BattleField 2142 is a stolen idea.

[WarGimp]

Re: BattleField 2142 is a stolen idea.

No, **** no, Star Wars is the revelations of whats to come. Read your bible, same thing in Star Wars, same thing happening now.

Drugs are bad for you. Cool it with the LSD.

As for JKII, running around with a lightsaber isnt original?

Except for a little game called JEDI KNIGHT(1)! Which itself was actually titled Dark Forces 2.

Half Life is a TRUE original based FPS. Quake wasnt that interesting, yeah just go around blood thursty.

It's the engine that sparked off the full 3D shooter craze that led to the development of Unreal, HalfLife, and basicly all the other shooters we love today. True, the storyline sucked, but that's what happens when the lead programer is in charge.

HL's story, on the otherhand, is very much Lovecraftian (which is a genre all to itself, and thus unoriginal by it's definition).

BF1942, is something where there are no limits. You can do "anything" in the game. Thats why it was also original. The WWII games after that did follow, but where are the open, vehicle filled maps?

Did you play Tribes? Not only did it allowed you to play however you liked (repair stuff, fly stuff, man turrets, or just go shoot the crap outta the badguys) it also hade no boarders at all. You could head off in any direction and you'd never find the edge of the world. A feat that's yet to be replicated in any game.

No thanks, i dont need a dictionary, why not YOU "think outside the box"

There's a differance between "thinking outside the box" and just presenting yourself as an idiot.

Ya need some education in the subject. I've provided you with a good start. No go out 'n learn something if you want to be taken seriously.

[unununium]

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Except for a little game called JEDI KNIGHT(1)! Which itself was actually titled Dark Forces 2.

Some could say LucasArts stole the running around with a lightsaber idea from the Dark Forces lightsaber mods, which were in turn stolen from the Star Wars movies, which were in turn stolen from The Hidden Fortress.

Art is based on prior art and it's hard to find an original idea in the games industry these days, let alone one that makes money. Good thing Valve's around and they just seem to keep getting lucky

[ShieldedWolf]

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No, he really doesn't get it & said, da.

[General_Han_Solo]

Re: BattleField 2142 is a stolen idea.

Drugs are bad for you. Cool it with the LSD.

I dont take drugs, its my opinion, and wait till the date 06/06/06, or in the future between 2007 and 2012

Except for a little game called JEDI KNIGHT(1)! Which itself was actually titled Dark Forces 2.

Yeah sure, both are unique, just that Jedi Knight II is a much better representation, in the way you play it. Like the Graphics, the way the sword MOVES porperly, like kendo style. (im 5th dan in kendo btw, just a side note).

It's the engine that sparked off the full 3D shooter craze that led to the development of Unreal, HalfLife, and basicly all the other shooters we love today. True, the storyline sucked, but that's what happens when the lead programer is in charge.

True

HL's story, on the otherhand, is very much Lovecraftian (which is a genre all to itself, and thus unoriginal by it's definition).

I havent played Lovecraftian, never heard of it. But the name sounds interesting.

Did you play Tribes? Not only did it allowed you to play however you liked (repair stuff, fly stuff, man turrets, or just go shoot the crap outta the badguys) it also hade no boarders at all. You could head off in any direction and you'd never find the edge of the world. A feat that's yet to be replicated in any game.

No, i didnt play Tribes, and thats cool.

There's a differance between "thinking outside the box" and just presenting yourself as an idiot.

O RLY? As far as your knowledge is concerned, i guess your a hardcore gamer, nothing more or nothing less. Ever thought that not everyone is a full fledged gamer, therefore reading my words correctly, and being a bit more informative to the uninformative of the gaming history, i think you need to think otherwise.

Ya need some education in the subject. I've provided you with a good start. No go out 'n learn something if you want to be taken seriously.

Oh yeah sure, learning about games is going to help me in life!!!

[rombaft]

Re: BattleField 2142 is a stolen idea.

hahahaahahaaaa, rip off ?
lol man, nothing rip off about that, what is BF2 ? a rip of from every other modern time shooter because they use AK's , M16's, ....

