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  • gungho

    #16
    Re: Haters Shutup Already!!!!!!

    Maybe all the haterz should go & play a gay game like WoW for a week, that would shut them up

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    • unununium

      #17
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      Software programming is easily two orders of magnitude more difficult than fixing a car. Why do you think software is so crappy? Because programmers are lazy? No, because software development is inherently very hard. Cut DICE some slack, BF2 is an incredibly complex game and it's difficult to change something without breaking something else. This is especially true since DICE Canada is working on the patch and they have to fix someone else's code.

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      • imported_wOoZiE

        #18
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        Originally posted by Night735
        EA is a massive company with a massive payroll. They are making a new game...... WOW they make new games like they are going out of fashion!
        Just becuase they are making a new BF game does not mean they are still not addressing BF2 issues. There would have been a HUGE team working on making BF2, now its done only a small percentage will be working on patches and stuff. What will the rest be doing???? You guessed it, making a new game!
        Stop whining about the game you love and play for hundreds of hours. And let them get on with what they do best. Make great games!

        If they didnt make great games you would NOT be here posting in the first place :p
        Well EA makes alot more games than just BF2, and trust me their aren't too many that are GREAT. And for the small percentage to be working on patches think about all of them working on them so that the next fix could fix everything. Then they wouldnt have to worry about any more support because the game would work perfect and hopefully be perfect. Even though thats almost impossible.

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        • menace-uk-
          Member
          • Apr 2006
          • 615

          #19
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          Originally posted by xxCaptainBlackxx
          First off all They Must <<FIX>> BF2!!!!!!! all bugs and glitches,
          then making those Expansion Packs.

          They dont have to fix anything ptaches are not law its just something companies do

          Il ik the look of this 2142 could be intresting but so does Quake wars will be intresting to see how different these two games will be

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          • [MyIS]Spetsnaz

            #20
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            Originally posted by DEAD_POOL07
            For the love of gods and all that is holy please please PLEASE shutup. I dont understand y u guys think that Dice has to do all these unrealistic things u expect them to do. Their making a new Battlefield for us and what do u do. Bitch and nag about how gay its gunna be. Its not out yet, Theres only one trailer, and theres mechs in it man. I think its a good idea, so far. If u can make a futuristic war game that doesnt look like star wars, then y dont u make a game. Then post a forums and c how many people bitch and complain, and u try everything to fix it but for everytime u make a patch theres even more people bitching. Just shutup already. If u dont like bf2 leave seriously, we dont need u cuz theres over 20,000 people that actually like and praise Dice, that we can game with in this world.
            No one said they do not like BF2.

            If it wasn't for the community you would still have:
            - C4 Chucking
            - Tons upon tons of claymores with no limit per kit.
            - Tanks immune to artillery.
            - Many bugs.
            - Worse netcode.
            - Unusable menu.
            - etc.

            No one is saying DICE or EA are bad -- the whole essense of software developement is to fix bugs that you miss on release. DICE and EA are gods in my book, because they released such an amazing game for all of us to play and enjoy.

            If anything, people are letting DICE & EA know how they feel because they like the BF franchise and want it to be better than it is already (and its pretty damn good now).

            Complaining about complainers, on the other hand, serves no purpose whatsoever.

            Look in the mirror pal

            EDIT: Oh, and I agree with the boycott thing being sort of foolish, but it's the internet and the net is more free in terms of expression than any democracy on the planet. We should cherish that, not resent it.

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            • Nightf1yer
              Member
              • Jun 2007
              • 673

              #21
              Re: Haters Shutup Already!!!!!!

              Originally posted by TheGhost
              This is easily the most retarded argument used to defend game companies. Could I or anyone else here design/produce a better game? That's debatable. Could I actually write the code for a better game? Hell no. Want to know why? BECAUSE I'M NOT A PROFESSIONAL COMPUTER PROGRAMMER! This is what these guys do for a living, they should be able to do a competent job of it.

              If your car breaks down what do you do? You take it to a mechanic to be fixed (unless of course you are one yourself, but for the sake of argument let's say you aren't). Now what happens if you go to pick up your car and find out that not only did they not fix the original problem, but they broke something else? Are you just going to say "It's ok, I couldn't have done it any better myself."?
              I agree with that to a certain extent, as an Audi Master Tech.
              But people pay hundreds sometimes thousands of ££££ ($$$ whatever) to get thier motor fixed! which is a whole different ball game for a £20 game. Which you have probably played for many hours. You can spend £20 on a DVD to find the 2 hours worth was cr@p... You gonna start a huge moan to get your money back? No i dont think so!

