R.I.P. Blackhawk - 2/14/2006

[SpeedNut[CV]]

Re: R.I.P. Blackhawk - 2/14/2006

The problem is that they ramped up the accuracy of the AA to Help hit the jets, which is good, and the guns on the BH weaker, which is okay. The unfortunate change was that the HP of the Blackhawk and attack chopper seemed to change too much in the weaker direction. I could definitely see the 1.2x patch of the patch up the HP back some on both to help make it more realistic. I think they got it about 70% there, the part they missed the mark was exactly how much HP to give.

[Alcorr]

Re: R.I.P. Blackhawk - 2/14/2006

The problem is that they ramped up the accuracy of the AA to Help hit the jets, which is good, and the guns on the BH weaker, which is okay. The unfortunate change was that the HP of the Blackhawk and attack chopper seemed to change too much in the weaker direction. I could definitely see the 1.2x patch of the patch up the HP back some on both to help make it more realistic. I think they got it about 70% there, the part they missed the mark was exactly how much HP to give.

So you are fine with AA hitting 100% of the time and taking zero skill to use?

[Talus]

Re: R.I.P. Blackhawk - 2/14/2006

So don't talk about how nerfing the BH is promoting teamwork... All it does is allow a single person to take down a whole teamwork oriented squad

teamwork oriented squad...don't make me laugh...for the MOST part, those were POINT oriented squads.

You want your teamwork oriented chopper squad? Take out the Mi-17 or Z-8!!! Nobody wants to use 'em and nobody bothers to try and shoot them down because they don't feel like they're a threat.

There..problem solved.

[Talus]

Re: R.I.P. Blackhawk - 2/14/2006

So you are fine with AA hitting 100% of the time and taking zero skill to use?

I missed an attack chopper with both missiles today and he didn't use chaff.

Don't over dramatize.

[Fee501st]

Re: R.I.P. Blackhawk - 2/14/2006

I think the other choppers needed to town down a tad, but they should a left the blackhawk alone. The Chaingun was awesome and should be feared

[Talus]

Re: R.I.P. Blackhawk - 2/14/2006

I think the other choppers needed to town down a tad, but they should a left the blackhawk alone. The Chaingun was awesome and should be feared

Miss your easy points do ya?

[Fee501st]

Re: R.I.P. Blackhawk - 2/14/2006

Miss your easy points do ya?

No i never use the BH that much just on maps where the americans start on the carrier you can look at my stats and see i dont have many chopper kills, the Chaingun in reallife is an awesome weapon and should be in BF2


http://bf2s.com/player/Fee501sr/ lol 140 kills in a chopper dayum i suck lol

[Talus]

Re: R.I.P. Blackhawk - 2/14/2006

And the m95 would cause a man to explode no matter where you shot him...but for the sake of balance, things aren't as they are in real life in this game.

I mean..bringing somebody back to life with shock paddles after they are hit in the face with an AT rocket????

[Hu.Z_of_PLA]

Re: R.I.P. Blackhawk - 2/14/2006

I haven't tried them yet but I completely agree; it would have been much nicer to enhance the effectiveness of the MEC/Chinese transport's guns than ruin the Black Hawk's mini-guns. With a full crew, the BH is supposed to be feared and playing on the ground, I always thought it was great to hear the Black Hawk coming and to know you were in trouble.

Fear is such an under-rated part of what makes a game like this so enjoyable. If you can play without fearing anyone or anything, it gets boring very quickly.

lack of fear is why I quit flying before 1.2

[Fee501st]

Re: R.I.P. Blackhawk - 2/14/2006

And the m95 would cause a man to explode no matter where you shot him...but for the sake of balance, things aren't as they are in real life in this game.

I mean..bringing somebody back to life with shock paddles after they are hit in the face with an AT rocket????

True, they chould make the BH hitpoints alot weaker to balance the Chaingun

[Bizzare inc.]

Re: R.I.P. Blackhawk - 2/14/2006

I shot down 2x BlackHawks with the M95 in the same round, & off course they done a kick vote against me.

Very powerful sniper, now i believe that guy who said 1 shot 1 kill a while back. Even tho it was probably damaged, you all should try it out, you will be suprised how strong the M95 is now

[Fee501st]

Re: R.I.P. Blackhawk - 2/14/2006

I shot down 2x BlackHawks with the M95 in the same round, & off course they done a kick vote against me.

Very powerful sniper, now i believe that guy who said 1 shot 1 kill a while back. Even tho it was probably damaged, you all should try it out, you will be suprised how strong the M95 is now

You mean you shot the chopper itself and not the Pilot and it went down? lol :laugh:

[PsYcHo.KiLLa]

Re: R.I.P. Blackhawk - 2/14/2006

With a full crew, the BH is supposed to be feared and playing on the ground, I always thought it was great to hear the Black Hawk coming and to know you were in trouble.

Fear is such an under-rated part of what makes a game like this so enjoyable. If you can play without fearing anyone or anything, it gets boring very quickly.

Exactly. I agree with you 100%.

[Bizzare inc.]

Re: R.I.P. Blackhawk - 2/14/2006

You mean you shot the chopper itself and not the Pilot and it went down? lol :laugh:

Yer & got 6 kills was quite funny actually until they done a vote. Like i said try it you will be suprised.

[Lugal317]

Re: R.I.P. Blackhawk - 2/14/2006

teamwork oriented squad...don't make me laugh...for the MOST part, those were POINT oriented squads.

You want your teamwork oriented chopper squad? Take out the Mi-17 or Z-8!!! Nobody wants to use 'em and nobody bothers to try and shoot them down because they don't feel like they're a threat.

There..problem solved.

Fact is, you NEED an engi and a medic to keep a BH alive. Thats more teamwork than most things need. And yes, I've taken the cow out for a spin on Mashtuur, got 160 pts doing it too, because all we were doing was taking out the BH by dropping C4 on top of it. If you don't call that teamwork I don't know what is.

The ultimate goal behind every squad is to get points... so your argument is kinda moot.