Baseraping script? pls delete!!

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  • UnrealAlex

    #31
    Re: Baseraping script? pls delete!!

    Originally posted by Godspeed
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    How do you know I base rape? You dont. But that just shows what a prick you are. More reason to stay away from that script and people who like it.

    Apparently anyone who has enough common sense to dislike a script like that is a base raper.

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    • machstem

      #32
      Re: Baseraping script? pls delete!!

      My god, I actually think that is against the regulations to prevent ppl from killing within any radius...flag or no flag

      Again with this idiotic term "base raper". Won't you learn? You are essentially insulting someone for being better than you in a videogame.

      Learn to play...the entire game

      I personally think the actual punish for "base raping" should be removed and have consequences on servers that enforce it within the ranked servers. Just as you can't tell everyone to only use pistols, or no one uses tanks, you can't kick someone just because they are using your idiocy to kill you.

      This reminds me of the several "noob toober" threads. You need to learn how to win before complaining. It works out alot better in the end, and everyone benefits, especially you.

      PEACE

      EDIT: Wait, was the original topic regarding ranked or unranked servers? If unranked, disregard my reply! LOL!!!

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      • Metasynaptic

        #33
        Re: Baseraping script? pls delete!!

        10 guys sitting ont he carrier deck waiting for a plane while there are other available spawn points deserve to be bombed.

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        • Astralman

          #34
          Re: Baseraping script? pls delete!!

          Originally posted by Churrasco
          Glad to see you guys agree with me(us).

          Actually this script is illegal, it's like Knife/Pistol servers.
          This is the way the game was meant to be played, it's kill or to be killed.
          Damn skippy. If you've lost all the flags, and the enemy moves in on your remaining spawn point, it's called "mopping up". Shoulda never let it get so out of hand. Squad play, with a savvy squad leader smart enough to stay undercover always gives a spawn point. Others spawning on him forming squads gets everyone back into the game. Seeing all the flags capped, bailing out of squads so the limit for squads isn't in effect is a fast way to turn the tide. Put your thinking caps on.

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          • rich_ambassador

            #35
            Re: Baseraping script? pls delete!!

            Originally posted by Godspeed
            Then playing all kind of bf2 mods are cheating too. Cos they also remove some aspects from the game and add something else ... As i sed before you guys play on unscript server and i play on script server and everyone is happy.
            Notice that I said, "You can't just remove aspects from the game that you don't like and continue to play on ranked servers." Don't be so flame happy that you can't even read the whole post.

            EDIT: This means that my definition does not include mods in case you couldn't figure that out.

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            • Paas

              #36
              Re: Baseraping script? pls delete!!

              This has really gotten out of hand. First of all, you cannot limit the parameters of the game in regards to ranked servers. This is a direct violation of EA's rules. EA should take a more active role in their ranked server parameters... and anyone who complains about said server should report their finds to EA.

              Secondly. The concept of "Base Raping" is a completely idiotic notion. It's the some mindset that forces bigger kids to "Not" play in PeeWee football because they are bigger than their peers; or football teams being punished for running up the score 70+ to 0 because it hurts the feelings of the other kiddies (High School Level).

              This mindset has to go. You cannot blame the talent and outright relentless tactics of your enemy on your shortcomings. Especially when it's in no form of fashion an exploit (Jets are debateable, considering there is no reasonable ground defense against them). You are the reaon you're getting based camped. Not the enemy. You didn't work well enough as a team to defend the required assets and You and Your commander didn't assign any available forces to counter the "Obvious" assault that's coming for your primary base.

              It just astounds me how everyone is so quick to point fingers at other players for their shortcommings. I swear, there is VOIP and a Squad system in this game. USE IT!. Balance out your divisions; don't have a squad full of one kit in other words. Assign roles to different squads (Alpha Defends Primary. Bravo, Charlie, and Delta attack different loctions. Echo is Air support of all types). Work as a team and overcome the odds against you, don't go outside the game looking for solutions.

              Really. You people just need to grow up. You cannot respond to everything in life with a "Oh my god it's not fair". If you do this in a game, I can only imagine how you would handle a conflict in society.

              Jeebus'. This is just sad, and annoying.

              {WP}Paas

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              • WarGimp

                #37
                Re: Baseraping script? pls delete!!

                Originally posted by Al3x
                Only noobs would play and enjoy a script like that.
                I donno... it sounds like not a bad way to enhance some good PUB play.

                One problem with pubs is that when you've got one team with a fist full of good players, they can turn the round into an ugly blowout quite quickly via base raping (on certain maps). While it certainly is a mechanic of the game (and IMHO a legit tactic) it can degrade the general fun or the server.

                We're talking about pubs here, not serious hard core comp servers. Pub should be fun above and beyond EVERY other issue. That's what they're for. If an admin feels that running a script like this helps promote good pub play, I say go for it. The wrose that can happen is people voting with their feet.

                That said, it would definatly be EA's call as to whether or not this is a violation of the ranked server agreement.

                Side note: I really wanna see a script that checks for the use of "noob ejocters". It should be a simple matter to check a TK event to see if A) the victem was in a vehicle and B) if the TKer is holding an M95. Since I can't see anyway it would possibly be a legit event given those two factors being true, this is an ideal place for some scripted admin. I'd include a function that publicly mocks the TKer before bootin 'im. Oh, and a local tracker that auto-bans for 3 or more violations.

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                • sumguyhavinfun

                  #38
                  Re: Baseraping script? pls delete!!

                  theres no use at the opposition being at your uncappable flag or you at theirs, the game is about capturing flags, except to destroy uav, arty or the scan radar.

