Blackhawk Must Return

[bjack]

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I actually spent a great deal of time playing AT kits because I ended up on the MEC side and hunted many blackhawks pre-1.2. I felt the nerf was needed, however they nerfed the candle at both ends, so to speak. The guns should be awesome and they just suck now. Make the guns a little better imo. I don't think blackhawks should be the flying tanks they used to be. It was frustrating sometimes being cut down by them, as I usually played opposed to them, but the current blackhawk is so boring. It's exciting to have a threat.

Bottom line: even though I was usually on the receiving end, boost their guns.

[WDA_Endless954]

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The Blackhawk used to be a flying tank. It was markedly unfair.

I like the fact that they are easier to take down, BUT now their guns are useless. Bring the guns up to 1.12 strength, leave the helicopter itself at 1.2 strength.

[HowieMandel]

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The thing about the old blackhawk, aside from the obvious things, is we all forget that it created a very, very frustrating form of playing the game.

Ring Around The Rosie Type Gameplay was way out of hand.
Anyone remember that? I mean all the BH did was go from flag to flag, cap, and move on. Oh, and also it would kill anything that was hanging around to defend the flag, in the process as well.
Making the copters stronger will only bring back ring around the rosie gameplay. And if you take 5 minutes and really think about how it "USED TO BE", i dont think you want that part of the game back.
I mean, really ring around the rosie dont happen much anymore. Or its not as evident.

[Scort]

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I say restore it to <1.2 standard, but drop the miniguns, replace them with .50 cals - slower ROF should even things out then.

Just MO.

Scort.

[Jesse]

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Where's my "Restore the Blackhawk to retail release status" option? The game is getting too easy and I want my +12 points for being the only person on my team that realizes I can actually kill the flag hopping Blackhawks. Now the Blackhawks just sorta buzz around with 1 person in it for no apparent reason, no sport in hunting them anymore, it's like taking a deer, chopping 3 of it's legs off, putting a cowbell on it, a flashlight on it, and expecting it to be difficult to hunt it. :p

[Chris_Redfield]

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ROFL Jesse, Deer example...

[HABO3]

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IN REAL LIFE hurr hurr...

The transport helis would drop their troops off in a safe location and then the team would hump several kilometers to their objective. If anyone thinks a blackhawk should be allowed to ****in touch down 10 meters away from a flag and expect to survive then you're a big dummy head. With that being said the real problem is there are too many maps with linear paths which make hunting blackhawks/flying cows really easy for mobile aa/helis/jets. If they gave everybody inside the transport helis the same danger boundaries as jets then you could actually come in on the enemy at their flanks but even then how much chance do you have because OH! "ENEMY CHOPPER SPOTTED! ENEMY CHOPPER SPOTTED! HOSTILE CHOPPER INBOUND, OVER!" enemy commander gives you away then the jets come in and splash you out of the sky. :hmm:

[HowieMandel]

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but seriously......

i dont see whats so hard about deer hunting now.

spread some stuff that makes the deer come to you. ( some jackasses, actually prepare months in advance by getting the deer to come feed to the same planed spot) Then you take this rock, and throw it at the deer to the speed of something thats faster then mach 3, and slam it. All while it actually doesnt know its being hunted.
I've never hunted, and never plan to. I mean if im so desperate to feed my family meat, the store is about 4 blocks away. Hunting was a necessity oh about, 200 years ago. Now its a "sport".
But again, going after something that doesnt even know your going after it, with a high powered weapon.... Damn what a sport.
I can see it now,

"MONDAY NIGHT DEER HUNTING, FOLLOWED BY DODGEBALL, ON THE OCHO"

[Crimson87]

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As it stands now the Armor of the black hawk must be increased in order for them to survivew long enough to get troops on the ground from carriers. Oman/Dalian/Dragon/WAKE.... Because the armor has been reduced so bad, its dang near impossible for USMC to win the round let alone get on the ground for a beach head. I wish there was a win/loss ratio counter for all the servers with these maps because thats what it would say.

I do not agree with the damage being increased on their weapons. It should stay the same for the sake of maps such as Mastaur and Zatar. The guns are what made that chopper such an ownership weapon. They should not be allowed to return to keep balance.

And yes I love those guns too. I even enjoyed getting massive K/D ratios with other teammates in mashtaur. WHAA... DEAL WITH IT. Balance comes first.

[DarkHorse2160]

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More armor wouldn't bother me since the guns require actually aiming skill now.

The guns don't simply require aiming now! They require devine guidance! It's F-ing ridiculous!

It's now like flying a balsa wood and crepe paper chopper, armed with blow guns (cuz they really BLOW)!

[HowieMandel]

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i'd go for a 1/4 % increase in gun strength and armor. Any more then that, and you eleviate some of the fun factor for other classes/kits/soldier etc.

[Alcorr]

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It's now like flying a balsa wood and crepe paper chopper, armed with blow guns (cuz they really BLOW)!

LOL how true.

[imported_Panic.fo]

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More armour on the BH.. possibly reinstate the firepower..

But for f*cksake put the same guns on the skycow!!

Why on earth is there such a difference in firepower on the two in the first place?

You have the BH on one side, sleek.. an icon of modern warfare/cavalry etc.. bigass guns on the sides..

And on the other side you have an "airvessel" that looks like a f*cken turkey flying with it's arse first and it handles worse than a bumpercar on a skiing slope!

And it could just as well shoot tampons as those bb machineguns..
I've never seen anyone get killed by those yet either

Like someone already has said in this thread, make the two equal and the problem would be solved and we would still have aircavalry with a little Oomphf

[Ghilleman]

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Since people think that the problem with the BH's wepaons isn't their power, but how they can't hit the broad side of a hanger now, why shouldn't EA/DICE put in tracer rounds? The strength will be balanced, and you will be able to hit stuff. (i mentioned this before.)

[fore a lot]

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Everybody see the 5CMs in 1.2 changed back to 2CMs in 1.21?
so let's keep bugging EA maybe our good old BH days will be back.
It was my happy hours(also my gunners) when flying BH around Songhua.