[General_Han_Solo]

Re: BattleField 2142 is a stolen idea.

Some could say LucasArts stole the running around with a lightsaber idea from the Dark Forces lightsaber mods, which were in turn stolen from the Star Wars movies, which were in turn stolen from The Hidden Fortress.

Art is based on prior art and it's hard to find an original idea in the games industry these days, let alone one that makes money. Good thing Valve's around and they just seem to keep getting lucky

Yes indeed its been stolen from the core franchise which is the movie, BUT, do you get to use the lightsaber in the movie? NO. Thats why JK is unique, in that you use the thing. just for the recored of those that take the topic overly serious, you dont use the lightsaber.

[FordMustang]

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This thread is ripping off the one below it. I think i'll whine about it on another forum kthxbye

[General_Han_Solo]

Re: BattleField 2142 is a stolen idea.

This thread is ripping off the one below it. I think i'll whine about it on another forum kthxbye

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[WarGimp]

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I havent played Lovecraftian, never heard of it. But the name sounds interesting.

ROLFs!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H._P._Lovecraft

I strongly recomend that anyone who hasn't read Lovecraft do so. His writing is brilliant despite it being very dated (1910 to 1930). He's basicly the guy that figured out that what you don't see is a hella lot more scary than what you do see. You wanna talk about original matiral, Lovecraft is a damned good place ta look.

That said, it's funny how little known his work has become by the majority of people. The movie "In the Mouth of Madness" (one of my favorite horror flicks) is a direct attempt to make a modern Lovecraftian story. Hellboy (which is one you're more likely to have seen) also lifted it's theams directly from the Cthulu mythous.

I'm amazed that more people haven't picked up on how HL's storyline is likewise very much inspired by Lovecraft. There's the "aliens" that live in a space that is parallel to ours, shapeshifting (and defilement) of humans, the conspet that neither time nor space are fixed, and of cource the whole Man In Black thing where a (apparent) human is making faustian deals with the devil.

Don't get me wrong... I love seeing these elements in any good story, but be aware that the Valve writers are very obviously Lovecraft fans.

Oh yeah sure, learning about games is going to help me in life!!!

As the above should show you, we're not talking about just games. We're looking at art in general and the way that ideas develop. No education is a waste if you know how to apply it.

[Leemus]

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Seriously, i cant wait for the MOD Desert Conflict, as thats gonna be the 1337 PWNZERS

By 1337 pwnzors you mean exactly the same?

[chrono7]

Re: BattleField 2142 is a stolen idea.

A Battlefield-style Tiberian Sun would be awesome in my opinion.

[TraviSavvy]

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Too bad the premise is ridiculous because global warming is a farce....

And I see your point, I guess, but as others have pointed out, nothing is "new" as you see it. Everything is based on other things.

[WarGimp]

Re: BattleField 2142 is a stolen idea.

Too bad the premise is ridiculous because global warming is a farce....

And I see your point, I guess, but as others have pointed out, nothing is "new" as you see it. Everything is based on other things.

I assume you're talking about the studies that have shown that man hasn't has had nearly as much impact on enviromental changes as we thought, yeah?

Well, bad news time. That doesn't stop the fact that naturally or not, we ARE headed towards a new ice age. The things happen cyclicly naturally. There's no stopping 'em from coming. The only argument is whether or not our presence on this dirtball is having an impact on that cycle.

Those wooly Mamoths that were flash frozen before they could either hit the ground or finish chewing their last mouthfull of green grass weren't driving cars. That didn't save 'em tho.

[TraviSavvy]

Re: BattleField 2142 is a stolen idea.

Good point Wargimp. You're right.. I forgot about the charts that show us on the verge of an ice age (ice cores, yeah?)

I just finished State of Fear, so I know alot more about the global warming deal than I did before.

I was referring more to the idea that our emissions will somehow effect weather as much as some have you believe.

And to make this relevant... BF2142 will be cool, I don't think its a "stolen" idea.

[unlimitedmp]

Re: BattleField 2142 is a stolen idea.

Yeah 2142 was a stolen idea.
Those developers stole all my ideas! Everything good in it was my idea.