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                  • PHPT

                    #39
                    Re: Baseraping script? pls delete!!

                    As far as I know, you are allowed to ban for baserape. EA allows rules like "no C4 on the flagpost" to fly, they only forbid things like weapon restrictions and only letting certain people in.

                    I'll support a ban of baserape rules when they beef up AA to the point where Gulf of Oman isn't getting perma-raped by jets and all they have to hold it off is a single stinger.

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                    • Twisted-

                      #40
                      Re: Baseraping script? pls delete!!

                      Lets see what you are going to do on a map like dallian plant as USMC, i see the following happen all the time. China controls all the flag caps, two apcs go across the water full of engineers and camp underneath the carrier, meanwhile the two j10s continue to bomb the carrier deck and the commander arties it repeatedly while the attack chopper circles the deck taking out AA and infantry.

                      I understand that it's obviously the teams fault for not working together, but we are talking about public servers here. I play for fun and i'm sure there is alot of other people here who do, when this type of thing happens to me it makes me wonder why i even bother to play on public servers. I wish EA never introduced the ranking and stat system, it's ruined this game and created a new breed of egotistical morons.

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                      • Jesse

                        #41
                        Re: Baseraping script? pls delete!!

                        Originally posted by Wargimp
                        Side note: I really wanna see a script that checks for the use of "noob ejocters". It should be a simple matter to check a TK event to see if A) the victem was in a vehicle and B) if the TKer is holding an M95. Since I can't see anyway it would possibly be a legit event given those two factors being true, this is an ideal place for some scripted admin. I'd include a function that publicly mocks the TKer before bootin 'im. Oh, and a local tracker that auto-bans for 3 or more violations.
                        As far as the mocking, I say have a seperate spawn function for those guys. Have their spawn be offset by about....500 meters in the air. And removetemplate the parachute from all kits in this mocking function as well. That way, when they spawn, they are forced to leave, because that spawn at 500m in the air, then fall those 500 only to notice they don't have a parachute. :p

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                        • C11.Nemisis

                          #42
                          Re: Baseraping script? pls delete!!

                          imagine for a second a pilot is getting his ass owned in the air, so hes running away from the superior pilot trying to shoot him down and all the pilot has to do is fly around his uncappable base till the guy gets kicked for killing him in the zone.

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                          • WarGimp

                            #43
                            Re: Baseraping script? pls delete!!

                            Originally posted by C11.Nemisis
                            imagine for a second a pilot is getting his ass owned in the air, so hes running away from the superior pilot trying to shoot him down and all the pilot has to do is fly around his uncappable base till the guy gets kicked for killing him in the zone.
                            Yer being a little short sighted, aintcha?

                            For starters, I would be rather impressed with any pilot who's able to turn sharply enough to stay within the "protected area". Them planes don't exactly turn on a dime.

                            Second, the script include a system for giving multiple warnings. It's not like you'd "oops" once and get kicked. You'd have to do it repeatedly in order to get booted.

                            Originally posted by Jesse
                            As far as the mocking, I say have a seperate spawn function for those guys. Have their spawn be offset by about....500 meters in the air. And removetemplate the parachute from all kits in this mocking function as well. That way, when they spawn, they are forced to leave, because that spawn at 500m in the air, then fall those 500 only to notice they don't have a parachute. :p
                            Hehe, that might work.
                            Alternatly, you could set up a function that simply takes a screen shot, kicks the guy from the server, then posts said screen (plus all details about the player, including CD hash) to a web page.

                            Great way to compile an undisputable blacklist.

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                            • David Duchovny

                              #44
                              Re: Baseraping script? pls delete!!

                              If you have a decent squad you can defeat a base raper any day. Base raping only works agains noobs. Everyone knows when the base raping takes place, that means its time to pull out the Anti-Tank and good old assault kit.

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                              • « R²» HKS

                                #45
                                Re: Baseraping script? pls delete!!

                                There is nothing illegal whatsoever about running a no base raping script. Think of it as being the same as the tkpunish system. Just like the tkpunish system where if you tk 3 times (default setting) and get punished 3 times you get auto kicked. All it is is an auto admin feature and there is nothing wrong with having it on a ranked server.

                                Taken from the ROE:

                                3. LOCAL (PRIVATELY RENTED) SERVER RULES
                                These are rules that are not enforced upon EA's public servers but may be in use upon privately rented servers. These rules are decided by the administrators for those servers and as long as they do not contradict any global rules enforced by EA are considered valid for those servers.
                                Examples of valid local rules *could* include:
                                - No artillery fire or bombing runs on main (uncapturable) bases.
                                - No prolongued or sustained attacks on main (uncapturable) bases (i.e. spawncamping).

                                Only the cheap players will go and rape an uncap when there are other bases to attack. Why? Well the ranking system encourages them to go and get their cheap kills. If there are other flags to be taken they should be attacking those flags.

                                Now if a team has all the flags then I don't have any problem about raping an uncap to finish the game off however, those on the receiving side aren't having any fun and that's what pubs are for. Having FUN! If we raped uncaps on our server it would be empty, its never empty because we don't play that way. A situation the other night where my side had all the flags on Dalian, so we went and raped the carrier, half of the USA side left with 2 mins of repeatedly dying. Sure we had fun but did they? Obviously not, even 2 of our teammates on the other side got the ****s and left. Now this rarely happens on our server because you need to have all the flags before you can rape an uncap, but if there was no such rule the server would be empty 24/7 like most servers out there that don't have a no attack uncaps till last flag rule.

                                As someone said people will vote with their feet and its pretty obvious if you look at my sig how people feel about it.

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