R.I.P. Blackhawk - 2/14/2006

[Lazy8s]

Re: R.I.P. Blackhawk - 2/14/2006

RIP and good freakin riddence. It's great, you can instantly tell who the bunnyhoppers and plane whores were now the patch is out. Buffing the MEC heilo is a terrible option. why not just take the ground infantry's guns away while you're at it? The last thing we need is 2 heilos descimating both teams equally. I was in the BH 2x on mashtuur and both times each squad member got over 100pts a piece. If a blackhawk never flies again I would be happy.

[Mahoro]

Re: R.I.P. Blackhawk - 2/14/2006

ha, the golden days were over....days that I can jacked 100+ point for just flying the blackhawk

[troybob]

Re: R.I.P. Blackhawk - 2/14/2006

didn't read the whole post but the blackhawk guns work fine if you know how to use them

the bullets inherit the velocity of the heli. SO if your moving forward - aim behind the person.

if your hovering it works fine - no leading needed.

[zuiquan1]

Re: R.I.P. Blackhawk - 2/14/2006

the BH days arnt over, in fact they are just beginning, flying around with this new AA and nerfed gun will make it a much more tactical experience, it may suck for you stat whores who like to get easy kills and rack up your points, but you know what, get over it, adapt!

[CommanderD]

Re: R.I.P. Blackhawk - 2/14/2006

I think they should of just made the MEC and PLA heli guns like have explosive shells to counter the BH, in real life mini guns are all powerful.

[Donkey]

Re: R.I.P. Blackhawk - 2/14/2006

RIP and good freakin riddence. It's great, you can instantly tell who the bunnyhoppers and plane whores were now the patch is out. Buffing the MEC heilo is a terrible option. why not just take the ground infantry's guns away while you're at it? The last thing we need is 2 heilos descimating both teams equally. I was in the BH 2x on mashtuur and both times each squad member got over 100pts a piece. If a blackhawk never flies again I would be happy.

Right because instead of adapting and overcoming using skill...omfg I know I know I used the word skill...you would rather have them nerf everything in the game so your lone wolf ass can not get killed....

[Chris_Redfield]

Re: R.I.P. Blackhawk - 2/14/2006

Lets nerf everything that has to use skills. I´m eagerly awaiting for selfguided 5.56 and 7.62s...

[maranello]

Re: R.I.P. Blackhawk - 2/14/2006

It doesnt work fine, I played 9 rounds of mashtuur (7 times in blackhawk the entire round), and it was horrible. There were several cases where the pilot was trying to capture a flag and therefore he wasn't moving at all, and I couldn't kill MEC ground troops even though they were too close to me. They basically made blackhawk guns like normal .50 cal guns, which has to be fired right on the person, if you shoot 1 inch right(or left) of his feet, nothing happens. Totally ridiculous.

I understand AA must have had to be fixed and chopper hitpoints be decreased, i agreed all the way, but this is: 1. Something DICE never said (even in patch readme it doesnt say anything) 2. Unfair and shouldn't have happened.

[Alcorr]

Re: R.I.P. Blackhawk - 2/14/2006

AA is crazy agasin't everything in the air now, especially attack choppers as they can't repair in the air and don't go as fast as jets so are basically moving targets that (as of 1.2) take ZERO skill to hit...

1.12 BHs were easy to take down whether it be by jet, vodnik, or attack chopper with TV missile....it wasn't hard.

They should have moved mec/pla chopper to same status as 1.12 BH and left BH alone...they should have left all attack choppers alone as well...

[troybob]

Re: R.I.P. Blackhawk - 2/14/2006

, which has to be fired right on the person, if you shoot 1 inch right(or left) of his feet, nothing happens. Totally ridiculous.

Maybe I'm reading wrong, but what you're saying is that the BH guns suck because they don't kill people unless you aim precisely at them? Isn't that....um...desirable?

