BF2 Weapons Chart (Update: 08/14/2007)

[Djungelmums]

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Noone have reacted on the suckiness of the unlockable medic weapons?

[F-1]

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L85A1 is definitly not that great unlock. all of the default assault rifles are much better. However, the G36E has an excellent accuracy. It definitly worth to be unlocked.

[Djungelmums]

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When can i unlock step G36?

[subzero nautica]

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This is an AWWESOME rescource! ! !
I for one appreciate is alot! Only wish I'd come across it before!

Me too. I had been saving three unlocks for Euroforces. I unlocked the P90 and L96 last week and been saving my last unlock for when Euroforce was released.

Looks like from this chart, there arent any new unlocks with Euroforce? So i guess im gonna use it on one of those tier 3 weapons.

[Djungelmums]

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Is this G36 SF required?

[F-1]

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G36E is an SF unlock

[Robske007a]

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Yea its an icon glitch, number ...... on the 1.2 glitch list

[FreakinSyco]

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Am I reading correctly that the support MGs are more accurate while prone and NOT zoomed in?

Edit: And the recoil is worse while zoomed with the MGs also.. WTF?

[F-1]

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Am I reading correctly that the support MGs are more accurate while prone and NOT zoomed in?

Edit: And the recoil is worse while zoomed with the MGs also.. WTF?

Yes that is right! you'd better not zoom with those LMGs.

[Jlspence]

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Something I've never understood about these weapon chart stats is the Sniper Rifle Min. Deviation being 5. On Wiki, this variable is defined as:

"Min Deviation: This is the minimum amount that each shot will deviate from the aim point per shot, the higher this number, the lower the initial accuracy per shot. Range to the target is a factor in this modifier, the closer the target, the smaller the deviation cone will be."

How can that number be so high yet the gun be accurate? The closest thing to the sniper rifles is the shotguns at 1.5. Anyone have an explanation?

[F-1]

Re: Weapons Chart After 1.2 Patch

Something I've never understood about these weapon chart stats is the Sniper Rifle Min. Deviation being 5. On Wiki, this variable is defined as:

"Min Deviation: This is the minimum amount that each shot will deviate from the aim point per shot, the higher this number, the lower the initial accuracy per shot. Range to the target is a factor in this modifier, the closer the target, the smaller the deviation cone will be."

How can that number be so high yet the gun be accurate? The closest thing to the sniper rifles is the shotguns at 1.5. Anyone have an explanation?

in the sniper's case you must zoom before shooting or it will be very inaccurate shot.
when you zoom you multiply the deviation with the zoom modifier which is 0.005 for the M24 (for example).... then it becomes a small number= accurate.

[Jlspence]

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Ahhh...thanks, makes perfect sense. I was incorrectly interpreting the significance of the Min. deviation.

[jdrou]

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"Min Deviation: This is the minimum amount that each shot will deviate from the aim point per shot, the higher this number, the lower the initial accuracy per shot. Range to the target is a factor in this modifier, the closer the target, the smaller the deviation cone will be."

How can that number be so high yet the gun be accurate? The closest thing to the sniper rifles is the shotguns at 1.5. Anyone have an explanation?

The use of the word "minimum" in the definition is wrong. A more accurate name for this value would be Base Deviation but the game calls it minDev. As [DUCKS]Black_Duck_1 says, this number is actually multiplied by stance and zoom modifiers so the actual "minimum deviation" would be this value times the lowest stance modifier and the zoom modifier.

[F-1]

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This is quoted from bf2s wiki

Deviation Calculations

The formula is [ (Min Deviation * Stance) + (Additional Shots) ] * (Zoom Mod) + [(Recoil) * Recoil Zoom Mod]

look here for more details:

http://wiki.bf2s.com/weapons/comparison#deviation-calculations

[jdrou]

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look here for more details:
http://wiki.bf2s.com/weapons/compari...n-calculations

I've put in a request for the wiki to change their definition of minDev.