More 1.4 Beta Testers Needed

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No offence, but with advice like that it's no wonder they told you to "stuff off"

It's fair enough. The class based on stealth isn't stealthy, simple. Also sniper is my least favoured class, the suggestion is for fairness and reality only.

These aren't my suggestions either, they're a mix of bugs and needed changes.

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72. UAV and Scan can spot prone motionless snipers, unfair.

I won't be beta testing for DICE. They've basically told me to stuff off with all my ideas and bug reports for a year now, and they expect me to test new sh!t I don't want while refusing to fix bugs, WTF?

No offence, but with advice like that it's no wonder they told you to "stuff off"

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12) Commander is able to spot an enemy even without Scan or UAV. He should have spotting ability only while scan is in progress. When scan is over and info about enemy had disappeared, he should not be able to spot enemies until next scan/UAV.

No. 12 there isn't a bug, it's just visual spotting.

Here are some more.

67. Friendly vs. friendly vehicle collisions, the strongest vehicle is blamed, but the fastest is nearly always at fault.

68. Players can leap from a vehicle at the last minute and the empty vehicle doesn't cause a tk, but just a suicide.

69. Snipers shouldn't be able to snipe friendly pilots.

70. Players walk past a burning wreck which explodes, unfairly giving the ex driver a tk.

71. Sometimes when reloading the animation plays out but the gun isn't reloaded, and the whole sequence is repeated with a successful reload second time around.

72. UAV and scan can spot prone motionless snipers, unfair.

73. Ability to throw useful items (ammo, medkits) nerfed when C4 chucking nerfed, put it back to v1.

74. (edit on 24/08/06) There are some invisible structures that helos and jets can smash into above the docks on Dragon Valley.

I won't be beta testing for DICE. They've basically told me to stuff off with all my ideas and bug reports for a year now, and they expect me to test new sh!t I don't want while refusing to fix bugs, WTF?

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I played the beta for awhile. Prolly 5 daysish. I responsed on the EA forums(which break down every 10 minutes) As stupid as it may sound. If it's not ranked(which I am not sure if it is or not, part of the problem in itself.) people don't want it EA/Dice/Colin. I'm very sorry to see you guys think its a failure but hay you made your own monster didn't ya.

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I tested both of the Novalogic's Joint Operations games (JOTR and JOE) along with hundreds of other testers. We were given the beta months before retail release and had a seperate installer for each version.

The beta was one or two generations ahead of the retail version that was kept seperate so that you could play on ranked servers. The NDA was the limiting factor between the current RETAIL and BETA versions.

Sure it took some disk space but both versions were kept totally seperate from the actual store bought copy already running on the machine. I had no problems what so ever during that experience.

I expected that this BF2 Beta to include a self installer sheild as well. I guessed wrong. My computer is already groaning with the weight of the retail BF2 on aging hard drives and I will NOT try to stamp out a new copy because I KNOW something will be FUBAR before it is completed.

Hate to rain on anyone's parade but I am protective of my poor bairns in that case under the desk.

The failure of EA/DICE to create a Seperate installer (Install sheild) and keeping the Beta totally seperate than the retail caused many players to find themselves unable to play after installing the beta.

People dont want to twist in agony thru reams of instructions and step by step across forum posts while reading that "OH It's SIMPLE, I HAD NOT PROBLEMS" from the multitudes of the more gifted computer people.

We simple phesants need a little TLC if you want stuff to work on our machine. One rule in the computer world "Make it idiot proof so that it will execute in face of user errors."

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It's not as hard as it seems to create a own folder to backup your 1.3. But on the other hand it keeps the noobs away from using the beta . I for example didn't play 1.3 for weeks because of the gameplay bugs so it is not this hard for me to only be able to play 1.4 afterwards :). And 1.4 is inevitable so you can get used to it a bit sooner. But I also kept a copy of my 1.3 install, because the 1.4 final will patch against 1.3 or 1.x not against 1.4 beta 2 or beta 1. Why? Because even beta 2 full wasn't able to patch the 1.4 beta 1 install.

For me the installation of the beta is a lesser problem then the fact that there is no proper bugtracking system available.

[JonnyMacFred102]

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They should had modified their installer so it keeps their previous copy AND add an icon to uninstall 1.40.

I could easily write it in a few lines in InstallShield.

Remember, this is EA, trying to challenege everything and make it as hard as possible to do the simplest things like creating a new directory for the beta.

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They should had modified their installer so it keeps their previous copy AND add an icon to uninstall 1.40.

I could easily write it in a few lines in InstallShield.

[Abominogg]

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finally found a populated server, played Jalalabad, had a good time, no bugs to speak of. Was nice to not get wiped by jets and choppers. Granted, pilots in general are very skilled, anymore they are too skilled, and end up ruling and eventually ruining the round, so it was nice to have ground-only fighting.
Are there any US servers, btw?

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I downloaded both beta patches, the READ ME FIRST.doc was in beta 1 but not beta 2 zip file.

Beta Disclaimer
Greetings!
By taking part in this BETA you are accepting the risks related to the use of non-final code. EA & DICE are not responsible for any harm caused by the use of these files. EA will not provide customer support for any issues related to the use of any BETA related files. Any issues experienced during the use of these files should be reported to the EA Battlefield2 forums.

