Hate BF2 1.2

[Paas]

Re: Hate BF2 1.2

1. Limited Supply of Flares.
2. Ability to launch Flares as quickly as necessary.
3. Shorten the range of AA Platform and Mobile vehicles.
4. Remove AA Platforms in middle of fields (this should be mobile territory only as platform AA's realistically are only used to protect major assetts and long term military bases, captured points arent long term bases).
5. Increase air space so that jets can outrun AA Missiles and so they arent 100% of the time inside the AA Zone. They should have a zone that offers protection from AA fire.

Oh god...

1. Works for me. Yet, do you do it by the exact number of flares, or by the entire group like EA has in place? As it currently stands, you pull flares, you drop 5.

2. They already launch as quickly as humanly possible. Just in groups of 5. I'm not seeing what you're getting at.

3. This has already been done. A Jet has to darn near "Float" over you for you to get a lock. A helo has to be about within' 150m of you for you to get a lock. The lock is WELL within' their visual range, and if a Helo is paying attention, he can spot YOU before you spot HIM.

4. Fine.. give ground units Stingers with a 50/50 hit ratio without flares, and we will call if even.

5. Ok. I'll deal. Yet, in real life a jet wouldn't know a missile is on him. So, once the lock is broken from the SAM site a pilot shouldn't know if he's still being followed by the missile.

..and they do have a Zone. Stay outa' the range of potential enemy SAM sites. Ask your Helo pilot, and your ground pounders to secure said SAM sites.

All this patch does is "Require" people to work as a unit. Do what the patch ask and you won't have a problem. Otherwise, you're screwed.

{WP}Paas

[Bob_the_Insane]

Re: Hate BF2 1.2

Also the flares on the chopper and planes take too long to reload. Realistically, a pilot should have a limited supply of flares but be able to release them as quickly as needed.

I totally agree with this, let them spam out the flares, it is what aircradt really do, but give them a limited number that is rearmed in the same manner as their other ordinance... The NUmber of flares launches would be the balancing factor here. Too many and you are invunrable again, too few and it gets even worse...

As for the snipers and tanks comments... It is time people (squads) started using APCs more for their design purpose, especially now that you are such an easy target with the jet and choppers being "distracted"... Allows you to move your squad from A to be with being immune to small arms fire... Of course storming a flag in a full APC is a quick way to give someone a whole bunch of points. But it is a good way of getting from A to B without being sniped...

5. Ok. I'll deal. Yet, in real life a jet wouldn't know a missile is on him. So, once the lock is broken from the SAM site a pilot shouldn't know if he's still being followed by the missile.
{WP}Paas

Technology has moved on a bit there... Most miltary aircraft have passive infared sensors that will detect the heat bloom of a lauching and airbourne missile. If the seeker head of the missle is not tied to a radar then there will be no warning of a lock, but your sensors will pick up a missile launch. At that point it is up to the pilot to visually spot the missile and manouver. Your sensor can also detect the diffence between being scanned by radar and being locked, plus it can detect the missile's launch and while it is in the air...

Pretty cool eh...

[Virtus2]

Re: Hate BF2 1.2

QUITE CRYING YOU LITTLE ****ERS just because now you cant go in with a jet and shoot a jet down once then baserape for the next 30 mins with no worrys dosent mean this patch sucks.
My opinion on EA
Every class gets its turn to be the superr power
1.12 spec ops and assualt
1.2 Sniper Support
Whats next who knows.

[Revoluti0n]

Re: Hate BF2 1.2

QUITE CRYING YOU LITTLE ****ERS just because now you cant go in with a jet and shoot a jet down once then baserape for the next 30 mins with no worrys dosent mean this patch sucks.
My opinion on EA
Every class gets its turn to be the superr power
1.12 spec ops and assualt
1.2 Sniper Support
Whats next who knows.

Obviously you have no real idea what you are talking about. A patch is not about taking turns on what kit is given superior firepower, it is about correcting things that are technically or graphically unsound. EA should not have listened the the crybabies tha got the game after Christmas and expected to be as good as the people that played since day 1.

Anyway, I personally did not like the patch all that much either. I was more let down that relieved after playing 6 hours total after the patch. I think the action moves a lot slower. Those awesome gunfights and battles that were to be had in the past just aint happening anymore.

Pros:

Sniper Kit improvement
New Unlocks
Support weapon improvement (although they were not needed really)
AA is a little more accurate, not great.


Cons:

No new maps
Nerfed the BH
Seems to take forever to go prone and fire
Cannot jump and toss medic or ammo packs
Cannot jump and shoot
Noob toob is actually the same if not worse.
Red/Blue bug is still there

Note: I don't dislike the patch simply to dislike it. I was never an uber pilot or leet with C4 chucking, I just dont understand how castrating vehicles, movement, and overall gameplay can be called an improvement. My only question at this point, why haven't we gotten any new maps? Yes the "Euro" and "Armor" packs will come out soon, but I'm NOT going to be paying for maps to play on ranked servers


$.02
To all flamers/trolls: If you do not like the topic of the thread, move on. No one if forcing you to come in and be a major @sshole. Everyone has the right to their opinion, if you dont like what you see here, then stfu and move it along.

