For all plane whores.

[Chris_Redfield]

Re: For all plane whores.

So much for the 100% kill rate in real life. And if we would talking about Patriots....

STA shoot-to-hit rate isnt all that great.

Anyone has facts on ATA missile efficiency? (That isnt biased, because even Kattspyas material is.)

[KickPhucker]

Re: For all plane whores.

AA is still about timing and skill..good pilots know where the fixed AA is and it is (or should be if you're worth anything as a pilot) the pilots #1 priority on his list of: Stuff to Blow-Up.

Planewhore, here's an honest question for you: If you love flying so much and hate the new patch so much...why don't you just play a flight simulator? There's plenty of good flight sims out there to fit whatever type of aircraft you're into. So why don't you?

I love the new AA and I shoot planes and helos down now on a regular basis. Sure I still get killed too, but it's by the good pilots who come gunning for me because they know where the AA is. Good pilots can still own the AA, it's just the noobs who get blasted to toast.

Case in point: I was playing Wake the other day and I went 34-1 as an aviator. This is way better than I normally do. Why did I do so well then? The other team was too nubish to man the AA against me.

2nd Point: I was playing Wake today and manning the AA and a pilot named Reonuf (I think I got the spelling correctly) killed me 4 times in the AA before I could get a shot off. I finally shot him down when he neglected me to bomb another target. How did he own me so well? He made me (the AA) his #1 priority and never came at me the same way twice in a row. Hats off to you Reonuf wherever you are......you are a truly talented and creative flyboy.:salute:

[Rusty975]

Re: For all plane whores.

I'm with Emoticon on this one, get rid of A2A missile lock altogether. G2A I think should stay pretty much as it is otherwise nothing would deter planes from attacking ground armour with missiles and bombs:hmm:

As regards the original question I feel a little disapointed with 1.2 simply because I suck at infantry and flying planes was all I could do (no need for the violins but thanks anyway). If you're in a J10 it's still ok, you can still avoid other planes missiles but if you're in the F35 against a J10 with a reasonable pilot it's no contest anymore. The different turning abilities between the two planes (which was always there) has become much more important now because of the better A2A missile tracking.

On the upside I'm now using the PKM on the ground and can actually shoot people, but that's another topic.

[Chris_Redfield]

Re: For all plane whores.

KickPhucker, guys, please dont ever make such questions/suggestions on a BF2 forum. Seriously. If were playing BF2, the flight aspect of it, dont tell us to run to another game just because youre not content that people dont like some elements from it. I like BF2 flight because it gives a simple atmosphere to develop your skills and the fight/flight is more enjoyable because its TECHNICALLY not that demanding. ie, no preflight checklists to go through, no 1 hour flights until you get to action and whatnot.

I dont ask you to come with me outside after you beat me in Street Fighter 2, I advise you to not send anyone to try a "real game".

[KickPhucker]

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LOL. No, I guess you just cant handle the fact that the people with the "pilots suck. LOLOLOL" attitude arent here.

Hell for the first time I see two good pilots taunting each other with humour and respect.

Every scorehungry pube that sees a master player has something unoriginal and lame to say. How about some respect?


Guys- the "STINGERS NEED MORE SKILLS" is sarcasm. How do you miss it, is beyond my comprehension.

What was that Chris Redfield? I couldn't hear you with Planewhore's D1CK in your mouth.

[Chris_Redfield]

Re: For all plane whores.

I guess that means your mouth is stuffed by the majority of anti-air aspect peoples manhoods? Nice try. Better luck next time.

[KickPhucker]

Re: For all plane whores.

KickPhucker, guys, please dont ever make such questions/suggestions on a BF2 forum. Seriously. If were playing BF2, the flight aspect of it, dont tell us to run to another game just because youre not content that people dont like some elements from it. I like BF2 flight because it gives a simple atmosphere to develop your skills and the fight/flight is more enjoyable because its TECHNICALLY not that demanding. ie, no preflight checklists to go through, no 1 hour flights until you get to action and whatnot.

I dont ask you to come with me outside after you beat me in Street Fighter 2, I advise you to not send anyone to try a "real game".

For the record I'll step outside with if that's what you're asking but hey....I was just asking a question that's no reason for physical assault is it?
Planewhore just bitches constantly about the new AA and how flying isn't fun anymore. Well.....this isn't a flight simulator.....if you don't like the flying in BF2 why don't you play a flight sim?

