Artillery is the WORST function in BF2

[Wilkystyle]

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They are also humbled because they are no longer Rambo, who can stride the battle field killing foes, but a normal soldier. Who lives in fear of the Big Guns, Guns that come in with no warning and can completely obliterate 2 enemy squads if they are close enough together.

Oh hey, kinda like real life.

[Ruhanga]

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Life is so boring, only one spawn.

[-UG-Söldner]

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Arty huh, well then take it out. If you are on a map with bombers then take a F15 or SU and take it out or better yet get a Spec Ops kit destroy it. If you have a experience commander or at least a commander who is worthy, the arty will be the most useful thing in a game. It can determine who will fight the hardest for every inch of the map.

[BudeauxBoy]

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You just click a button... where you want the explosions to happen.

I totaly agree with that.

[Jebus]

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Artillery is pretty easy to direct- but its pretty easy to avoid as long as you're aware that as soon as that flag goes white the chances are the commander is going to throw some at you. Just keep listening and take cover.

In about half my games I make it my mission to take out the commander's assets- after all, the special ops was created with this in mind. Yeah, he can drop a supply crate on them- but that restocks ME with c4 to blow up the target (getting more points) along with the crate. I've had commanders do this for an entire game.

And if he comes to repair it personally, i get to show him why my carbine is better at range than his shotgun. If my housemate is there giving sniper support, then his efforts are even more laughable.

Unfortunately, if he turns up in a tank, theres not much i can do apart from restock and take them out when he leaves again. And if he sends half his team after me, so be it- they're chasing a single man while my teams taking their CPs.

I think the artillery really grounds the game in the present/near future electronic warfare age. Theres new tools to kill people, but theres always ways around them. If you want to play with pre-digital equipment, play 1942, or Vietnam. Or even Desert Combat if you really feel the need to tear around iraq in an Abrams.

Besides, what player is going to sit around in artillery all day waiting for a commander to give an order, or for me to come blow them away? And once someones been playing for, say 10 hours, they'd be good enough to 'point-and-click' the barrage where ever they want.

The only thing I'd change is the way the scanners work maybe- maybe only localise someones position, not show you where they are and which way they're looking down to the metre. A sniper in thick woodland, or someone in a building should be harder to spot with those things- but thats another thread

[jamie321]

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THE COMMANDER POSITION GIVES ONE PERSON AN ADVANTAGE OVER EVERYBODY ELSE !!!!!! all commanders are people who are too
lazy to fight properly ! this game would be so much better without the commander feature. and artillery just gives them the ability to kill anybody , anywhere , sending orders is a waste of time on public servers and the only thing that contributes to the fun of this game (Yes it is a game and its meant to be fun for all) is the supply drop .they should just let the squadleaders give the orders .

[Wilkystyle]

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THE COMMANDER POSITION GIVES ONE PERSON AN ADVANTAGE OVER EVERYBODY ELSE !!!!!! all commanders are people who are too
lazy to fight properly ! this game would be so much better without the commander feature. and artillery just gives them the ability to kill anybody , anywhere , sending orders is a waste of time on public servers and the only thing that contributes to the fun of this game (Yes it is a game and its meant to be fun for all) is the supply drop .they should just let the squadleaders give the orders .

Pay no mind to the n00b. You know what else has no arty? Counter-Strike. Have fun.

[imported_DKP-Orkan]

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If buildings offered any cover from artillery... it might not be such a gripe. ... but 9 times out of ten... I will be INSIDE a building... and arty will still kill me.

It RUINS combat. PERIOD. It does not inspire people to fight harder... It does not do ANYTHING other than give the ULTIMATE noob a weapon that he can use, without having ANY FPS skill at all. No physics, no leading, no x-hair... just click a mouse on the map... and people die.

That is the OPPOSITE of what I play these games for. I play them for the challenge. A LEVEL playing field.

I dont like it why MY commander artillery's the OTHER team either. Some look at that... and be like "cool, that flag is all soft now, I can run in and cap." I look at that... and say... "krist... now I can just run in and cap... no fun at all." I WANT firefights... I WANT tank battles... this UBER-NOOB death from the sky stuff is BULL$H1T!

[vbl]

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Life is so boring, only one spawn.

It's even worse when someone camps it.

[Wilkystyle]

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If buildings offered any cover from artillery... it might not be such a gripe. ... but 9 times out of ten... I will be INSIDE a building... and arty will still kill me.

It RUINS combat. PERIOD. It does not inspire people to fight harder... It does not do ANYTHING other than give the ULTIMATE noob a weapon that he can use, without having ANY FPS skill at all. No physics, no leading, no x-hair... just click a mouse on the map... and people die.

That is the OPPOSITE of what I play these games for. I play them for the challenge. A LEVEL playing field.

I dont like it why MY commander artillery's the OTHER team either. Some look at that... and be like "cool, that flag is all soft now, I can run in and cap." I look at that... and say... "krist... now I can just run in and cap... no fun at all." I WANT firefights... I WANT tank battles... this UBER-NOOB death from the sky stuff is BULL$H1T!

There's nothing wrong with the artillery. If you're having THAT much trouble staying alive, perhaps you should stop playing the game. The only time artillery is more than a mild annoyance is when a GOOD commander is using it.

The ONLY thing "ruining the game" is the whiners playing it.

[ZAGOR]

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The whole concept of artillery is kinda ok:is just(IMHO) the way is inplemented that is not so "BF2" style.
Let me explain(...perhaps I'll try,with my brocken English )...Since the way it works now is not fun/realystic,and it'll be unfair to ask some1 to sit all game long in a man-powered arty,maybe a better way is to limit the commander ability to stryke arty ONLY if visually directed by a squad leader.So it(the SL) could point and click"requesting artillery barrage......" and the commander would start the stryke WITHOUT been able to see where the shells will fall or the target...kinda like u see in the movies:p .Then the point 4 any eventual killing it would be splitted beetwin the commander and the WHOLE SQUAD that directed the fire of arty.That will promote teamwork and squads formation.
Even better,it would be cool,if instead of arty,there will be mortars available to a pecific class (...SUPPORT that will be able to chose beetwen SAW or Mortars?) ONLY after his squad reach a certan number(full squad of 6?)
THAT will promote the teamwork!

So,wath do you think?...FLAME ME,I'M READY

[jamie321]

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Pay no mind to the n00b. You know what else has no arty? Counter-Strike. Have fun.

ye and about every other fps does not have arty so go and play world of warcraft or some other noob game like the commander whore you are

[-=0b|ivion=-]

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Nothing quite like being a blue falcon glory-hog is there?

Arty serves its purpose. And it exists.

The same argument could be made for grenades. Just lob them in the general direction of the enemy and the grenade does all the killing. Noob weapon? No. Why? Because it exists. Real soldiers use them in real fire-fights.

You can't pick and choose which part of warfare you would like included in the game. Artillery is included for a reason and it performs a viable function in battle.

So stop whining and take cover.

[jamie321]

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. Real soldiers use them in real fire-fights.

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you forget something THIS GAME IS NOT REAL IT'S MEANT TO BE FUN

[Ruhanga]

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you forget something THIS GAME IS NOT REAL IT'S MEANT TO BE FUN

Then it has sadly failed.