cs 1.4 preview

[evil_pieces]

Can anyone figure out why ppl play cs? Because it is fun, rounds end quickly and every kind of player has a chance. Everything is nearly perfect. What distinguishes cs from all the other shooters is that IT IS FUN. Too much realism kills the fun factor and camper-strike makes everyone wait forever. As far as i know jumping hurts no one, it is why cs is so fun, you can hit the space bar over and over and over....Changing cs to make it a whole different game would kill it. Changes that dont' alter the game like new maps and weapons make the game much better

[wags02jw]

DONT SWITCH TO 1.4 AWPERS WILL TAKE OVER THE GAME AND EVERYONE WILL SWITCHOVER TO DOD OR SOMETHING. PLZ PLZ DONT DO IT!

[Coconut]

Ill say it again, in the old days of cs (pre beta 6.5)

I cannot remember any1 jumping like crazy to avoid bullets.

I cant even remember if that was possible back then.

Anyway ppl are just mad coz they lose their jump "skill" which MANY ppl starting to do since cs 1.0. (I have this "skill" too , but i rarely use it coz it is stupid in my opinion). Many ppl think this "change" in cs 1.4

is to add "realism". This is the big error. The makers of cs change it coz

it is their view of how cs should be. I share this view. Again i address the fact that in the old days of cs this jump "skill" was not used.

And, as most ppl agree, cs was BEST back then. As most ppl here havent pld 1.4 yet i strongly suggest to wait with these comments which are merely based on "assumption".

[D|24g0n]

it would be nice if they left the server admin to decide rather ppl can jump over and over (just make it and option in the server)

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D|24g0n wrote..

it would be nice if they left the server admin to decide rather ppl can jump over and over (just make it and option in the server)

yeah I do agree with you.

Anyway, I think that the fact we cannot jump to much is not a good thing.

First of all, I like to jump when running. ( no reason for that, I just like it )

secondly, in some map, there are place that you can access only by jumping ( and then u got a good place where u can see everybody in the map... ). Those place where made FOR that and this add fun to the game. If we cannot acces anymore to thos places, then mapers should not worry of making anyplateform where you can go on as u will always too tired to jump.

I think too that if cs is so much liked then it may be because it is not so realistic. People playing swat3 online are not numerous and this may come from that it is too realistic...

Goseman, I really think u chose the wrong option with jumps. If thing changes in a too brutal way, the people who were good will be disgusted, and if team play changes too much, it is the same thing.

Of course, it is important to bring new things, but I think jump thing is not a good one.

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quoting from <a href="http://www.mpz.co.uk/features/feature.asp?idno=84" target="_blank">www.mpz.co.uk/features/feature.asp?i
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"The weapon names have been changed from real ones to made up ones."

oh no...

ok so name are going to be "the grandfather of heavy set of the death gun" instead of "artic warfare" ?

eek !

oh no, better than that ! there are gonna be called bullpop !

this name really really really ..... suck don't u think ?

[oSc . . . Sloth]

Hmmm i have been playing only for about a year so i don't know how u guys will take my comments but here is my 2 cents.

CS 1.4 sounds really good to me right now except for the jump thingy and the dead bodies staying where they are thingy and the paying thingy =) The reason why they don't sound so great is because of this . . .

Dead Body Thingy=> Sounds like a great idea but if it starts lagging the gameplay it won't be so hot.

Paying Thingy=> This is the first time i heard of that idea of having to pay to play CS and that is just so F*ed up and a load of BS . . . dude screw that (if its true)

Now the all coveted Jumpy Thingy=> I do know how to bunnyhop and u can't really do it in 1.3. I meen u still get the motion but what happens is in most servers is that u don't gain the speed. Anyhow, I wouldn't bhopped to get anywhere like from one spot to the other cuz most players don't like that. The only times i would do it was when i would camp like for example in seige . . .If i were a t, i would just bhop in the garage while waiting for the cts. I mean it was cool to do something to keep my occupied while waiting for those cts to come in (like bhopping in a circle in same spot). Why u ask? . . . it just looks cool on my screen (or i would knife my teamates while i wait =) ).

But anyhow back to the point. I usally play in clan servers (949,x, $ik) and these players are really cool and fun to play with. NOBODY bhops except occasionally . . . why? because it doesn't do a thing but look cool and when do they do it? . . . when they are just waiting and doing something to pass the time . . . not to get anywhere. keke i keep straying off the subject.

Bunnyhopping is old, its not even that big of a deal anymore. You don't need a script to do it btw (since so many posts say scripts in them.) Some peeps just like to run and jump in the air (not bunnyhop, just jump).

Most good players don't jump that much when they play since all weopons are so bad when jumping. The only good weopons to use when jumping from any distance is the knife (well not anydistance for this one obviosuly), pistols, and shottie. All the rest are utterly inaccurate and u should only jump and shoot while ur within close range. OKAY I'm VERY SORRY FOR TAKING SO LONG BUT HERE IS MY MAIN POINT . . .

