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  • BRIPS

    #1

    Why do the guns suck so bad??

    I've played and enjoyed every version of Battlefield. I played 1942 and all of it's expansion packs. I played most of the mods including Desert Combat and my personal favorite, Eve of Destruction. I also played alot of Battlefield Vietnam.

    Until a couple of weeks ago, I hadn't played any new PC games for a couple years because I had an old PC. About 3 weeks ago I built a brand new gaming PC. I wanted to be able to play all the latest games with full video settings. But the one game I had in mind most when building my PC was BF2! I love the format of the battlefield games and looked forward to playing with some spectacular graphics.

    So....I started playing BF2 3 weeks ago. It LOOKS awesome. I love some of the new gameplay features like sprinting and the commander mode. Great job on those DICE!

    But....WHY DO THE GUNS SUCK SO BAD? I couldn't believe how ineffective ALL of the guns in this game are. The guns were more effective in EVERY version and mod of battlefield I've ever played before. BF2 guns spray so much it looks like you are throwing a handful of rocks at any target over 15 ft away. HINT: People can run and jump and go prone like a bunch of monkeys because you've ruined the guns.

    If you were in a modern war and there were a bunch of bad guys down the street, would you run across the street to the other side? No, because they would shoot and kill you. In this game you can because you know that over 50 ft. there's almost no chance that guy is going to kill you.

    I've always enjoyed using infantry combat tactics. In this game the element of surprise or superior movement is ruined because the "victim" always has a chance to retalitate due to the worthless guns in this game. Why be patient and flank the enemy line? Since you can't be effective with a gun you will be killed soon after you show yourself anyways.

    DICE, please drastically reduce the spray on the guns. It completely ruins the infantry combat portion of the game...which IMO, should be the best part of your game. There are only so many vehicles on any map. It should be still be a fun game if all you have is a gun and your wits. As it is now, you are just a victim for a plane or armor whore. And if you do manage to get involved with infantry combat the rediculous spray of the guns makes your life short regardless of skill level.

    If you can unload a clip into a guy's chest before he sees you and he can just turn around kill you instantly with a lucky shot to the head then there is a MAJOR problem with the game.

    When a Operation Clean Sweep copilot can just push a button and register all opposing armor useless, there is a MAJOR problem with the game.

    The problem? IT'S NOT FUN.

    As a faithful Battlefield player I am totally disappointed with BF2. DICE forgot the most important gameplay element of all......FUN

    To other Battlefield players: are there any games or devolopers out there that actually get it? I'm looking for a FUN battlefield type of game to play on my brand new rig. Oh, I tried CS Source and it is more fun than BF2. But I miss the wide open Battlefield format. Any suggestions?
  • rombaft

    #2
    Re: Why do the guns suck so bad??

    the guns don't suck man, someone saying that is someone who doesn't have played many online games , it isn't unreal tournament or something pal , just leanr the weapons a bit , also for someone who played BF1942 , well, strange , because in BF1942 the BAR , was way harder to shoot with, and those weapons where fine for you ?

    ever played CS ?? see what you will think about that guns

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    • Loonyz

      #3
      Re: Why do the guns suck so bad??

      They didn't have the same body armor in 1942 or Vietnam...

      I agree, Bunny Hops are lame!

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      • -GRimm-

        #4
        Re: Why do the guns suck so bad??

        Obviously you don't use your iron sites at all and don't have the new patches.

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        • BRIPS

          #5
          Re: Why do the guns suck so bad??

          The guns do suck. This game is a like handicap for other versions. Go play a game of BF Vietnam after playing this game for a bit. The M16 feels like freaking laser compared to these worthless spray guns.

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          • unununium

            #6
            Re: Why do the guns suck so bad??

            Don't go full-auto with the guns, shoot in bursts or single shots. Also, the unlock weapons are much more effective compared to the guns you start with.

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            • BRIPS

              #7
              Re: Why do the guns suck so bad??

              Use my iron sites....you mean zoom? Yeah, I zoom. In fact, I crouch, zoom, and burst fire.....the way you are supposed to do it.

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              • vbl

                #8
                Re: Why do the guns suck so bad??

                Defensive bunny hopping is stupid, but the guns really don't suck.

                I played BF1942, Forgotten Hope, Desert Combat, Battlefield Vietnam, and BF2 - while it takes time to adjust, the guns can be very deadly.

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                • BRIPS

                  #9
                  Re: Why do the guns suck so bad??

                  Ok, so what's the adjustment? I'm used to having guns that perform somewhat realistically at RANGE.

                  Over 20 feet the spray pattern of these weapons is pathetic and is nothing like reality.

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                  • unununium

                    #10
                    Re: Why do the guns suck so bad??

                    I don't know, it seems like you're expecting to be godlike at the game as soon as you start playing it because you played all of the other Battlefield games. Battlefield 2 is completely different to all of the others, and you should treat it that way. Just give it some time and keep playing and you'll get the hang of it. I recommend playing on 16-player maps or on Karkand or Sharki if you want to get better with infantry.

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                    • Jesse

                      #11
                      Re: Why do the guns suck so bad??

                      Originally posted by ||bfa||variable
                      Defensive bunny hopping is stupid, but the guns really don't suck.

                      I played BF1942, Forgotten Hope, Desert Combat, Battlefield Vietnam, and BF2 - while it takes time to adjust, the guns can be very deadly.
                      I don't count a gun having such a deviation at 30 feet that you can be 45 degrees or more off your target and still have a decent chance of hitting them as deadly, I simply call it retarded.

                      The PKM long-ranged rifle is the exception though post-1.2 :p

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                      • unununium

                        #12
                        Re: Why do the guns suck so bad??

                        Originally posted by BRIPS
                        When a Operation Clean Sweep copilot can just push a button and register all opposing armor useless, there is a MAJOR problem with the game.
                        If you're having trouble with air vehicles may I suggest AA?

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                        • ACE4U

                          #13
                          Re: Why do the guns suck so bad??

                          Do you have the lastest patches. The accuracy of the weapons have dramaticly improved.

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                          • BRIPS

                            #14
                            Re: Why do the guns suck so bad??

                            No, I'm expecting the assault guns to to actually be able to kill someone at range. It's not a handful of rocks. It's a modern assault rifle. When you burst someone 3-4 times from 200 ft away he should be dead. In this game you hit him with only a couple bullets because of the completely unrealistic spray patterns.

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                            • WolfAlmighty
                              Artillery Magnet
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 2113

                              #15
                              Re: Why do the guns suck so bad??

                              After playing a LOT of BF:V prior to the release of BF2 it takes a bit getting used to. Single shot is your friend, and crouching in BF2 is almost worthless since insta-proning is the new rage. Unlike BF:V you don't have to wait to get the accuracy bonus from proning, it's instantaneous and it doesn't mess up your view. So prone, ironsights, single shots is really the only 'magic formula' for BF2 infantry combat. Of course, you'll have to learn how long to wait between single shots, how close you have to be for full auto to be effective, when to use burst, etc. but that all comes with practice.

                              ~Wolfgang

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