[Sgt.BoscoBA]

Re: Hate BF2 1.2

I love all the flying whores crying about how unbalanced it all is now... Try getting bombed 1000 times a match by jets that simply fly over the airfield and are fully reloaded with bombs. ANNOYING to say the least. Now all you flying fookers that never come to the ground are FORCED to come get some. Glad Im a tank guy. Kill and revive you all later.

[[GU]LIZARD{GEN}]

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Cry cry cry yeah well if I were crying I'd have tears in my eyes.. If more then one person feels this way then it can't be just me. Every server I'v been on people are ****ed about the AA being now the new whoring.. A clan mate of mine who practically sucks at the game shot me down in a jet just by doing a fly by and seeing me for a few seconds he fired two missiles he said and they hit me in mid air during a turn... He claimed he didnt even let it get tone and thats true I can confirm that.

I'll be waiting for a mod or something this hasn't fixed anything as far as TKing, and its made things worse.. Just added something to whore in now.. Go on Wake Sit in any AA gun that includes the one on the carrier and your guranted a few kills just with the click of a button... Everything else takes skills in game why can't the IGLA and AA guns? So because a few people can't fly, or get enough skills to take a chopper down they whine and we get stuck with EA giving them a Aimbot that is actually built into the game...

I don't know about you but getting in a tank for me is completly boring.. I like to fly...

[Chris_Redfield]

Re: Hate BF2 1.2

I love all the flying whores crying about how unbalanced it all is now... Try getting bombed 1000 times a match by jets that simply fly over the airfield and are fully reloaded with bombs. ANNOYING to say the least. Now all you flying fookers that never come to the ground are FORCED to come get some. Glad Im a tank guy. Kill and revive you all later.

Another one in need for a 101 in maths.

Its 2-4 times per round. Get over the jealousy. A chopper was supposed to be more powerful than 1 grunt. Thats the truth. The balance was never meant to be- 1 grunt = 1 chopper.

[[UT]MajorHavoc]

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Another one in need for a 101 in maths.

Its 2-4 times per round. Get over the jealousy. A chopper was supposed to be more powerful than 1 grunt. Thats the truth. The balance was never meant to be- 1 grunt = 1 chopper.

FYI, 1 grunt still cannot take down a chopper with his kit. so try to make yourself sound sensible before pointing fingers at others.

[Sgt.BoscoBA]

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You may need to get some READING 101 in as I was talking about BOMBER JETS getting the bombs back too easy. Also, If I hit you in a chopper with a tank round or a Anti-Tank missle, YOU ARE DONE!! Not in the last version. I hit you... You keep flying.... TOTAL BS! Heat seeking stingers dont miss all the time either.... You think you always have to wait for a hovering helo to blast it....Come On...

[Bob_the_Insane]

Re: Hate BF2 1.2

There is no way for a single grunt or ever whole squad to take out a chopper without either some lucky AT hits...

Now if those grunts start using equipmment on the map (and not in their kit) to fight back then that is another thing...

1 chopper > squad of grunts

but

1 chopper = 1 AA site (they can quickly and easily take each other out)...

or

1 chopper = 2 mounted .50 MGs (though the chopper has more opportunity to escape)...

So effectively it is map based equipment countering other map based equipment...

There is nothing on the map that can kill your chopper that you yourself can't kill (with the exception of jets but that has not changed)...

[I.S.O.MacMumble]

Re: Hate BF2 1.2

I have to say i love it, my advice to pilots is join squads then request a sniper to keep people off the stationary aa or a rocket to do away with the mobile ones or be a squad leader and ask the comander directly i used to be a lone wolf all the time but then found the wonder of squads it makes the entire game different
but if people are going to throw thier toys out the pram so be it i'll still be enjoying a very entertaining game:)

[imported_r0279s]

Re: Hate BF2 1.2

" i miss it like the desert misses the water"

the desert doesn't miss water. the water just isn't on the surface (alot)!

[Hu.Z_of_PLA]

Re: Hate BF2 1.2

to balance a game, ANY game, you have to give a weapon undesirable characeristics if it's really good.

take pre 1.2 jets for example, they cannot be shot down, they don't have to worry about enemy fire, they can be repaired and rearmed quickly, they can do a lot of damage.

sounds unbalanced? you bet.

I recently started flying again because finally there is a challenging environment

[=CKA= Noncog]

Re: Hate BF2 1.2

I like the patch so far. Then again, I'm not a planewhore.

[Verzili]

Re: Hate BF2 1.2

I have to say i love it, my advice to pilots is join squads then request a sniper to keep people off the stationary aa or a rocket to do away with the mobile ones or be a squad leader and ask the comander directly i used to be a lone wolf all the time but then found the wonder of squads it makes the entire game different
but if people are going to throw thier toys out the pram so be it i'll still be enjoying a very entertaining game:)

i agree finaly snipers will be called on for somthing more than killing other snipers,i for one will make it my duty to keep the aa as clean as i can thus aiding my fellow air pals with a longer flying span,and hope in return they keep the tanks of me back!! teamwork you got to love it when its forced on you to acheive somthing in the game rather than a 1.12 plane k/d ratio :)