cs 1.4 preview

[phonque]

rizzuh wrote..

Oh please, if cheats don't kill Counter-Strike, nothing will for at least a while.



Jumping over and over is lame, deal with it.

thats a pretty big call, maybe you should have polled the idea first before deciding what everyone in the cs community wants for them..



i think you will find the results contrary to your own ideas

[GonZo]

as Shiu did, i also register to take part in this discussion about this jumping issue.

Well just compare, in the Day of Defeat map Oslo when u are on the Axis team, the spawn is behind a little wall. To succesfull climb this wall, u need to jump 2 times (jump and then crouch), if the second jump not is a succes, u will start lagging in stamina and now have to wait for way to long (but still a short periode) before u can try to climb it again..... now imagine how this would be in CS.

But again, the theme in DoD is realism, but it aint in CS... and as a clever man wrote earlier, u dont play CS for realism, but bacause it's fun as it is.... want realism? play DoD!

[Highpinger]

dod is not realistic YET, its still in beta 1.3b, fgt.

</sacarsm>anyhoo, yay 1.4, lets wait for it 1 year later, yay! </sacarsm>

[azure.]

Edited by [user="9247"] @ [time="1011342073"]

sumdood wrote...

I thought patches/new releases were supposed to fix bugs , deal with cheating and bring out some new maps etc. Or maybe add a couple new weapons. Changing something like that is too profound of a difference. It is almost like bringing out a new mod.



I still say making the hostages work better, tone down the headshots and most of all find a way to kill cheating. Then you have a perfect game.



I bet a lot of players will abandon ship, if this jumping change is implemented.

I think this sums it up

[JdeFalconr]

YOU JUMP TO SURVIVE THE AWM ! .. when you 'land on your feet' you take a shot, with your deagle etc. and if your lucky get a HS?

If that's the only way you can avoid an AWP shot then you need to try alot harder. Here's where CS is a thinking game. There is ALOT you can do without jumping to avoid AWP shots. You can....

*dodge left/right/forward/back/sideways/etc.

*altrenate movement speeds run/walk

*move in & out of cover to close the distance and get a shot

*dodge in & out of cover and shoot the bastard

*avoid the sniper alltogether (take a different route)

*use some TEAMPLAY and COMMUNICATION to either call in one of your own snipers, grab some teammates, or have them circle around and flank the sniper

*wait for the sniper to take a shot then waste him while he reloads.

*HE grenades

*flashbangs

*smoke grenades (In my opinion, Smoke Grenades are just about THE most under-used feature of CS. They do wonders to kill LOS, especially against snipers in the tunnel on Dust.)

There you go, ten different things you can do without jumping to take out a sniper. I hardly doubt this is an exhaustive list, either. If you can only take out a sniper by jumping while you do one of these things or none of them, then you need to put a bit more thought into your game.

[ufoate]

hmm..... from my point of view i think that what valve should do is to put an option to servers where they can choose what they want like if the server likes to have the jump implemantation then so be it and others no.. coz it will also be quite unrelistic if you jump twice and hear panting sounds i'm sure if you are wearing a kevhelm armour and holda mp5 you can jump up and down for about 10-15 times then pant right? and i dont understand what slow pause ? telling me that every jump you are like gonna fall down or something issit? trying to keep your balance? that sux!! i really think valve should do something about it

[nesredep]

daah, those 10 reasons don't hold up sh*t. Throw a HE ? - lol .. but then again.. i won't bitch about this so-called stamina system before i've played with it. But for sure as hell i know if this is ANYTHING like DoD i'm quitting this, but i still have a little faith in the CS-team to do whats best for this game so i'll just be praying for the gameplay is intact ... if not .. :\

[GonZo]

i don't really think u have to learn Kram anything about the game....

[SeedyIrvine]

I get to beta test this bastard... Hope it doesn't screw up my original CS & HL...

STEAM should be good tho.. it allows for file transfer from the update servers as well as new maps and other addons.



Good luck to meh :P

[wtaag]

i would like to see a secure cd key system in CS: CZ So that a ban would actually mean something. Ahh.... we can always dream cant we. Also... how I combat a awp... If i die the first round from one... I come back with a scout or awp. The scout is way under used and is a headshot machine.

[BlitzUKT]

Oh please, if cheats don't kill Counter-Strike, nothing will for at least a while.



Jumping over and over is lame, deal with it.

I agree, constant jumping is lame...but surely they can't make it too bad if you're only jumping once. For instance (pointed out by a mate), when you hear someone coming, you jump round a corner to surprise them and unload your gun into them.....it won't quite have the same effect if you have to recover and they have plenty time to react.



Hopefully, it's been done so that it gets progressively worse if you jump in quick succession.

[Zyqol]

Edited by [user="8407"] @ [time="1011354938"]

I want valve to implement the three letters that don't exist in english, but in swedish, åäö. Sure, it's a small country but we have NIP! :=)

I don't understand how this central login system work? Can somone who has played quakeworld tell me how it is? Then I want valve to include a network menu, where you could turn of all predictions, lag compensations, change cmdrate, updaterate, rate, and more network things. We who have around 15-25 in ping shouldn't have to suffer because there is HPW's... to understand what I mean, plz read the article on geekboys ---> www.geekboys.org/features.php?id=1



It would also be nice with a Graphics menu where you could change color (posible by adding -32bpp in the shortcut), texture filtering, vsync and more.

[YEKNOD]

BRING ON COUNTER-STRIKE VERSION 1.4

F*CK THE HATERS!!!



ALL THESE CHANGES SHOULD HAVE BEEN MADE ALONG TIME AGO!!!

BRING IT ON!!!



YOU ALL MAKE ME CHUCKLE!

IF YOU DON'T WANNA PLAY THE GAME AFTER THIS RELEASE GOOD, F*CK YOU!!! I COULDN'T CARE LESS ABOUT YOU FREAKS PLAYING THE GAME, THE LESS OF YOU THE BETTER!!!



LIVE WITH IT AND STOP HATING!!!

[BlitzUKT]

Yeah ok, shut it you narrow minded t0sser, it's a discussion.



Ahh...that feels better.

[mouth]

Really makes you wonder how pathetic this new breed of retail players is when they try to make it sound like bunny hopping adds so much depth that the mod will be crippled without it. Or maybe their notion of "skill" is so absurd that they'd be naked without it? Is that it, guys? Will your repertoire of tactics have a gaping hole without you precious crack-rabbit parlor trick? Jackasses. Is that all CS is to you morons? Not a game of stealth and strategy, but one of constant bunny hopping?



And the rest of you making it sound like the majority LIKES bunnyhopping... The players that are actually valuable to this mod despise it.



#1,

Half the CS community could quit tomorrow and it would still be the most popular fps many times over. That tells me that people can't be too concerned with how the jumping works.

From what i've seen people aren't too concerned with how bomb planting or covering a doorway works either. The point is, that doesn't mean that there isn't a problem with bunnyhopping, it just means that people are generally too stupid to notice it. Kinda like how so many people can buy n'sync albums without noticing that they have no appreciable aptitude for music.



#6, Everyone with a clue knows that this mod was nowhere near being ready to exit the "beta" stages. It was a huge mistake. Now Goose is trying to fix some things that need fixing and you're going to bitch about it? You'd rather he just abandoned CS and left it in shambles? What nerve.