My 5 year old daughter plays!

[jjames010]

Re: My 5 year old daughter plays!

this is sort of similar to parents that own real weapons at home. If you intentionally NOT teach them what the gun is, what it's uses are for, and what it CAN do, then you could find out that your child has been secretly playing with it, in which harm could result.

Teaching your kids about the game or anything RL is the best thing for them. Just don't let her socially withdrawl and play bf2 her whole life.

Xm3rcX

[Pirelli]

Re: My 5 year old daughter plays!

You can teach them what the gun is, but you dont let them play with it. Thats just common sense, but your missing the point of the discussion here.

You can show them the box of the game if you want and tell them that they cant play it untill they are more grown up. You may also tell them why they dont get to play it until they are older. That doesent mean you can let them sit and play it for hours and hours.

Parents needs advice all the time - cant trust instincts to know the right thing all the way.
Parenting is a very challenging task.

[jjames010]

Re: My 5 year old daughter plays!

No, really? That's why as a parent, you take the weapon out, show it to them, take them out to a shooting range so they can see it, shoot it. Thus, removing some of the secretive aspects of the gun.

This is a parallel to the game. If this guy does his parenting properly, then what the child will understand over time that this is a game and not real life.

Xm3rcX

[Pirelli]

Re: My 5 year old daughter plays!

No, really? That's why as a parent, you take the weapon out, show it to them, take them out to a shooting range so they can see it, shoot it. Thus, removing some of the secretive aspects of the gun.

This is a parallel to the game. If this guy does his parenting properly, then what the child will understand over time that this is a game and not real life.

Xm3rcX

In Norway - if you gave your 5 year old child a gun so it can testshoot with it, you would instantly be taken away the right to care for your child. Possibly also jailed.

The best thing you can do if you have a weapon and children in the house it to hide the weapon out of sight and reach, and put the bullets in a locker seperate from the gun.

[vbl]

Re: My 5 year old daughter plays!

Fortunately, the most difficult computer-related parenting I've had to do amounts to stopping my cat from sticking his face in the exposed fans on my tower.

[jjames010]

Re: My 5 year old daughter plays!

wow.. in the USA there isn't such a restriction.

[Pirelli]

Re: My 5 year old daughter plays!

I support that restriction 100%

[jjames010]

Re: My 5 year old daughter plays!

in Norway, are you allowed to own firearms? if so what kind?

[Pirelli]

Re: My 5 year old daughter plays!

Its alowed to keep weapons yes, but in lockers. The ammunition is required to be in a seperate locker for ammunition in the house. You are not alowed to carry the gun in the streets.

Norway is one of the countries with most guns per capita in the world if im not mistaken but its mostly hunting weapons for moose/deerhunt(different kind of rifles) and birdhunt(shotguns), but we have one of the lowest murder and crime rates. We also are one of the top exporters of weapons per capita in the world.

The home guard(national guard) keep their personal weapons (AG3) at home. I served in the Norwegian army and was equipped with the AG3. Its a modification of the G3 which you can see used in BF2. I liked it but its a bit heavy compared to alternatives imo. Very powerfull weapon.

The Washington-based Violence Policy Center did a study last year of firearm mortality rates in 11 countries. The US was on top, with an overall firearm death rate of 13.7 per 100,000 population, versus 3.9 percent in Canada, 4.3 percent in Norway, 2.9 percent in Australia, and just 0.4 percent in England-Wales. Of course, guns, and particularly handguns, are strictly controlled in the UK --- and only four percent of households possess firearms, versus more than 40 percent of households in the US. (32 % in Norway)

http://www.guncontrol.ca/Content/international.html

From what I can see from this page, top 3 on the firearm per capita is 1. Finland 2. USA, 3. Norway.

[tw1g]

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That is so absolutely true, see what video games did to these guys?

http://www-personal.umich.edu/~austi.../pacamajig.mov

It's OBVIOUS video games are SO dangerous to our youth. America is doomed. Only politicians wanting to spend your tax dollars so people don't have to read clearly printed ratings on boxes can save us now.

LMFAO I haven't laughed this hard in awhile.

[wattsfox43]

Re: My 5 year old daughter plays!

nevermind.

Probably get me banned off the forums lol.

[Jofaba]

Re: My 5 year old daughter plays!

Either a lot of you really understimate children or when you read "five year old" you're thinking "two year old". My roomate's six year old son likes to watch me play games. His "thing" is to play with the joystick while I fly planes (it's off, I'll use mouse and keyboard). He plays his own versions of murder games, albeit sci-fi oriented, on his XboX. He's watched either me, his step-dad, or real father play any of the following games:

Every Battlefield game
Halflife 2 (which he loves)
Doom3
Quake4
Hitman 2
GTA San Andreas (See below)
And a dozen others

And his reaction? He loves the action and hates the killing. After watching me play GTA San Andreas a couple of times he got tired of yelling at me for killing people for their cars and the excessive cussing ("I don't like that word!") and no longer watches me. He's also not allowed to watch me play that game anymore, because we know that it bothers him, yet we also know that he has a strong desire to spend time with us while we play games, and the two are at odds with each other. So we play the part of his concious for him, since he made those feelings aware to us.

He hates cursing, he hates realistic violence, and he's a mamma's boy. Nothing wrong with that. So am I.

The point is, and sure it's different for everyone (and that's why you can't make blanket statements), he's obviously mature enough to decide whats right and wrong, and puts those to good use on a daily basis.

And what does he do when he's not watching us play games? He reads a (childrens) book every night, has to do his homework before he can play, plays with his best friend outside, and oh yeah, although the family is "broken" (divorced/remarried), the biological father lives next door and everyone is extremely friendly.

Leave the kid alone at 4 or 5 playing murder games as a baby sitter, sure, bad parent. But not much different than leaving then alone in front of the tv all day which a large majority of Americans end up doing.

There's been violence and crude humor in cartoons for a very long time. A child growing up with a family showing them love and attention is what breeds how they'll interpret gaming. Obviously the devout love of two fathers, a mother, a grandmother that always visits, as well as the rest of his extended family (and his 2 year old sister) has somehow overcome the brainwashing delusions of some violent videogames.

Any parent that spends a lot of time with their kids, these days or any previous generation, is doing a great job. Make yourself available to your children so they're not afraid to talk about their feelings and you can relax the bubble you've locked them inside a little.

[Jones[31stMEU]]

Re: My 5 year old daughter plays!

nevermind.

Probably get me banned off the forums lol.

I concur 100%, I so wanna just bust out a thesis statement on Pirelli, but I shall refrain from doing so.

[Metal_Storm]

Re: My 5 year old daughter plays!

I would prefer my children be out with other children kicking a ball around. Not vegetating in front of a monitor or T.V.

[parish]

Re: My 5 year old daughter plays!

wow.. in the USA there isn't such a restriction.

Not true. If a peace officer were to see you placing a deadly firearm in the hands of your child and then letting them discharge said weapon, you would be charged with child endangerment as well as have CPS called to remove the child until you had been evaluated by a proffesional.

There is a reason guns arer not sold to kids. It amazes me how many of you think this crap is ok. Actually it does not amaze me, it scares me.

Please do not make comments on what is or is not Ok in the US if your comments include doing something that is against the law. If it's gainst the law, it's not ok.