Artillery is the WORST function in BF2

[SmilingRaccoon]

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BF2 is a newb game, anyone can use something like 203, c4, or commander and get a medal so why bother caring. If you dont like artillery dont play urban maps, its much harder to kill you in large maps with many spawns. Other then that, yes commander is the worst idea in any game since uav/artillery in scrims is very very retarded.....oh and its boring as hell. Cant believe some people play it 7 hours a day and can stand playing bf2 more.

[Wilkystyle]

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ye and about every other fps does not have arty so go and play world of warcraft or some other noob game like the commander whore you are

Why would I leave? I like the game just fine.

And for the record, anyone who calls anyone else an "[anything] whore" is obviously too bad at the game to do anything but go into a forum, and waste space by bitching about it.

[Soffty]

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Some good points and opinions in this thread, but i don't understand why people hate it so much. It's so bloody easy to avoid once it comes down and it doesn't last very long so your soon back on track. Also i think if there was no artillary in BF2 people wouldn't think on their feet as much, they would go straight to the flag without thinking about flanking or waiting for your opponents arty to be used. I believe there would be less tactics involved.

Also when you die you respawn in 15 seconds on ranked servers, now that isn't too long to wait to say the artillary takes alot longer before you can re-use it. Sometimes when things happen to me in BF2 that i didn't expect, it makes me become more alert of my surroundings and a better player. So when the arty strikes me (which it rarely does) then next time i stop a think, is it worth taking jumping out of the blackhawk with the 6 other players and taking the flag if the enemy arty is coming down? So i wait. and LIVE!

[Wilkystyle]

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Some good points and opinions in this thread, but i don't understand why people hate it so much. It's so bloody easy to avoid once it comes down and it doesn't last very long so your soon back on track. Also i think if there was no artillary in BF2 people wouldn't think on their feet as much, they would go straight to the flag without thinking about flanking or waiting for your opponents arty to be used. I believe there would be less tactics involved.

Also when you die you respawn in 15 seconds on ranked servers, now that isn't too long to wait to say the artillary takes alot longer before you can re-use it. Sometimes when things happen to me in BF2 that i didn't expect, it makes me become more alert of my surroundings and a better player. So when the arty strikes me (which it rarely does) then next time i stop a think, is it worth taking jumping out of the blackhawk with the 6 other players and taking the flag if the enemy arty is coming down? So i wait. and LIVE!

Take notes, people. This is how the mind of a skilled player works.

[vbl]

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I consider the SAT Scan and UAV to be far more unbalanced.

[Ruhanga]

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I consider the SAT Scan and UAV to be far more unbalanced.

I too.

[Soffty]

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Take notes, people. This is how the mind of a skilled player works.

Sarcasm or are you being serious?

[Wilkystyle]

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Sarcasm or are you being serious?

Haha, I'm being serious. :) A good player will be able to adapt to the action around them. The rest of the whiners could learn a thing or two from you.

[PermenentMarker]

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I disagree with it
There are good commanders and bad commanders

yes its click and voila but hey, its part of the game and I find it very interesting and strategic.

being a good commander involves a lot of strategy such as sending what squad to capture what points.unfortunately, its not every squad that will listen

[tw1g]

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Wow if you like the bf1942 arty so much go back to those games and use it. This is modern warfate after all. Like everyone says avoiding artillary ins't that hard jsut listen and pay attention to what's going on, use some common sense. I doubt if you were a commander and doing the same thing chances are you would not complain. Also BF2 is a completely new game so why in god's name would they make arty like in bf1942 it isn't 1942 anymore :p .

P.S - No game will always be perfect, people will always complain about some aspect of the game someone else is better at them than or they find it "noob".

[[DC]M4guy624]

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the artillery is fine, scan needs to be tweaked, the scan should only be able to spot groups of targets, and snipers should be invisible to it (and UAVs, they're wearing a bush for a reason). It makes sniping impossible, like on karkand my friend and i go to the suburb (i think) and set up near bushes and wait for the person who thinks he's sneaky to go try and get an american base behind the front lines. Well artillery scans spots me and thats the end... theres also too little warning of an impending strike, there needs to be a whistle for more than half a second so if you're paying attention its actually possible to get to cover (though artillery is like mini nukes and you cant cover from it)

[Ruhanga]

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Well It can be sometimes frustraiting to be the only one to die in barrage, But they!, Thats life.

[raceacontari]

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artillary is fine, its the sat scan and uav that is the problem. They should be more like real UAV and sat scans....even if I could fly several hundred feet in the air just like the UAV (or at least it should so you can take pot shots at it :p), I wouldn't be able to see everyone in a certain area. Gee...I sure can see right through that roof top and inside that building where that guy is hiding, or wow, look in that thick grass, there's a guy wearing a Ghillie suit, which looks like...the grass....I definitly can see him, etc. Same with sat scan...its full name is satellite scan....its hovering over the Planet, you're telling me just like the UAV, it has X-ray vision and can see through buildings/trees/grass/ bridges/anything that could block one's view?

So, its not the artillary, i think its just fine. Limiting the ability for the commander to pick out that one sniper off way yonder with artillary by not allowing sat scan or uav to pick up a motionless person that looks like a freaking bush might be nice. Same with if a person is in a building.

[livilaNic]

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If buildings offered any cover from artillery... it might not be such a gripe. ... but 9 times out of ten... I will be INSIDE a building... and arty will still kill me.

[strike]It RUINS combat. PERIOD. It does not inspire people to fight harder... It does not do ANYTHING other than give the ULTIMATE noob a weapon that he can use, without having ANY FPS skill at all. No physics, no leading, no x-hair... just click a mouse on the map... and people die.

That is the OPPOSITE of what I play these games for. I play them for the challenge. A LEVEL playing field.

I dont like it why MY commander artillery's the OTHER team either. Some look at that... and be like "cool, that flag is all soft now, I can run in and cap." I look at that... and say... "krist... now I can just run in and cap... no fun at all." I WANT firefights... I WANT tank battles... this UBER-NOOB death from the sky stuff is BULL$H1T![/strike]

Started off well then went south. Arty is not for everyone. It does take some skill to use. As gimpy stated you need mind skill's. Commander is a very hard position to play. Assualt on your position (usally main) get's hectic at time's.

I just think the arty as you spawned should be addressed. There's nothing you or anyone else can do about that but, die.

[F-1]

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The whole commander thing is a joke. the problem is that your team needs those UAVs and supply crates. They could design the game in a smarter way such that you really do not need one guy to dedicate his time only to drop supplies and use the UAV.

I believe the game can be nejoyable without the UAV. they can remove that.
The arty... it sux! just remove it as well.

supply crates... leave the game the way it was in bf42. make pads for the tanks. make healing/supply racks for the infantry in some designated places.

remove the commander.

99% of the time people do not listen to the commander. so why do you even need to issue orders! pointless!

the squads system is great, but the commander sux. remove the commander with all of its assets altogether.

also those commander assets just encourage main spawn camping. It happened a lot in many games: I saw a complete squad spawning in the enemies main base just to destroy the arty and the uav. this hurts your won team before hurting the enemy. you'd better let that squad capture a flag instead of main base camping.