PROOF 1 Shot 1 Kill TANK

[JarEme]

Re: PROOF 1 Shot 1 Kill TANK

If and when anyone other than me ever publically states how it is done, I want you to go through each and every thread that ever had this topic in and start quoting me in every thread I ever said it had to do with simple geometry and physics. Then tell everyone that you admit I was right, so I can have some amusement. Actually, make a thread dedicated to saying I was right, now that would make me feel special.

Once it's publically stated, you're going to claim that that was the system you knew all along? That really makes me believe you.

One tank shooting another involves physics and geometry? Okay.

If you don't say it first, you didn't come up with it. That's the bottom line.

[IVfluids]

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Once it's publically stated, you're going to claim that that was the system you knew all along? That really makes me believe you.

One tank shooting another involves physics and geometry? Okay.

If you don't say it first, you didn't come up with it. That's the bottom line.

Oh, trust me, it is going to become very apparent what I meant if someone says it. I'm not talking basic 'hey I took a shot and killed a tank' physics. Your just gonna have to take my word for it, I am the only one who has even so much as hinted at why it works, everyone else is so far off that you will know I was right when someone finally says it lol.

You could also add into all the quotes your gonna have to dig up, the part where I say it is not about hitting a sweet spot, your gonna have a lot of quoting to do. That combined with 'basic physics and geometry' is enough proof right there that when someone finally says it, that you will know what I meant and that I was right. You might want to start using the rather shoddy search function on this board now and get a jump on it.

[edit] I should have thought of this a long time ago. I have a video up on some webspace that is dated from all the way back in august. I'll give you the link, the file is passworded though lol. I will recompile the video I made for Dekoth that uses a bit of that video from August, it literally explains everything I have been saying. I will password that video also. The main video I have up is not accompanied by the text that I had put up in my clans forums to compliment that video that explains why it happens and what you can expect out of some of the **** shots when attempting this on some of the different tanks, I'm not going to rewrite that, you can get the basic jist from watching and from watching the shorter version I made for Dekoth with text in the video.

You can check the modify date and/or the space index to see when the files where uploaded. http://tacticalpimps.nato-ladder.com/files/ look for the zip file called weaksauce.zip. It was only passed with winzip, isn't that difficult to bust. I'll put the passworded recompiled video I made for Dekoth up tomorrow also, I'll name it weaksauce2.zip, it has all the fine details explained in it. Think I'll change the file when someone gives out the right answer before anyone guesses the pass on the video, download the first vid now, cuz at that moment it won't matter if you know the pass or not, the secret would be out anyways.

If any of you download that file and get the password right, make that thread and say I was right. That is the deal, if you download it and get the pass right and see the real answers, then you owe me that, otherwise don't download it at all. By downloading it, you are agreeing to that deal, going on the honor system here.

Go ahead, be a man, take the challenge and live up to the deal.

[Snypynfool]

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that would be consistant with were you would hit a tank in real combat...
As seen in the videos from Desert Storm...

Were the M1A1 PWNED THE Iraqi Tanks..
check for those videos...

Blowing the top of the tank off from 6km...
SFO...

[IVfluids]

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Anyone?

[PsychoSnowMan]

Hey guys I think I have this figured out. Months ago when someone posted a 1shot tank vid I thought maybe the round was ricocheting off the tank armor and hitting it again, doing double damage. So I took this video and looked at it frame by frame and it looks like this is the case:
First we've got the round heading toward the tank:

Here is the round upon impact with the tank, see how that is not the normal shell explosion effect? That's the ricochet effect. Try going into a game and hitting the side armor of a tank from a very shallow angle, you'll see the same effect. It's just some sparking with no actual explosion but it still does damage to the tank:

I think this is when, or just before the round hits a second time:

And bam, there goes the tank:

If this is correct, which it seems to be, then there we have the whole 'one shot one kill' wonder-spot debunked. What do you all think?

[rtgbs7k]

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On a side note:

If you want to see a guide on how to become a good tanker then watch Kraxx... He's awesome, check the matches out at gotfrag.com

Kraxx beats "I wont tell you my 1337 password to my 1337 secret movie" guy:laugh:
but whatever...

[Jesse]

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[QUOTE=PsychoSnowMan]Hey guys I think I have this figured out. Months ago when someone posted a 1shot tank vid I thought maybe the round was ricocheting off the tank armor and hitting it again, doing double damage. QUOTE]

This spot supports my theory on this being a sort of "exploit" (only for lack of a better word) of the ricochet calculations the game does. Has anyone tried making the tank shell projectile not have any ricochet component and see if this still works?

Yep, that's what I've been saying. I would guess there are up to 3 hits in that given spot. Also, IVFluids, the ricochet theory also explains why it can occur in multiple places. All tank shells have a base 500 damage, and there are NOT any interaction with ANY materials on that tank of tank shell material vs material on the tank that have a damage mod of 2 to get the full 1000HP of the tank.

[x0pht]

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i know this sounds odd, but i did this to a T90 with an M1A2 before, the T90 didnt explode, instead, its health bars went down to 4 bars.

but i never tried it on an M1A2 itself, so im not sure about it.

[IVfluids]

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That was kind of a rhetorical question when I asked you that. It was a question where the answer was meant for you, not me

[PsychoSnowMan]

Exactly, and now thanks to KillerDragon we have visual evidence to support that theory. rawr teh scientific method

[Slapidus]

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So is te sweet spot on both tanks are just the abrams?

[PsychoSnowMan]

It should work on all tanks and APCs, you just have to find the sweet spot and get lucky. Look for a place where when the shot ricochets it has something behind it to hit.

[IVfluids]

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As promised, password: cb4whore

both videos are up on that space, aptly named WeakSauce.zip and WeakSauce2.zip You can plainly see that the first one I made was all the way back in August and it shows in the index and in the files modify date, the text that goes with it is in the private part of my clans forums, I'm too lazy to explain the parts in there about the bad shots and good shots seen in that video. The one I made for Dekoth does all the explaining, I had to re'up that one.

Grab them here: http://tacticalpimps.nato-ladder.com/files/

And it doesn't really work too well on the APCs, even worse on the APC's for China and Mec because they are taller and don't have any overhang on their turrets. But, you can do it if you think outside the box, think rubber.

JarEme, get to making that thread devoted to me and quoting all the things I said it was. I am right. It isn't a sweet spot, you can quote me on that in previous threads and replies, it is a sweet shot dealing with simple physics and geometry.

Now if only people could realize how to make the missiles work to their advantage on the jets, they do work, it just takes some responsibility on your part. Now the ones on the ground, they need to be written completely different than the ones on the jets, but that is a discussion for another thread.

[Chodda]

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It's the joint where the turret meets the body. If one shell hits just right, it will blow inward killing the crew inside. Its just not as thick plated as the rest for obvious reasons.

[IVfluids]

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It's the joint where the turret meets the body. If one shell hits just right, it will blow inward killing the crew inside. Its just not as thick plated as the rest for obvious reasons.

This is a video game, not real life. Real life actions do not pertain to this game. There is no 'crew' inside the tank, it is just a model. It is all about the shot registering multiple hits to the tank, \/\/\/ like that between the base of tank and the underside of the turret. Which is why aiming off to the side of that 'joint' is the best place to aim for, maximum travel and hits for the projectile.

If EA wanted to fix this, they would probably have to change the models. Either make the gap between the tanks hull and turret smaller so a projectile could not get between it, or make the projectile wider to get the same effect. I am going to guess that they won't fix it.