Is it "moral" to base rape carrier in a jet?

[Moke]

Re: Is it "moral" to base rape carrier in a jet?

Well.... I voted no....

But in reallity we wouldnt have ppl complaining about base rape with jets if the AA was actaully able to shoot down jets....

Hell... no matter how good the pilot is...... if he where to go anywhere near the essex guns and both where manned, he should be cut to pieces instantly....

Then ppl shouldnt complain about jet rapers.... they should just stfu and get in an AA

[x0pht]

Re: Is it "moral" to base rape carrier in a jet?

because anyone that counts on carrier raping on getting points are not very good pilots, not that they will get any points to begin with but they prevents other pilots from getting any fun from shooting at MOVING targets.

yes i agree to that. but i believe, in most league matches, basically the pilot who gets shot down in the first dogfighting round will never get a chance to take off again. cuz as my understanding, one of a jet pilot's jobs is to secure the sky and give his team air support. in order to achieve that, the first thing u need to do is to keep the pilots on the other team off the sky.

x0pht.. i dont know if you know my style, but im a JSF on wake jetwhore. my main mission is to get my ass over to the airfield and if the J-10 is still there (because people are standing in front of it and he doesnt want to take off etc) for some reason, to blow his ass up..because you know what happens if he gets behind me. and then from there i blow up the heli's and AA, and when the jet re-spawns blow it up, and in between i kill infantry waiting on the jets/helis... one game last night i was playing in the dedicated wake 24/7 server, and OFF THE BAT in the beginning of the game i had like 73 points (within about 1-2 min) and EVERYONE on chinese was getting ****ed at me.. "METALLICA YOU NOOB!" "YOU WONT EVEN GIVE US A CHANCE".... but the difference is.. they can spawn ANYWHERE else.... i just hangout by the airfield and around AA's.

lol... yea i know dude. well honestly i do the same thing on wake island too, no matter which team i'm on. cuz i think i'm doing my job in a jet by constantly blowing opponents air assets up before they take off. but i got some complaints about base raping or not giving the other team a chance to fight fairly. so i've been curious what most ppl think.

Hell... no matter how good the pilot is...... if he where to go anywhere near the essex guns and both where manned, he should be cut to pieces instantly....

well a decent pilot, i believe, will pre-shoot the primary Essex AA gun before it's in his sight. so basically the AA gun will have only 1 second missile locking time (which is obviously not enough to shoot down a jet) before it gets blown up when it meets a good pilot.

[Moke]

Re: Is it "moral" to base rape carrier in a jet?

well a decent pilot, i believe, will pre-shoot the primary Essex AA gun before it's in his sight. so basically the AA gun will have only 1 second missile locking time (which is obviously not enough to shoot down a jet) before it gets blown up when it meets a good pilot.

"Should" was the operative word in my post ..... My point was simply that simply, that 2 manned Essexguns should be feared like a bat out of hell, no matter how good the pilot is....

But we'll see what EA manages to screw up next time:laugh:

[x0pht]

Re: Is it "moral" to base rape carrier in a jet?

"Should" was the operative word in my post ..... My point was simply that simply, that 2 manned Essexguns should be feared like a bat out of hell, no matter how good the pilot is....

But we'll see what EA manages to screw up next time:laugh:

hehe well that's true though, two Essex AA's manned with skilled gunners are one of the greatest dangers to a jet pilot.

[jamie321]

Re: Is it "moral" to base rape carrier in a jet?

i can use the essex guns pretty well against most jets , i dont use the missiles much because once you get good at aiming with the guns you can hit anything that you can see.
when i come across a good pilot raping the carrier i usually ask for a few supply crates dropped next to me and then i am invincible! MOHAHAHA!!!!:laugh:

[Sloi sauce]

Re: Is it "moral" to base rape carrier in a jet?

Base raping carriers is for people too scared to go air to air with someone. It's usually someone of lesser skill afraid to get shot down. But, it will continue regardless of what I say.

The bottom line is, it's a lack of sportsmanship. Yes, I realize games there for entertainment and people enjoying winning. Sports are the same way. People enjoy winning. But even my 8 year old son knows to high five the other team at the end of a soccer game.

Portions bolded for emphasis. I completely agree...

