Artillery is the WORST function in BF2

[puglous]

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Yeah, no skill...and no kills for the person who uses it either. Arty's huge delay makes it all strategy. It takes little skill to kill 1 person in a whole game with it. But it takes skill to use it better than the enemy commander, or make it effective at all. I'm getting tired of people who claim anything that doesn't take super fast reflexes and marksmanship takes no skill. This an old Mario game, there's something called strategy.

[shadow_wolf]

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as it is now arty pretty much ruins the gameplay. They made it even worse since now if you kill teammates you dont get penalized, so commanders are less careful with it and just let it fly...who cares if some of your team die? its not like youll get punished

it does have its place, but the interval between strikes should be MUCH bigger. The way it is now, commanders just sit there and artillery spam. Heaven forbid you only have 1 or 2 bases left, because if that ever happens then you pretty much lose most of the time because youll get artillery spammed into submission. Not even a chance to defend *boom!*

[SilverHawk]

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If you hate Artillery so much, go back to your BF42, k?

People are upset because they can be killed by something that kills without warning and kills in one hit. If artillery didn't insta-gib, people wouldn't bi-tch because they could use their 1337 bunny hopping skills to escape the artillery. People always bi-tch about things that kill them with out being able to show their 1337 skills.

Hence the fact that people bi-tch about : Grenade Launchers, Tanks, Aircraft, Helos, Artillery, APC.

It's just a fact of life, as a Person that loves to command. That I will be insulted by enemy infantry because I keep them from Camping or break up their stalemate.

[shadow_wolf]

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or they could fix it so it isnt an arty barrage every 15 sec

[jamie321]

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I also agree with this post , arty is not fun at all , i wish someone would make a mod that would remove this feature and after all this feature simply gives TWO people in the match the ability to rain shells down wherever they want! sound unfair? it does to me . either we get rid of this or we should give everybody the ability to rain shells down wherever they ****in want LOL :evil: or we could dedicate a whole game to artillery so that the people who love it so much could **** themselves with exitement at the prospect of dropping shells on other people :p

[imported_RingMasTeR]

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I like the concept of the arty strikes, but I do think the timer needs to be doubled. And I loved the player controlled arty in bf42/dc, it took a bit a practice and was very satisfying to do when done right. Bf2 artillery does have it's place though, and it can't just be removed without something to replace it's role, in some fashion or other. But I think lengthening the timer a little or perhaps a set number of strikes... say 5 per round, would ease the hate.

[Retribution.]

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I hate ta tell ya this, but if you truely believe that, you are prolly a crappy commander.

It does take some skill (mental, not physical) to use artillery effectivly. Any shaved money can just click on a bunch of red dots, but the same can be said of any gun. Point, shot, dead, right?

Wrong.

You have to know how and when to pull that trigger in order to maximuze the damage you do. Same with artillery. Do you fire on their main base in hopes of causing distruction to players and vehicle assets, or do you hit the front lines to open ways for your boys to move in, OR do you save it for when a flag goes neutral and no-one has a hope of getting there to stop the enemy from capping it?

It's something that some people can use better than others.
Thus, it requires "skill".

Suck it up.

Get real will ya, a fkin chimp could use the arty in battlefield 2 and you know it, so dont give us all that horse****e thats theres some great unfound "tactic" to using it because all in all there is not, and further still, if im not mistaken the thread starter is asking for the "tactical" arty being removed from bf2 because it's crap and (from what i imagine) he wants driveable arty back in AKA bf1942, you know.. that thing that really does take SKILL

so
he wants the skilless thing taken out of the game and maybe something harder in place, but your defending it, why? :laugh:

dont like a challenge?

[WarGimp]

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It does take some skill (mental, not physical) to use artillery effectivly. Any shaved money can just click on a bunch of red dots, but the same can be said of any gun. Point, shot, dead, right?

Missed something there?

I'm not saying that there is some uber mystical talent to clicking on the screen.
I'm saying some people know how to use Artillerty better than others.
Thus, there is skill involved.

Reflexes aren't the only form of skill.

(Like crackin coconuts with a nerf bat 'round here sometimes)

[BartMan84]

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I love to use arty but i hate getting killed by it.

[imported_RingMasTeR]

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It does take some skill (mental, not physical) to use artillery effectivly. Any shaved money can just click on a bunch of red dots, but the same can be said of any gun. Point, shot, dead, right?

Hmm... must be shaving for a rainy day?

just joshin ya m8!

[raceacontari]

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I think it is a good feature, but it should be more limited than it is. Dont know how its just annoying. Why? Because it ruins squad tactics and teamwork. If you are ever with more than one other guy in a spot, you can bet within 30 seconds artillary is going to rain down on you.

I think that would be sweet to have the manual artillary again, though I never really did figure out how to use it in bf1942.

My tactic for avoiding art is when I nuetralize a flag, I run like hell. this prevents you from being killed by artillary, plus if any spec ops put c4 on the flag, they wont be able to get you. AFter some time has passed, if nothing happens, then I go in.

So...I have mixed feelings about it, its so nice to have to clear out an area, but sometimes it feels like its just a bit too much.

[Saureco]

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Artillery will stay. It is often the deciding factor in an engagement if an intelligent commander can soften up an entrenched enemy, delay an advance to a position, or crush his morale by hitting him where the enemy thinks he's safe.

If you want to get rid of arty, you either 1) haven't learned to use it for your benefit or 2) haven't learned to get around the enemy's use of it. If, however, you want to modify the artillery, I suggest either creating a limited number of salvos that can be fired in a round or increasing the reload time.

The trick to avoiding enemy artillery is to:

1. Keep moving
2. Listen for enemy artillery fire (launching, not landing) if you are within range. If you do hear it, notify the rest of the team.
3. Try to get indoors whenever possible
4. Start capping a flag, but run from it once you've changed it white. If you wait about 10 seconds, you'll know if the enemy has sent artillery at you.

[|D|-Char-ley_Killa]

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i think all commander stuff is stupid except supply boxes, i mean no one can sneek around at all in this game. i mean really i will try and sneek up aon a sniper or soemone and they trun around while im tryoing to knife them and shoot me in the face because thney see me on the uav

[rnu]

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Artillery requires no skill to use. Aboslutely ZERO skill. You just click a button... where you want the explosions to happen.

Arty can ruin any fun battle going on around a flag. You are having a good fight... and then you just die.

It is the single most hated thing in this game... as far as I'm concerned.

Life?

[Retribution.]

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Missed something there?

I'm not saying that there is some uber mystical talent to clicking on the screen.
I'm saying some people know how to use Artillerty better than others.
Thus, there is skill involved.

Reflexes aren't the only form of skill.

(Like crackin coconuts with a nerf bat 'round here sometimes)

so some people can press twice on the left mouse button better than others?
i know you gave alot of waffle of the effectiveness of a good commander, now how many times do you really see that?

me, hrmmm twice in 400 hours of play, and yer right about that bat.