from CS ..



Why change what everyone likes? .. There will allways be whining/bitching about something, in EVERY game .. we ARENT all alike! .. we like different things etc ..



I beg you .. please dont ruin the game! .. its the best game ever, and it could easily be ruined by one false move

[Kram]

and sumdood .. plz? .. I play with pr0fane some times, he is absolute not a 'whiner' - Ive never seen him call anyone a cheater, nor whine ..



So plz .. stfu? .. les ignoramus ..

[rizzuh]

Kram wrote..

I beg you .. please dont ruin the game! .. its the best game ever, and it could easily be ruined by one false move

Oh please, if cheats don't kill Counter-Strike, nothing will for at least a while.



Jumping over and over is lame, deal with it.

[pr0fane]

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sumdood wrote..

Yea , its guy like you pr0fane that will make the game totally annoying by yelling "cheater cheater!!" everytime you see someone looking in the direction of where they hear footsteps...

Ehm, ok? I've been an admin on DK's 2nd biggest CS-site (and servers) for more than 6 months. Not to mention that I've played CS for more than 2 years - I do believe I know how to spot a cheater (yes, admins need to test aimbots + wallhack to see how they work).



Anyways - that's not the point. Glad that we agree on the BJ thingie.



I don't really care if it's realistic to jump around like a madman. You think I play it because it's realistic? - No - Because it's FUN!



Imagine that you go out in the open and a guy with AWP spot you. Now you have a chance - jumping like crazy. With these new changes you're as good as dead. It won't help to run from side to side you know ...



And what are the consequences? More ppl camping. Not that I hate camping, but I don't think it'll be fun to watch the whole T team camp every single round on a defuse map...

[rizzuh]

People will camp if they camp.



They will not camp if they can not jump over and over. I do not see how jumping makes the game fun.

[pr0fane]

rizzuh wrote..

Jumping over and over is lame, deal with it.

Ok, good point.



I got a better one;



CS-Nation is lame, deal with it.



(Wasn't ment for flaming CSNation - Just wanted to see some good arguments from you.)

[Kram]

the cheats will always be here .. we just have to be better, and fight the large public cheats! .. we survived the cheats, because of HOPE .. HOPE from anticheat projects like Sentinel (Thecleaners.dk) or paladin (paladin-anticheat.com) .. we survived for a long time with help from etc. punkbuster, not with any kind of help from Valve ..



And why is jumping over and over lame? if it is lame, then ffs then you should have removed it in THE FINAL ! 1.0 <- FINAL VERSION AND SOLD VERSION AF CS ! .. not freekin' Final version 1.4 .. GG? ..



Hi I just bought Quake3, when I bought it it had no stamina, and just rocket launcher and a shotgun .. now it has airsupport, stimana, nukes and you can only fire the railgun once 1 minute, because all the newbies are complaining about how they are being owned ..



Blah !

[pr0fane]

I hate Q3