What is your overall small arms accuracy?

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  • Alcorr

    #76
    Re: What is your overall small arms accuracy?

    Originally posted by ||bfa||variable
    Your math does not account for the fact (mine didn't either) that, for example, carbines are inherently more accurate, that LMGs are inherently less accurate, or that sniper rifles fire far fewer bullets (on the average) than an assault rifle. Nor does it account for the fact that a sniper rifle bullet is "worth" more than an LMG bullet. It's completely insensitive to the distinctions in the samples it's measuring, and thus its value in determining aggregate effectiveness (as in this thread) is very low.

    Let's use a simple example:

    Sniper Rifle: 2,400 hits / 3,200 shots = 75% (well above average for the weapon)

    LMG: 5,000 hits / 30,000 shots = 17% (about average for the weapon)

    Using your math:
    2,400 + 5,000 hits / 3,200 + 30,000 shots = 22% "small arms accuracy"

    22% would lead anyone to believe that this player is a slightly below average shooter, when in fact he's an exceptional shot. He just happens to use an inherently inaccurate gun in the LMG.

    When we look in our thread and see someone's percentage, we aren't getting a realistic measure of that person's actual capabilities because we don't know how often he/she uses weapons that are inherently accuracte vs inherently inaccurate. There's nothing in your math (or BF2s' math) that accounts for these factors.

    You count a 95 damage bullet from a sniper rifle as just as inherently accurate as a 19 damage bullet from an SMG - even though we all know that those projectiles and weapons are completely different.

    What he said.

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    • Lord_Phelps

      #77
      Re: What is your overall small arms accuracy?

      i can't understand how this has got so complicated, surely all it takes is llok at you samll arms accuracy percentage on either BFHQ or bf2s.com (or the like), read it off and then write it on your post.

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      • Lugal317

        #78
        Re: What is your overall small arms accuracy?

        Originally posted by fore a lot
        19% which is lower then most of you maybe it's because i suck and i don't snipe.

        This number will get lower since i found out spreading 1.2 PKM is alot fun.
        Don't worry its no calculation of skill. It can vary from player to player depending on style. Someone that loves laying down cover fire will have a crap accuracy, but that doesn't mean he sucks.

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        • Lugal317

          #79
          Re: What is your overall small arms accuracy?

          Originally posted by Lord_Phelps
          i can't understand how this has got so complicated, surely all it takes is llok at you samll arms accuracy percentage on either BFHQ or bf2s.com (or the like), read it off and then write it on your post.
          Originally Posted by ||bfa||variable
          36.59%

          By the way, BF2S calculates its accuracy wrong. Remember to add up all of your small arms percentages and then divide by the number of values - in this case, 13.
          Thats how it got so complicated.

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          • Lord_Phelps

            #80
            Re: What is your overall small arms accuracy?

            Originally posted by Lugal317
            Thats how it got so complicated.
            lol !

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            • vbl

              #81
              Re: What is your overall small arms accuracy?

              Originally posted by Lugal317
              Don't worry its no calculation of skill. It can vary from player to player depending on style. Someone that loves laying down cover fire will have a crap accuracy, but that doesn't mean he sucks.
              I don't understand why we're comparing a statistic that doesn't mean anything.

              Let's start a better trend for comparing "shootable" weapons:

              Carbines: 30.20%
              Assault Rifles: 26.30%
              Shotguns: 18.06%
              Pistols: 28.52%
              AT/AA: 50.48%
              Light Machine Guns: 20.48%
              Submachine Guns: 21.81%
              Sniper Rifles: 54.60%
              Grenade Launcher Attachment: 66.32%

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              • vbl

                #82
                Re: What is your overall small arms accuracy?

                Originally posted by Lord_Phelps
                i can't understand how this has got so complicated, surely all it takes is llok at you samll arms accuracy percentage on either BFHQ or bf2s.com (or the like), read it off and then write it on your post.
                Because it's a useless measure.

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                • Lugal317

                  #83
                  Re: What is your overall small arms accuracy?

                  Originally posted by ||bfa||variable
                  I don't understand why we're comparing a statistic that doesn't mean anything.

                  Let's start a better trend for comparing "shootable" weapons:

                  Carbines: 30.20%
                  Assault Rifles: 26.30%
                  Shotguns: 18.06%
                  Pistols: 28.52%
                  AT/AA: 50.48%
                  Light Machine Guns: 20.48%
                  Submachine Guns: 21.81%
                  Sniper Rifles: 54.60%
                  Grenade Launcher Attachment: 66.32%
                  I love how AT and AA are classified in the same category. Its not like AT's lock onto tanks. In fact... why would you even have an AA accuracy rating?