[SirCyRo]

Re: R.I.P. Blackhawk - 2/14/2006

And goodluck trying to get a whole "team" to actually know what they are supposed to do in a blackhawk. Yes, it is still possible but its probably easier to win the lottery than to find a team who knows what they are doing. Most people just jump in, try to shoot one person, the jump out and leave the pilot and maybe one gunner.

Its virtually impossible to do if you're just playing by yourself. The other players don't know you. Lots of them don't respond to your voice when you talk via VOIP, again, because you are a stranger. Sometimes you get lucky and a few guys playing will have mic's and be willing to work together. But usually, on public servers, its hard.

That's why I'm in a clan. We almost always have 3-4 of our guys playing together, sometimes as many as 12 of us will take over a pub server. When that happens, we're all on teamspeak in same channel and its easy to get in a chopper with the right set of kits, because we COMMUNICATE.

I don't know why you guys have a hard time understanding this simple concept. This game is based on teamwork. Without it, you'll have a hard time usually.

[RS-Rom]

Re: R.I.P. Blackhawk - 2/14/2006

*BUFF MEC/CHINESE CHOPPER* - Yeah...there aren't enough flying tanks in this game. Bad option.

*BH FLYING OVER ADDED FEAR, which can be a fun element" - TRUE! However the power that thing exerted and the frustration of watching it just eliminate entire squads did not nearly balance out with the 'fear factor'.

Now it will take a little more teamwork and actual flying skills and shooting skills. NO MORE WHORES! Or at least not as bad...

I was sick of seeing a game end in 5 minutes because of the flying tank that not to mention, had 1 howitzer of a gun on each side. I was sick of seeing US foot punders have 20 points max and the heli whores rack up over 100 pts.
Yeah...it wasn't unballanced at all.

The minigun bullets were outrageous. And when a MEC chopper flew by, the bullets could shoot all the people OUT of the MEC chopper without even blowing it up...the bullets would just go straight through. Give me a break.

Now you have to HIT the foot punders with the minguns not just spray around and let the 3 ft explosive radius take 'em out. Ahh and STOP whining..how many bullets does that thing fire a minute???? How much more can a case of 'spray and pray' get?

Develop some aiming and flying skills you whiners!

[Bob_the_Insane]

Re: R.I.P. Blackhawk - 2/14/2006

They basically made blackhawk guns like normal .50 cal guns, which has to be fired right on the person, if you shoot 1 inch right(or left) of his feet, nothing happens. Totally ridiculous.

Without meaning to go all "realisim" as I am aware this is a game the minigun is a 7.62mm weapon with is a smaller calibre weapon than the .50 calibre MG... Of course the mini gun fires a lot more rounds than the .50 MG but they are individually less powerful. The high rate of fire should make it easier to hit the enemy, but you do still need to actually hit them...

In fact I never understood why it was so effective against APCs...

[SirCyRo]

Re: R.I.P. Blackhawk - 2/14/2006

AA is crazy agasin't everything in the air now, especially attack choppers as they can't repair in the air and don't go as fast as jets so are basically moving targets that (as of 1.2) take ZERO skill to hit...

1.12 BHs were easy to take down whether it be by jet, vodnik, or attack chopper with TV missile....it wasn't hard.

They should have moved mec/pla chopper to same status as 1.12 BH and left BH alone...they should have left all attack choppers alone as well...

Hmmm, looking at your avatar, that sounds like a bit of whining to me....

I think its great. I've been waiting for this moment for a long while. Sure, I've been a gunner in a Havok and racked up lots of kills. Same for Blackhawk. But now that the chopper whoring days are over, it adds a whole new element to the game, and I like it.

[Talus]

Re: R.I.P. Blackhawk - 2/14/2006

All I can say is: 'HOORAY!!!!!!'

I couldn't be happier.

The Blackhawk will now be used for transport! (GASP!) instead of a point-farming killing machine.

Now I can go back to enjoying Mashtuur instead of spending my entire round denying the US team of the Blackhawk...they can HAVE it