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              • imported_wOoZiE

                #22
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                Originally posted by unununium
                Software programming is easily two orders of magnitude more difficult than fixing a car. Why do you think software is so crappy? Because programmers are lazy? No, because software development is inherently very hard. Cut DICE some slack, BF2 is an incredibly complex game and it's difficult to change something without breaking something else. This is especially true since DICE Canada is working on the patch and they have to fix someone else's code.
                But you still can't go and say y wont you go make a better game if this one sucks. We are not professional programmers.

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                • unununium

                  #23
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                  Originally posted by wOoZiE
                  But you still can't go and say y wont you go make a better game if this one sucks. We are not professional programmers.
                  I am.

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                  • Beerman

                    #24
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                    I cant wait for 2142, should be awsome. Dont worry about the bitchers man when it comes out they wont have a say. So that makes me smile.

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                    • Nightf1yer
                      Member
                      • Jun 2007
                      • 673

                      #25
                      Re: Haters Shutup Already!!!!!!

                      Originally posted by wOoZiE
                      Well EA makes alot more games than just BF2, and trust me their aren't too many that are GREAT. And for the small percentage to be working on patches think about all of them working on them so that the next fix could fix everything. Then they wouldnt have to worry about any more support because the game would work perfect and hopefully be perfect. Even though thats almost impossible.
                      That was my point, go into any game shop and count the games made by EA, as i said they are a massive company and TBO dont really need BF2 community to survive (sad as it is) but they are still giving support and addressing issues. Just look at the amount of hate mongering threads here compared to the actual genuine (this should be looked at) threads.
                      EA and DICE must read all this and think why the f**k should we bother, they hate us.
                      All the hate mongering needs to stop or they just wont give *****

                      Originally posted by unununium
                      I am.
                      And your top title is????

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                      • zzDimaxx

                        #26
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                        Originally posted by unununium
                        I am.
                        hmm... you are?
                        Great!! Can we see in the Next 3-4 Years some Great MP game?
                        I will buy it 100% if you will be the part of Team.

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                        • unununium

                          #27
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                          The support for the BF2 community is excellent compared to a lot of other gaming communities. People here seem to think it's a capital offense that the game has so many bugs. DICE is trying their best and putting in a lot of effort to try and make everyone happy and they just get **** on for it. Every time they fix a bug people bitch that they didn't fix bugs X, Y, and Z and I'm really getting sick of it.

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                          • gungho

                            #28
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                            Originally posted by wOoZiE
                            Well EA makes alot more games than just BF2, and trust me their aren't too many that are GREAT. And for the small percentage to be working on patches think about all of them working on them so that the next fix could fix everything. Then they wouldnt have to worry about any more support because the game would work perfect and hopefully be perfect. Even though thats almost impossible.
                            Name me 1 game thats perfectly bug free. Like unununium I write software for a living, its not easy & bug fixing is a pain.

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                            • troybob
                              Member
                              • Sep 2007
                              • 2823

                              #29
                              Re: Haters Shutup Already!!!!!!

                              Originally posted by unununium
                              Software programming is easily two orders of magnitude more difficult than fixing a car. Why do you think software is so crappy? Because programmers are lazy? No, because software development is inherently very hard. Cut DICE some slack, BF2 is an incredibly complex game and it's difficult to change something without breaking something else. This is especially true since DICE Canada is working on the patch and they have to fix someone else's code.
                              1. Software developement isn't easy. Releasing without bugs isn't hard.

                              2. Fixing bugs isn't hard. Admitting that bugs exist doesn't take much effort either.

                              3. It's not someone else code. It's DICE's. Don't use geography as an excuse. If they can't work together, then they shouldn't work together.

                              EA/DICE is running out of excuses as to why you need a hotfix for the hotfix.

                              They don't have their act together. Pure and simple.

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                              • unununium

                                #30
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                                Originally posted by troybob
                                1. Software developement isn't easy. Releasing without bugs isn't hard.
                                2. Fixing bugs isn't hard. Admitting that bugs exist doesn't take much effort either.
                                Do you develop software for a living? If you do, what magical programming language do you use that makes logic bugs easy to find and fix when you have millions of lines of code?
                                Originally posted by troybob
                                3. It's not someone else code. It's DICE's. Don't use geography as an excuse. If they can't work together, then they shouldn't work together.
                                If the entire game (millions of LOC) is written in one studio by one group of people, then sent over to another studio to be fixed by a completely different group of people, they're going to have a hard time since they are unfamiliar with the code.

                                You're doing a poor job of convincing me that you know anything about software development.

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