                  Fun stuff.

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                  • Verzili
                    Member
                    • Apr 2006
                    • 969

                    #84
                    Re: What is your overall small arms accuracy?

                    Originally posted by ||bfa||variable
                    I don't understand why we're comparing a statistic that doesn't mean anything.

                    Let's start a better trend for comparing "shootable" weapons:

                    Carbines: 30.20%
                    Assault Rifles: 26.30%
                    Shotguns: 18.06%
                    Pistols: 28.52%
                    AT/AA: 50.48%
                    Light Machine Guns: 20.48%
                    Submachine Guns: 21.81%
                    Sniper Rifles: 54.60%
                    Grenade Launcher Attachment: 66.32%
                    lol yeh mutch beter thats what i tryed in my 1st post individual weapon % then we dont need to add it up in any other way.

                    VOTE's for the pole to be changed to individual small arms accuracy

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                    • Guidon666

                      #85
                      Re: What is your overall small arms accuracy?

                      My accuracy is at least 90%.... that is hitting the ground though.
                      Sometimes someone makes the mistake of running in front of my gun.... but it doesnt happen that often.

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                      • [3SA]D|Sgt.Colinloves
                        Member
                        • Sep 2005
                        • 894

                        #86
                        Re: What is your overall small arms accuracy?

                        BFHQ and BF2s are the same (or should I say work out the same)

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                        • vbl

                          #87
                          Re: What is your overall small arms accuracy?

                          Originally posted by Lugal317
                          I love how AT and AA are classified in the same category. Its not like AT's lock onto tanks. In fact... why would you even have an AA accuracy rating?

                          Fun stuff.
                          Copied from BF2S.

                          I assume that your silence is acknowledgement and acceptance of my previous post about the value of this measure. Glad you agree.

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                          • Lord_Phelps

                            #88
                            Re: What is your overall small arms accuracy?

                            Originally posted by ||bfa||variable
                            I don't understand why we're comparing a statistic that doesn't mean anything.

                            Let's start a better trend for comparing "shootable" weapons:

                            Carbines: 30.20%
                            Assault Rifles: 26.30%
                            Shotguns: 18.06%
                            Pistols: 28.52%
                            AT/AA: 50.48%
                            Light Machine Guns: 20.48%
                            Submachine Guns: 21.81%
                            Sniper Rifles: 54.60%
                            Grenade Launcher Attachment: 66.32%
                            You should to add the number of kills to that for each weapon as well to give a truer view.

                            So mine is :

                            Carbines: 24.90% - 414 Kills
                            Assault Rifles: 22.31% - 876 Kills
                            Shotguns: 9.33% - 292 Kills
                            Pistols: 17.88% - 365 Kills
                            AT/AA: 49.34% - 197 Kills
                            Light Machine Guns: 12.20% - 79 Kills
                            Submachine Guns: 12.22% - 18 Kills
                            Sniper Rifles: 54.85% - 7,196 Kills
                            Grenade Launcher Attachment: 57.14% - 123 Kills

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                            • vbl

                              #89
                              Re: What is your overall small arms accuracy?

                              Originally posted by Lord_Phelps
                              You should to add the number of kills to that for each weapon as well to give a truer view.

                              So mine is :

                              Carbines: 24.90% - 414 Kills
                              Assault Rifles: 22.31% - 876 Kills
                              Shotguns: 9.33% - 292 Kills
                              Pistols: 17.88% - 365 Kills
                              AT/AA: 49.34% - 197 Kills
                              Light Machine Guns: 12.20% - 79 Kills
                              Submachine Guns: 12.22% - 18 Kills
                              Sniper Rifles: 54.85% - 7,196 Kills
                              Grenade Launcher Attachment: 57.14% - 123 Kills
                              Good idea. But you should also include time used to get a sense of the time it took to get those kills. It'd be nice if we could wipe this thread and start over with the new model.

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                              • [3SA]D|Sgt.Colinloves
                                Member
                                • Sep 2005
                                • 894

                                #90
                                Re: What is your overall small arms accuracy?

                                I used to play in paintball mode. Thats where you are pick a target then shoot it. Sadly BF2 dont take this into account. Otherwise your see the holes in the leafs and trees.

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