Helpful Tips:

Installation steps to protect your original BF2 install:
Beta Installation

1. Go to “C:\Program Files\EA GAMES”
2. Right click the “Battlefield 2” folder and choose “Copy”
3. Right click anywhere away from this folder and choose “Paste”
4. Once the copy has completed, you will have two folders named “Battlefield 2” and “Copy of Battlefield 2”
5. Install the patch 1.4 beta, then start the game as normal

When you wish to switch back to the release version of BF2, use the following steps:

1. Go to “C:\Program Files\EA GAMES”
2. Right click the “Battlefield 2” folder and choose “Rename”
3. Rename the folder to something like “Battlefield 2 Beta”
4. Right click the “Copy of Battlefield 2” folder
5. Rename the folder the “Battlefield 2”
6. Start the game as normal.

The shortcut will run BF2.exe from whichever folder is named “Battlefield 2” and both installations share the same registry entries.

Using the above steps will negate the need to completely uninstall and re-install whenever you wish to switch from the retail version to the beta version and vice versa.

This is not my first Beta I have tested for an online game. Most of my Testing has been with the Mechwarrior series game, starting with MW2 Mercs and with Mods for MW4 Mercs for MekTek {also was a Alpha Tester} and NBT HardCore.

In each of the later 2 Beta's, we had either a separate install or a switcher that allowed you to test the beat or play the regular game online.

When you had to update the Beta you did not have to uninstall the previous Beta, but add on like a patch.

I do believe this is one of the Major stumbling blocks on why most of us have not participated in the 1.4 patch beta. The point I am trying to make is, EA/Dice needs to make the 1.4 Beta proccess easier for all that play BF2 and the upcoming BF2142 Beta to install and update Beta game content.

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umm u would completly understand where i am coming from if u played competition in the TWL/CAL leagues.. which is the 2 top leagues for BF2 .. period.. and right now TWL/CAL both really hate where 1.4 is going.. it is purly going towards the pub nub community which is making the game crap.

Ummm I completely understand both Leagues as I have been playing on 1 or the other or both +others for more than 6 years in many games. Including All BF games,BFV POE Infantry included. YOu still havent yet explained why you believe that your better than a pubber. As I said the majority of players arent just passing time here ya know, when they load a map they immeadietly go into competition mode, sometimes as a team, other times lone wolf. As a matter of fact I have seen many clan players who just plain suck. For that matter having run competitions and a clan for many years It occurs to me that no one bitches about stuff as much as a clanner. Pubbers for the most part, play the game and "adapt" to the changes made. Clanners complain that they cant squad hop wins anymore (Which is essentially what every top team at your listed sites used to win matches, yes I know from experience so dont try to convince me otherwise), they took away your bunnyhopping and you cried, its always the same with your type. You think because your playing in a match everything should be for you, Bah.

So yes please explain what makes you better, telling me that those sites dont like the changes just mans you cant handle the changes and adapt to them like the average "pub nub" has to. Instead you whine about it more than any pub nub could ever hope to. Your assertion that the game is going to crap is debatable since theres still around 50-60 thousand players playing it. Actually the changes to the game are for the community as a whole and not just for you and your precious leagues.

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I went to the 1.4 Feedback Thread at http://forums.ea.com/mboards/thread.jspa?threadID=85812 and it says <table class="jive-info-message" border="0" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="0" width="350"><tbody><tr valign="top"><td width="1%"></td> <td width="99%"> This thread is locked - replies are not allowed.

So why did I install and play it???
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And what exactly makes you comp players better than us pubbers?? I spent 5 years in the same clan, ran a BF2 ladder and tournament, played in over 100 comp matches in BF2 and over 2000 in other games. Yet when I play BF2 or any other game I always play the same way, to win. So what is it exactly that makes you so great because you play competition?? Really I wanna see your logic, cause I hear this total load of crap all the time.

Im a good player because I am a good player, it has absolutly **** to do with my being in a clan or because I am competitive. If you think your better because you play competition then your a fool, 80% of the players in BF2 play competitively every time they join a server. Its always competitive.....unless your one of the 20% who really (and I mean no offense you know who you are) just suck, then its just for fun.

An "exclusive version", jesus I thought I had seen it all till I saw that arrogant bull.

umm u would completly understand where i am coming from if u played competition in the TWL/CAL leagues.. which is the 2 top leagues for BF2 .. period.. and right now TWL/CAL both really hate where 1.4 is going.. it is purly going towards the pub nub community which is making the game crap.

[zuiquan1]

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the main problem with installing is that BF2 is so damn big that I cant afford to have 2 copies of it on my machine, It takes about 2 hours to fully copy the BF2 folder and then when Im almost finished it says I dont have enough room on my hardrive.(and no Im not going to just "clear up some space" I barely have enough room as is)

Having 2 full copies of BF2 destroys my computer and thats why Im not testing it.

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12) Commander is able to spot an enemy even without Scan or UAV. He should have spotting ability only while scan is in progress. When scan is over and info about enemy had disappeared, he should not be able to spot enemies until next scan/UAV.

Uh, you do know that commanders can zoom in all the way to spot enemies right? I don't think that's a bug.

And I was reading CGW and DICE said that they have made a 600% improvement to the server browser in BF:2142, WTF! We've been waiting for over a year for decent server browser and they decided to improve it in the next iteration of BF. They need to get there piorities right because right now Crysis is starting to look a hell of lot better right now. Of course a new Operation Flashpoint beats all of them :)

For those who don't know what Operation Flashpoint is, it's a true mans war game. None of that stupid 4 man super squad crap like GRAW. It's basically raw War where tanks are meant to be feared, and jumping idiots die in an instant.