Public servers are meant to be fun diversions from the tensions of every day life: why produce more by creating unnecessary problems ? It seems to me that one would derive more pleasure and excitement from the air challenge, and the failure to willingly accept it reveals a certain fear of competition.

Regardless, things won't change.

[Uncleadolph]

Re: Is it "moral" to base rape carrier in a jet?

Well, its VERY annoying on wake when you havn't captured bases. But APCs and Choppers are the worst.

-Ben

[BigBadBob]

Re: Is it "moral" to base rape carrier in a jet?

Yes it is. Keep them pinned down on the carrier. Hit them before they can hit you.

[Moke]

Re: Is it "moral" to base rape carrier in a jet?

i can use the essex guns pretty well against most jets , i dont use the missiles much because once you get good at aiming with the guns you can hit anything that you can see.
when i come across a good pilot raping the carrier i usually ask for a few supply crates dropped next to me and then i am invincible! MOHAHAHA!!!!:laugh:

Next time you play, I wann be there... I need those dang 25 repair points

[jakswan]

Re: Is it "moral" to base rape carrier in a jet?

I think everyone will play their own way, I like to think I do what is best my team, which is normally trying to cover the chopper pilot.

If the other team are down to last base then it's a fair target imho, otherwise I try to stay away.

I do enjoy Wake, you normally find a couple of J10's hammering the carrier but their so preoccupied with the easy kills the always miss their main base going, they then leave their team wide open to Air dominance.

I just wish EA would change the scoring system, far too much me me me in BF2 imho.

[AlphaNut]

Re: Is it "moral" to base rape carrier in a jet?

If the other team are down to last base then it's a fair target imho, otherwise I try to stay away.

I'd say that the exact opposite is true. If they are down to their uncappable last base then I will not attack the uncappable. However, if there is one other flag left where they can spawn to circumvent being raped I will rain death upon them

[Auto-ER-]

Re: Is it "moral" to base rape carrier in a jet?

Who plays a game not to win? You keep their air down, and keep killing them and bleeding their tickets....you win.

I've had my ass handed to me on the carrier, and handed people their ass on the carrier, no biggie, certainly nothing for the kiddies to cry about.

[PBJTime]

Re: Is it "moral" to base rape carrier in a jet?

I will alter my stance somewhat and say that saying it's lame or "immoral" may be a bit harsh. I do think it it's not something you "should" do but I can see how people may think this is how you maintain air superiority in the game so to each his own. Personally, I'll let you get in the air but that's just because that's how I do business. I like a challenge. The worse thing that could happen is I die and get just a little bit smarter and better.

I definitely don't repeatedly hit the carrier but I'll admit I've bombed it a time or two. This happens when I'm chasing some plane around and end up over the carrier. If there's a target of opportunity, I'll hit it but I don't make it a habit. I'm usually busy responding to squad leader's requests or keeping the choppers or other planes off my teams back. This usually leads to low scores for a pilot but I am not here for score. I just do what I need to do to help the team.

To sum up my last post for the guy who couldn't read that whole thing, "no."

[AlphaNut]

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I love to just keep the enemy jets busy when piloting myself. Stick to them like a chewing gum on an old boot. It is very satisfying to have your teammates thank you for keeping the bombs off their heads. Even though you don't make many points that way you reward your team by letting them drive around without fear of air to ground missiles, and bomb rain.
Also, very often I just fly around, and don't care about ground troops. All I go after is enemy jets, and choppers. Some times tanks if a number of them is hanging out at the same spot. But I'll leave the flag alone.
I've also had opportunities where my commander would tell me where he suspected the enemy commander to be hiding. So I'd keep bombing his little red dot that my commander designated on the 3d map for me :)
You can give your infantry a very clean, and happy fighting experience without dying by air/commander assets all the time.

[Tenshi]

Re: Is it "moral" to base rape carrier in a jet?

I think the ship should have more AA defence. I saw a similar ship parked in the quay at Sunderland (NE England)...it had far more antiair than the one on Oman. It had 4 of those gun towers.

The jats can take them out easy. The jets shouldnt be able to get near a ship like that.

On topic. I think it is slightly outside of "BF Morality" or even "BF Etiquette"