And don't give me that noob crap about "I don't want to have to do the realistic requirements like having to fly for a whole HOUR before I get into action. You sound like the nubs that don't like America's Army because they won't (or can't) pass the special forces or medic training.
So my question to PlaneWhore again is: How come you don't play a flight sim?

[Chris_Redfield]

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Planewhore just bitches constantly about the new AA and how flying isn't fun anymore. Well.....this isn't a flight simulator.....if you don't like the flying in BF2 why don't you play a flight sim?

People bitched about air superiority, they were advised to play AA or CSS. MAYBE, just MAYBE youre playing the wrong game yourself?

[KickPhucker]

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Ever since I stopped playing DC and started playing BF2 these missiles have frustrated the hell out of me. I hate being right on someones tail knowing if the missiles would fire straight I could have killed someone 5 times over. Instead I watch them get within an inch of the other player and flake off making impossible turns and nailing teammates. People argue that not having seekers is not realistic but I've never seen a missile on TV do a sharp angled zigzag before...

While they are at it they can fix the hit reticle change on planes as well.

Go back to playing DC.

[KickPhucker]

Re: For all plane whores.

People bitched about air superiority, they were advised to play AA or CSS. MAYBE, just MAYBE youre playing the wrong game yourself?

It seems to me there were more people bitching about the air superiority than defending it. In fact I did a decisive study into the matter and it turns out that 94.3% of people didn't like the way that planes and AA were in the previous patch and now 100% of people agree that the game is much better with improved AA, lowered armor for aircraft, and lower missle count for helos.

END OF BITCHING. EVERYONE AGREES GAME IS FINE NOW.

[KickPhucker]

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For the record I believe that Chris_Redfield is the alter-ego of PlaneWhore.

Whether you agree or not will get you a roundhouse kick to the face.

[The Soup Nazi]

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I posted a flying session that covered the entire round (until about 40 tickets left) in a previous thread that was uncut and unedited. If anyone wants to see it, you'll find it here:

http://graphicintegrity.net - The Aviator's Bible (under construction)

Note: I make no claims whatsoever to be "the best" BF2 pilot. I do, however, know how to take down enemy planes and choppers, bomb armor, and evade when necessary. And, since PlaneWhore wanted to see a video that is uncut, here's his chance.

You'll notice that the video gets choppy at times. That's because I run at 1920x1200 and fraps doesn't seem to like it so well.

Watch it if you want- your comments are welcomed. I got the feeling from the last time that I posted it that only Wargimp watched it. I'm hoping for a bit more feedback this time around.

[Chris_Redfield]

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It seems to me there were more people bitching about the air superiority than defending it. In fact I did a decisive study into the matter and it turns out that 94.3% of people didn't like the way that planes and AA were in the previous patch and now 100% of people agree that the game is much better with improved AA, lowered armor for aircraft, and lower missle count for helos.

END OF BITCHING. EVERYONE AGREES GAME IS FINE NOW.

I believe this was a study about 3 ex CS players? You and the other two 13 year olds?

maranello, as a moderator can confirm that this accound is not PWs alter ego. Just as I specified in another thread. I dont agree with PW, I disagree with YOU.

[Chris_Redfield]

Re: For all plane whores.

I posted a flying session that covered the entire round (until about 40 tickets left) in a previous thread that was uncut and unedited. If anyone wants to see it, you'll find it here:

http://graphicintegrity.net - The Aviator's Bible (under construction)

Note: I make no claims whatsoever to be "the best" BF2 pilot. I do, however, know how to take down enemy planes and choppers, bomb armor, and evade when necessary. And, since PlaneWhore wanted to see a video that is uncut, here's his chance.

You'll notice that the video gets choppy at times. That's because I run at 1920x1200 and fraps doesn't seem to like it so well.

Watch it if you want- your comments are welcomed. I got the feeling from the last time that I posted it that only Wargimp watched it. I'm hoping for a bit more feedback this time around.

I watched it Soup, I remember I had a lot of issues with it, mainly its ATA aspect, but other than that its a quality video.

[The Soup Nazi]

Re: For all plane whores.

Yeah, it wasn't one of my best rounds, but when it comes to recording, it's hard to know when to record and when not to. If I do decide to record, it seems like my game goes to crap and I can't hit anything- or there's nothing to shoot.

Match that with my 8 mbit Comcast connection that's only good while I'm at work and you've got a very painful combination...

Thanks for watching, Chris.