Blackhawk Must Return

[Ashram]

It's simple, I propose that DICE simply change the Blackhawk back into the fighting machine and support heli it used to be. This includes the thickened armour, and the splash damage on the chain guns.

Why you ask? Because on maps like Oman and Dalian, where the BH is essential to gaining access to the mainland, they seemly aren't up to the task. On either map, 9 out of 10 times, a U.S. team which has been driven into the sea simply can't make it back onto the shore and the opposing team just sits there and waits with their thumbs up their asses.

This is a serious issue, it's happened quite a number of times while I have been playing and it's extremely boring for the defending team, because there are no engagements to be had with the enemy.

I can put up with the BH whores especially if it means that I can actually engage them, rather than watch them explode half way out into the sea due to the unrelenting assualt by my own teams Armour, APCs, and Fighter Aircraft.

Ofcourse, this brings into question a balance issue with respect to the MEC and Chinese Support Heli variants. I say increase their Rate of Fire, and make their splash damage wider than the BH's to compensate for the hellish firepower that can be unleashed by the BH miniguns. Just please bring it back so we can have some fun again.

[Alcorr]

Re: Blackhawk Must Return

It's simple, I propose that DICE simply change the Blackhawk back into the fighting machine and support heli it used to be. This includes the thickened armour, and the splash damage on the chain guns.

Why you ask? Because on maps like Oman and Dalian, where the BH is essential to gaining access to the mainland, they seemly aren't up to the task. On either map, 9 out of 10 times, a U.S. team which has been driven into the sea simply can't make it back onto the shore and the opposing team just sits there and waits with their thumbs up their asses.

This is a serious issue, it's happened quite a number of times while I have been playing and it's extremely boring for the defending team, because there are no engagements to be had with the enemy.

I can put up with the BH whores especially if it means that I can actually engage them, rather than watch them explode half way out into the sea due to the unrelenting assualt by my own teams Armour, APCs, and Fighter Aircraft.

Ofcourse, this brings into question a balance issue with respect to the MEC and Chinese Support Heli variants. I say increase their Rate of Fire, and make their splash damage wider than the BH's to compensate for the hellish firepower that can be unleashed by the BH miniguns. Just please bring it back so we can have some fun again.

AMEN!

They need to bring back the BH abilities before especially the armor...they are just so easy to down these days.

And to counter that, bring other transport helis to equivelent armor stats AND buff their guns to splash damage and increased fire rate.

It used to be BH ownage. Now its everyone owning the BH.

[Keith Maniac]

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If the BH are to be "restored" then give BOTH teams the Blackhawk. The flying sportsarena on MEC side is total trash when compared to the old BH.

[=DarkJediKnight=]

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I agree. Restore the blackhawk and balance the other teams choppers with the same firepower.

[XmetallicaXguitarstX]

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make a poll

[[3MD]D|Cpl.Hustler_Baby]

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Give the HiP and the Fat lady mini guns and thicker armour. Problem with balance between sides solved.
Give the miniguns splash damage but keep the armour the same (they are transport choppers, not the attack helos of pre 1.2).

[ZemonerZ]

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I want to play songhua stalemate again!
Bring back the blackhawk

[JarEme]

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I like the armour idea, but I certainly don't agree with restoring the blackhawk's old firepower or giving each team a 1.12 blackhawk equivalent. Before the reductions, on maps like Mashtuur or Songhua, the blackhawk was the entire game and it was painfully lame for those not up in the air.

The USMC being pushed back to the carrier is a problem though. When that happens, it's also painfully lame for anyone not in the air. I think the solution is reworking those maps though and not overpowering the blackhawk again. Afterall, the blackhawk is on more maps than carrier maps.

[Paas]

Re: Blackhawk Must Return

It's simple, I propose that DICE simply change the Blackhawk back into the fighting machine and support heli it used to be. This includes the thickened armour, and the splash damage on the chain guns.

Why you ask? Because on maps like Oman and Dalian, where the BH is essential to gaining access to the mainland, they seemly aren't up to the task. On either map, 9 out of 10 times, a U.S. team which has been driven into the sea simply can't make it back onto the shore and the opposing team just sits there and waits with their thumbs up their asses.

This is a serious issue, it's happened quite a number of times while I have been playing and it's extremely boring for the defending team, because there are no engagements to be had with the enemy.

I can put up with the BH whores especially if it means that I can actually engage them, rather than watch them explode half way out into the sea due to the unrelenting assualt by my own teams Armour, APCs, and Fighter Aircraft.

Ofcourse, this brings into question a balance issue with respect to the MEC and Chinese Support Heli variants. I say increase their Rate of Fire, and make their splash damage wider than the BH's to compensate for the hellish firepower that can be unleashed by the BH miniguns. Just please bring it back so we can have some fun again.

I say give the Blackhawk more armor than it used to have; it should be allowed to take 6 Anti-Air missiles and Machine Gun Fire. Of course TV Guided and Jet's could still take one out, it would just take Jets more than one pass.

Yet. With this increase in armor the Mini-Guns should be replaced with mounted .50 (Hummer). The Blackhawk needs to be a flying troop transport. Not a flying turret.

I think the APC should be treated exactly the same. Decrease the firepower (Give is Anti-Tank rocket the mimic the ground kit, and a .50-BMG). Yet it should be able to take outrageous amounts of damage. It should operate almost strictly as a troop transport with limited ability to defend its self (that should be up to the "troops" that are being "transported" by it)

{WP}Paas

[Bizzare inc.]

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Thats the thing tho, anyone can 'own' in a black hawk, all you had to do was point the gun near an enemy & hes dead easy, i agree that the BH is now usless for killing, but i don't think they should bring it to full power, maybe just make the guns a bit more powerful as it's silly how hard it is to kill now, i've had enemys prone & i've 100% shot directly at them & it does nothing.

Or they bring the Black Hawk to full power & increase the distance of the AA's. Mec heli is still powerful if you have Spec-Ops in the back.

[big_sammy_b]

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id say yes restore it back to pre 1.2 but also make the MEC and PLA choppers equally as powerful in both armour and the strength of the guns.

[Prince]

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Agreed. The most fun I have ever had on BF2 was being a gunner in a blackhawk. It felt so real when you worked as a squad.

[vbl]

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More armor wouldn't bother me since the guns require actually aiming skill now.

[HowieMandel]

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dont you remember how many posts were here, when the BH had all that armor and mini guns that kicked it? God, search back, if the forums keep stuff that long. There was tons and tons of post relating to how "gay" it was having the BH the fighting machine you all want.
Trust me...you dont want the ol' blackhawk back. I think the BH is perfect right now. It can get in, and get out, and give "SOME" support. As it was, it could sit at a flag and cap it no matter what was shooting at it. It hovered, capped then went to another, rinse repeat. Now its used to do, what I believe it was meant to do. Get in, get out, support. Its not supposed to be this tank in the air...
BLah Bad move if dice ever did this.

[Alcorr]

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I don't agree. Ive seen guys shoot the BH directly at me now and it doesn't do anywhere near the dmg it did before.

I would be fine to move all choppers including MEC and PLA choppers to 1.12 BH stats...