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  • Talus
    Member
    • Oct 2006
    • 6854

    #46
    Re: more patch info from guys who tested it

    Originally posted by lAFo0l
    WTF Bouncing nades from a m203 grenade launcher how unrealistic and lame is that and so i guess the m203 is now useless against vehicles like a jeep looks like another part of the game is gone now
    The thought is that the 'nade will bounce if it lands before a certain distance limit is reached...i.e. you cannot shoot it at your feet and hop like an idiot and kill your foe...it just bounces.

    BUT..if you launch the 'nade at a NORMAL distance, it'll explode on impact like normal.

    VOILA...the M203/G30 is still useful, but NO MORE N00B T00BING!

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    • glaucoma

      #47
      Re: more patch info from guys who tested it

      I think the bouncing part is hilarious and an awesome improvement of the gameplay, per se.

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      • snuggnads

        #48
        Re: more patch info from guys who tested it

        Originally posted by AlphaNut
        I think it's awsome that you can shoot around corners with the tube now
        Now assault can use the tube to shoot from behind cover using the walls as "bouncers". This will require a complete new technique of playing with the tube.
        Maybe I'll be using it a bit more often now:evil:
        I predict that the "bounce" feature will be complained about more than the current whining about the hop/fire toober.

        btw - can't wait to try out this new feature

        also, good call on the new assault class name AlphaNut, "bouncers" now, instead of "hoppers".....cool

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        • glaucoma

          #49
          Re: more patch info from guys who tested it

          Originally posted by snugnads
          I predict that the "bounce" feature will be complained about more than the current whining about the hop/fire toober.

          btw - can't wait to try out this new feature

          also, good call on the new assault class name AlphaNut, "bouncers" now, instead of "hoppers".....cool
          I predict that the bouncing will only be annoying on Karkand, whereas the other thing was annnoying on every map.

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          • Auto-ER-

            #50
            Re: more patch info from guys who tested it

            So wait a minute, when you fire the GL, the grenades bounce, then explode?

            Is this only if they hit before the arming distance, or always? And what's the amring distance?

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            • LoganX

              #51
              Re: more patch info from guys who tested it

              Originally posted by Auto-ER-
              Is this only if they hit before the arming distance, or always? And what's the amring distance?
              Correct.

              From the vid it looks like the arming distance is approx 20 -25 feet or so. (As far as I can tell. This is only a best guess)

              Sounds resonable. Even 30' would be reasonable.

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              • Talus
                Member
                • Oct 2006
                • 6854

                #52
                Re: more patch info from guys who tested it

                Originally posted by Auto-ER-
                So wait a minute, when you fire the GL, the grenades bounce, then explode?

                Is this only if they hit before the arming distance, or always? And what's the amring distance?
                They only bounce if they land before their minimum arming distance. Beyond that distance, they would explode on impact instead of bouncing.

                once the patch is out, we'll learn the actual distance in meters I'm sure.

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                • PsYcHo.KiLLa

                  #53
                  Re: more patch info from guys who tested it

                  nice find!!!

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                  • Auto-ER-

                    #54
                    Re: more patch info from guys who tested it

                    Good, I was about to flip out.

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                    • NATESOR

                      #55
                      Re: more patch info from guys who tested it

                      Originally posted by lAFo0l
                      WTF Bouncing nades from a m203 grenade launcher how unrealistic and lame is that and so i guess the m203 is now useless against vehicles like a jeep looks like another part of the game is gone now
                      Not as unrealistic as you'd think. A buddy of mine heard a guy talk about shooting his m203 into a lake in Iraq. It bounced off the water and landed within 200m of an American base putting everyone on high alert. The guy just started whistling and walked away.

                      Personally, I think the minimum distance is a great fix, but the reduced radius so-so. I think a player should be rewarded for well placed distance shots. Currently the "kill zone" is only 3 ft. on the GL, compared to 7ft. on hand nades. Having it reduced further will make it really hard (too hard?) to use on medium range infantry targets, which I think is a totally legit use for it seeing as assault has no hand grenades.

                      Flashbang nerf shouldn't happen either. This isn't CS. A lot of BF2 is in open areas where it is pretty tough to get a good flash off.

                      Sniper rifles should not be touched. They are fine as is. I've been 1-shot while zig-zag sprinting with body armor and the sniper over 200m away before... I think they are accurate enough.

                      Support accuracy upgrade. SAW, MG36 and Chinese lmg need it BAD. RPK could use a slight increase. They shouldn't touch the PKM. If you just wait like .5 sec. after going prone before openning up the PKM is actually pretty accurate.

                      Of course we all love the bunnyhop/dive fix!

                      I have over 100 hours in the helo, and yes it needs nerfed. I think buffed AA and less missiles are the way to go. Jet needs a major nerf as well. On some maps (wake) going 40 and 1 is very possible in the jet. New AA can hopefully curb that.

                      Killable UAV: while it has a high "neato" factor, is a bad gameplay idea. Now the enemy has 2 ways to take out the most valuable commander asset. You can expect there almost never to be UAVs now, seriously nerfing the commander.

                      Just my two cents.

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                      • glaucoma

                        #56
                        Re: more patch info from guys who tested it

                        The friend of the aunt of the ex-coworker of the dog of the sister of my brother's ex-girlfriend's optometrician once shot an m203 round into the sky and caused MIR to fall into the ocean. True story.

                        I agree that the flash bang not be nerfed.
                        I disagree about the sniper rifles. With all the hit registration failures and the fixed 4x (lol) scope, this is only a fair improvement, as long as they don't turn it into a CS style weapon.
                        I also disagree about the support tweaks. The support class direly needed that, and you have to tweak all weapons by the same amount to uphold the differences between them.
                        I also disagrees about jets and helos. I don't see anything bad about "going 40 and 1".
                        I agree about the UAV. I hope you atleast don't get points for shooting it down. What with all the non-spotting commanders out there, the commander will be useless as chicken**** most of the time now.

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                        • BB|Bonehead

                          #57
                          Re: more patch info from guys who tested it

                          Originally posted by glaucoma
                          The friend of the aunt of the ex-coworker of the dog of the sister of my brother's ex-girlfriend's optometrician once shot an m203 round into the sky and caused MIR to fall into the ocean. True story.
                          ROFL, fell outta my doggone chair! :laugh:

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                          • rombaft

                            #58
                            Re: more patch info from guys who tested it

                            The friend of the aunt of the ex-coworker of the dog of the sister of my brother's ex-girlfriend's optometrician once shot an m203 round into the sky and caused MIR to fall into the ocean. True story.
                            lol indeed .

                            I said it already, and I will say it again, MAN, I can't wait till patch is out, those nooby tubers are going to get owned badly

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                            • redrider

                              #59
                              Re: more patch info from guys who tested it

                              Now time for something really important. Arent there other features that they talked about? Didnt they say something about betterFPS? I personally have issues I hope are fixed in the new patch, but I would be happy if the game ran as smooth as silk for everyone. I know thats not gonna happen. It seems that if they are patching the game it should first of all work better and second of all have the in game items adjusted. Who cares if the jets, choppers, noob tubers, etc. are taken care of if we have trouble getting in game to see it.

                              By the way Ive been bounceing hand granades of stuff for a long time. The GL wont do it but the hand thrown kind will. Great for killing people under a bridge when you are on the bridge. . . . . .Red

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                              • Hu.Z_of_PLA

                                #60
                                Re: more patch info from guys who tested it

                                the bouncing M203 will be less of a problem than you think.

                                For one, you can already bounce handgernade.

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