Report: Kinect Based DRM for the Xbox One May Apply Additional Fees Based on the Number of People Watching a Movie

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  • Shawn Zipay
    Managing Communities 24/7
    • Apr 2003
    • 69068

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    Report: Kinect Based DRM for the Xbox One May Apply Additional Fees Based on the Number of People Watching a Movie

    An old patent filed by Microsoft for the upcoming Kinect bundled with the Xbox One may serve as a very restrictive and annoying form of visual DRM.

    The technology at work in the patent will utilize Kinect's always-on camera to determine how many people are sitting in an area watching a movie on the Xbox One. If the number of people exceeds the maximum number of viewers permitted by the film license, the user will be prompted to pay an additional fee to upgrade the license.
    "The users consuming the content on a display device are monitored so that if the number of user-views licensed is exceeded, remedial action may be taken."

    The additional fee is based on a per movie license that the user agrees to when they rent or purchase a film through the Xbox One and is based on a per film or per movie studio setting.

    Again, this is an old patent, but sources in the UK gaming industry told MCV within the past month that the system will be included with the Xbox One. Microsoft's only statement on the matter says that the company "regularly applies for an receives patents as part of its business practice, not all patents applied for or received will be incorporated into a Microsoft product." That can also be read as "we're not saying yes this is included, but we're also not saying it isn't."
  • jimykx
    No, I AM your father!
    • Jan 2010
    • 6640

    #2

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    • stilla-killa
      CantGetRight
      • Aug 2005
      • 5905

      #3
      Wow if this is true then another nail in the coffin for Xone.

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      • Anarchy1
        Member
        • Aug 2010
        • 1546

        #4
        It might not be bad depending on what the number of people is before they start charging.
        Battlelog/Origin ID - Hurricane043

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        • Shawn Zipay
          Managing Communities 24/7
          • Apr 2003
          • 69068

          #5
          Originally posted by Anarchy1
          It might not be bad depending on what the number of people is before they start charging.
          It's not consistent.

          The additional fee is based on a per movie license that the user agrees to when they rent or purchase a film through the Xbox One and is based on a per film or per movie studio setting.

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          • nemes1s3000

            #6
            Just turn the Kinect around and have it facing a picture frame of a single individual in it. Problem solved.

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            • The_Eliminator
              Senior Member
              • Aug 2006
              • 5486

              #7
              ^^^

              Would that actually work? Hmmm

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              • Stev0esque
                5t3v0 (I miss leetspeech)
                • Feb 2008
                • 6786

                #8
                Originally posted by nemes1s3000
                Just turn the Kinect around and have it facing a picture frame of a single individual in it. Problem solved.
                You know, I wonder if that'll actually work... if not, put it infront of a high def GIF of that single person moving slightly on a cheap laptop or tablet or something.

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                • K-16
                  ...
                  • Aug 2026
                  • 2016

                  #9
                  You just made me smack my head and sigh in disappointment... Way to ruin hundreds of thousands of dollars of R&D and legal fees by coming up with an exploit within a day.

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                  • jimykx
                    No, I AM your father!
                    • Jan 2010
                    • 6640

                    #10
                    doesn't it has an IR sensor now?

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                    • The_Eliminator
                      Senior Member
                      • Aug 2006
                      • 5486

                      #11
                      Just face it at the dog. Problem solved.

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                      • dvereb
                        n00b!!!11!!
                        • Aug 2026
                        • 211

                        #12
                        Originally posted by The_Eliminator
                        Just face it at the dog. Problem solved.
                        "Ruff"
                        "Dog detected, viewer count faking detected, movies deleted, subscription cancelled."

                        Or perhaps this scenario:
                        On Xbox One when your kid walks in...
                        "[Kid's name] detected. Game is rated M for mature. Game shutting down."
                        Could you imagine call of duty without all the kids?!

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                        • CptainCrunch
                          I am the 1%
                          • Oct 2007
                          • 12976

                          #13
                          Sensor is easy to bypass or fool.

                          So you have one of those animated picture frames with a heat lamp
                          Twitter: @CptainCrunch
                          Battlelog/Origin: CptainCrunch

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                          • SgtMattBaker
                            Member
                            • Aug 2007
                            • 1719

                            #14
                            Keep digging!

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                            • Shawn Zipay
                              Managing Communities 24/7
                              • Apr 2003
                              • 69068

                              #15
                              Given that it has depth detection and IR detection, simply turning it around won't really work nor would pointing it at a photograph. Assuming it's as advanced as they claim it is.

                              The damn thing knows when you look away from the screen in order to pause content, FFS, and you guys think it'll be fooled by a 2D image?

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