When i use my pistol (most good players do this too) i like to jump around like crazy. I jump so i will be a harder target to hit btw. Also, espeically with a pump shottie. Those are the like the main weopons u have to jump with when ur at close range. So it won't be so fun to be using a pistol or pump anymore since if u jump do try and dodge the other persons rifle or smg or pistol fire u just get slower so the other guy could hit u even easier.

[oSc . . . Sloth]

Also, i don't know about the peeps that say u jump to avoid awp fire thats just not too smart. The reason for that is because a good/decent awp could estimate where u land and just move his crosshairs to ur landing point. The best way to avoid awp in my oppinion is to zigzag and only use jump when ur landing point can't be seen. For example jumping across a doorway.

[oSc . . . Sloth]

Okay, here goes . . . i just like to jump around when moving when no one is around. Not bunnyhopping btw, just jumping. Also i like to jump when using the pistol or pump shottie so i would be harder to hit. I don't want this to happen for example=> . . . "I jumped to avoid being shot but now i'm too slow (because of the jump thingy) to even move at a pace faster than a walk in front of an enemy who is crouching with a rifle bursting or spraying with an mp5."

[Parabellum]

Ain't it funny ? They made new features while the game needed ohterstuff, for example, a good anti cheat proggy. Also, the bugs who are still in the game, old bugs like dissapearing radar, maps like de_dust and cs_militia who are still not properly clipped, excists. Jumping still thru the roof ? LMAO, come on, after all these bete's and the shit is still there. In my opinion Valve is still looking for a cheap way to continu the money milking from the new generation gamers, adjust that old engine, sell new copy's and getting loads of money for a still buggy game. They can't fool me no longer cause they said, retail version 1.0 whould have been the end. Now Valve is still stubborn to use a newer engine for their game and continu this old shat. Eventually as life, all good things will die, I hope Valve too. With the new edition coming out, CZ, they should have turned that into CS 2, new engine, hardcoded and a built in anti cheat system. Yet, they didn't, cause they never understand, or at least, don't want too cause CS is a Team Baed MP and yet they made a single player with a co-op function. Did they ever realized what the succes of CS was ? Anyway, ,,l, Valve, the end is near. They can learn from NWO, they delayed their release to build in a permanent anti cheat system, thank god.

[decimo]

The actual reason why valve is implementing these new changes is to make cs just like dod. The reasoning is very simple. Since the release of cs 1.0 retail, the old skewl gamers quit cs for a more 'cheat free' game. Because the half-life physics engine (in my eyes anyways) is one of the greatest today, they chose to dump cs for dod (an all around piece of shit game... way to realistic). Now gooseman and his team see this... that all of their friends now play dod instead of cs so they sit down and figure out how they can get them back to cs. After long thoughts on the topic they realize people like dod based on the realizm factor (which is the most retarted conclusion one can muster). Thus because valve and the cs team believe people are leaving cs for dod due to REALIZM and not due to the CHEAT FACTOR valve will continue to ignore the actual game problems and make what made cs the greatest online game to date: fun.



Not only do i find their lack of diagnosis disgusting but i also feal insulted for the many gamers who bought a copy of cs retail only to have the game they spent their hard earned money on drastically altered. Buyer beware? hahahahaha



As for the jumping situation.....I love to bunny hop (not confused with strafe jumping for all u morons who still post about bunny hopping being strafe jumping...ie jumping really really fast) in public servers because its fun and isnt as boring as team stacking and ogc hs's through walls. In anything actually considered worth playing ie. scrims and matches... jumping is completely worthless and anyone who would argue otherwise obviously doesnt know how to awp/m (gg flamers use every excuse: its awp not awm u newbie!!!). The point is obviously that any awper who knows how to play will understands that when you jump vs him, you are a free kill. He will justfind where you will land, wait and boom.....bye bye son ( write that one down for later...ull prolly use it) a free kill.



Anyways the point is to shed some light on the actual reasons why valve is doing what they are and why i think thats dumb. Either way there will always be someone who is 14 and whining.



thats a wrap. flame on sir.

[tobbe]

I'm gonna stop play CS when 1.4 comes out because the stamina i think it sucks ! ! is it true CS 1.4 is gonna take away bunny hopping if they are i know a lot of people hos gonna start playing some other game like i. I don't play CS because its realistic i play it because its FUN !!!and the name is AWP i hate when they call AWP AWM !!!! only newbies say AWM its AWP !!! I think CS is the best game ever and now they gona DESTROY it !!!!

[The Village Idiot]

[SARCASM] Oh, no! Now you have to wait untill you actually fully pull out your AWP before you can shoot? My god, what kind of a stupid game rule is that?[/SARCASM]

[Garmer]

Hah



I would've posted this news on CS-Extreme.net to, but that right clicking pissed me so much off that I didn't :|

Couldn't use their images in the newspost or anything - webmasters using a such code should really reconsider...



(end rant)

[rizzuh]

Yeah, Garmer. Things like this should be saved for warez sites. Amateurish for sure.