To all of you bunny hoppers, dolphin divers, and apologists...

[WarGimp]

Re: To all of you bunny hoppers, dolphin divers, and apologists...

Oops.
You're right. I made a sematic booboo.

I should have made a genaric disclaimer saying something along the lines of "Based on what they've said, their exisitng trackrecord, and everything I know about the engine (including snooping through a ton of files)..."

As I say, I hope I'm wrong, but I've got this twisted feeling in my gut that tells me otherwise.

[SilverHawk]

Re: To all of you bunny hoppers, dolphin divers, and apologists...

All they had to do to fix Bunny Hopping would be to make jumps you make without stamnia extremely small. (Like RtCW : ET)

[Digital-Boy]

Re: To all of you bunny hoppers, dolphin divers, and apologists...

I think the "fix" that I have the most issues with is reducing aircraft hitpoints. They could have just made certain weapons do more damage to them.

The not-being-able-to-fire-while-jumping thing seems like a mixed bag too. As is, jumping already makes your accuracy ****. Granted, I think something should be done to curb bunny-hopping with weapons like GLs (and maybe shotguns), but this may be taking it too far.

As for increasing LMG/SMG accuracy, I'm all for that. However, the sniper rifles, though being less accurate than they should be, are already more accurate than every other rifle in the game (according to the deviation formula at least), so is it neccessary to make them more accurate?

[medicdustin]

Re: To all of you bunny hoppers, dolphin divers, and apologists...

No way. The G3 seriously needs a buff. Like, more spare ammo.

And they haven't done anything to bunnyhopping. You just can't shoot while you do it. Not a big deal since all its defensive properties remain intact.

Amen brother! I hope that the G3 has some more clips! I often don't use the G3 because of the lack of ammunition but if there are more clips then, Wooo!

[imported_Paholainen]

Re: To all of you bunny hoppers, dolphin divers, and apologists...

THANK GOD. It is about dam time.
I am so happy they have decided to get rid of bunny hopping, dolphin diving and being able to shoot while jumping.

Even more happy that they are improving to accuracy of the sniper rifles. No more dodgey misses for me.

[imported_bigpappa]

Re: To all of you bunny hoppers, dolphin divers, and apologists...

i imagine the patch will be out sometime 2006

[jdrou]

Re: To all of you bunny hoppers, dolphin divers, and apologists...

Some of the problems I can see with taking out shooting while jumping:
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- No more jumping high enough for AT rocket to clear fence, wall, vehicle while firing. Guess you'll just have to walk out into the open now.

This one will really bug me, especially since even when it looks like you will clear the wall just standing there, you actually need to jump or you'll kill yourself because the line-of-fire doesn't match the line-of-sight.

"no firing while jumping" is NOT the right way to stop bunnyhopping. As was said earlier, just increase the stamina drain from jumping and don't allow any jumping at very low stamina.

[alwo]

Re: To all of you bunny hoppers, dolphin divers, and apologists...

So I guess that EA/DICE didn't feel it was necessary for a activation length thingy for the nade launcher correct?
Also, I hope they know that the Transport helos are gonna be much more weaker because the hit points is to be reduced AND AA is more potent. Couldn't they just introduce one of those instead of both?
Also, I think the G3 (that's the assault unlock correct?) should have the same accuracy but more ammo clips.
By the way, the patch overall sound's very promising... let's hope EA/DICE can deliver the goods

[Eddy01741]

Re: To all of you bunny hoppers, dolphin divers, and apologists...

So I guess that EA/DICE didn't feel it was necessary for a activation length thingy for the nade launcher correct?
Also, I hope they know that the Transport helos are gonna be much more weaker because the hit points is to be reduced AND AA is more potent. Couldn't they just introduce one of those instead of both?
Also, I think the G3 (that's the assault unlock correct?) should have the same accuracy but more ammo clips.

Yeah, i agree, they should put in the 15m arming range for the M203 and other GLs, that's the only foolproof solution to the nooblauncher. Extending the blast radius would make it too effective at medium range.

[Digital-Boy]

Re: To all of you bunny hoppers, dolphin divers, and apologists...

I think DICE meant for the grenade launcher to be a short-medium range weapon. I don't suspect they'll add an activation range to it.

[F-1]

Re: To all of you bunny hoppers, dolphin divers, and apologists...

I read the first six pages or so of this thread... I did not find an answer to this:

What is "The Sprint Exploit"? Can someone explain it in simple words?

[Him]

Re: To all of you bunny hoppers, dolphin divers, and apologists...

Why not make it so players can not jump sideways? Bunnyhoppers could only jump toward/away from you, and if youre going to jump over something, you usually look where you're going.

[BRUCE ALMIGHTY]

Re: To all of you bunny hoppers, dolphin divers, and apologists...

Overall I think the changes are mostly good. But, yes some of you are right there should be stamina meter not just No more Dolphin diving or proning...Still gonna be bunnyhoppers...which sucks for the Dao user and the Engineer...
Poor Engineer....crap gun, cant jump and shoot, fags still punish for stupidity for mine placement.....lol
SUPPORT YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS its about time it gets increased accuaracy...it didnt suck that bad in Desert Combat!!!!!!
Cmon...im laying prone on a roof looking at the ladder, and someone climbs up and shoots me dead in 1 shot all the while im pumping 40 rounds into him burst mode or not with the sights UP?...BS!

But the number 1 ChaNGE SHOULD HAVE BEEN...................
Allowing some of the great Mods to be Ranked.....
Why is everyone such a Vagina and can only play ranked servers?
Has anyone ever seen and downloaded the Lost Village maps in Day, dusk and night?
Freaking awesome, infantry and snipers dream....no vehicles except blackhawk in crowded city map......
Guess what...its a ghost town....nobody downloads and plays anything that they cant get their kudos on.

Totally sad.....please take your ribbon

People talk about EA really bad, but its the community to blame mostly.
If we all shunned SF and ranked servers they would be forced to change something.
But, you all need your rank and unlocks.....and ribbons.....
In DC you had all the choices already......as far as weapons were concerned.
Actually there are a number of things about the original DC game that were better that will never see again.

Know what , there are too many too name...and im tired now...laters

[Jesse]

Re: To all of you bunny hoppers, dolphin divers, and apologists...

Where are the poor performance issues and nametag bug fixes? A WORKING server browser for crying out loud, and an added filter for mods for that matter instead of just an icon with everything mixed together. Actually OPTIMIZE the compiling of the source code for crying out loud, so much more could be done to this, yet it's "nerf this, nerf that, then make this powerful because people suck".....please let the mods hit full swing soon.

[Digital-Boy]

Re: To all of you bunny hoppers, dolphin divers, and apologists...

Why is everyone such a Vagina and can only play ranked servers. ... Guess what...its a ghost town....nobody downloads and plays anything that they cant get their kudos on.

That's pretty much the reason I don't bother to DL custom maps (aside from not knowing where there, if they're good, and where to get them): because people tend not to play them.

I read the first six pages or so of this thread... I did not find an answer to this:

What is "The Sprint Exploit"? Can someone explain it in simple words?

I think that the sprint exploit is when you empty your sprint bar and continue going at sprinting speed by walking for a very brief period (to replenish your sprint bar), sprint for a quarter of a second, jump, and repeat. I don't think you lose speed when you jump, which means you could extend any sprint by jumping just before your sprint bar runs out.