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  • Afghani_BattleDonkey

    #1

    Another Failed Expansion.....

    Having read all the previews for BF2-Special Forces, I find it hard to justify spending money on it.


    While the concept of night vision and zip lines is a neat feature, I can not see how they can justify it as THE key element to make people want this game.


    Sure the SAS and USN Seals get some nice cool weapons, but the FOUR OTHER FACTIONS ALL GET THE SAME MEC WEAPONS FROM BF2!!!!

    Cool infantry weapons was what I thought was going to be a major part of this expansion. Yes, I see some nice infantry oriented maps, but what about the guns?!

    The Russians alone have produced some very innovative designs as of late; what about the VSS Vintorez from Desert Combat?

    Almost any weapons manufactured in any country could have been included for the Rebel and Insurgent factions; doesnt take much imagination to consider that they could smuggle these weapons in, supplied by wealthy, foreign sympathizers.

    Again, we see favouritism towards the western forces that was apparent in the map balance issues of the original BF2.

    Why would I want to play as anyone other than SAS or Seals?! What new and exciting things are there for the Spetnaz, MEC, Insurgent and Rebel forces?!

    Nothing.

    There are excellent BF2 maps coming out from the modding community, AND THEY ARE FREE.

    Yes, I can already see players moaning they were autoswitched to the team that didnt have the nice shiney new weapons.

    Why pay $40 for an expansion that give you so little in return?

    I pray that this is addressed with some cool new unlocks, but again, why should you have to work so hard when playing the FOUR non-western factions just to get some cool new toys when the TWO Western factions get all new weapons from the get-go?


    Well, I hope against odds that this isnt another BF: Vietnam by the EA boys in Vancouver....

    Let me know what you guys think.

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    Here are a few examples of guns that COULD have made it into the game...

    Assault Rifles:











    Spec Ops Rifles





    Sniper Rifles





    Machine Guns



  • wartorn

    #2
    Re: Another Failed Expansion.....

    Originally posted by Afghani_BattleDonkey

    *MegaSnip*

    Let me know what you guy think.
    Its an interesting expansion; but it really doesn't reach the potential that comes to mind when you say "Special Forces Expansion". We're all starved for new maps so we're gonna shell out but really, this puppy needed another six months of baking.

    I have a pet peeve about the whole Mods are free misconception but I'll spare everyone, only to point out that Mods don't have parent companies with deadlines and salaries. We won't see any major mods until next summer at the earliest - you wan't 8 more months of Kubra Dam?

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    • BurnTheWeed

      #3
      Re: Another Failed Expansion.....

      Custom maps can't be played on Ranked servers. So all the people who love infantry-focused maps (and judging by all the Urban Only servers, there's a lot of them) will likely buy the expansion so they can get more of the kind of action they want with the statistics-tracking they enjoy.

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      • Afghani_BattleDonkey

        #4
        Re: Another Failed Expansion.....

        I can understand the idea of stats building to get more out of the game. Beyond picking up unlocks though, I dont see any reason to play on ranked servers now.


        Unlocks bring a new element to the game. The ranks have NO impact on gameplay other than commander selection.

        I have all the unlocks that I want.

        If you need to look at your BF2 stats all the time to validate your life, you've got all lot more problems to deal with in the REAL WORLD, and you should start spending more time dealing with that instead of playing so much BF2....

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        • BurnTheWeed

          #5
          Re: Another Failed Expansion.....

          Originally posted by Afghani_BattleDonkey
          I can understand the idea of stats building to get more out of the game. Beyond picking up unlocks though, I dont see any reason to play on ranked servers now.


          Unlocks bring a new element to the game. The ranks have NO impact on gameplay other than commander selection.

          I have all the unlocks that I want.

          If you need to look at your BF2 stats all the time to validate your life, you've got all lot more problems to deal with in the REAL WORLD, and you should start spending more time dealing with that instead of playing so much BF2....
          While I agree, stats are little more then self-masturbation, there is also some fun to trying to get them. If anything they might get you to try something with the game you normally wouldn't do. And it's interesting to see how you've progressed throughout your BF2 experience, and the only way to track that is to play on ranked servers.

          And now it seems like you might be able to play with your SF unlocks in regular BF2, so that's a definite plus.

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          • BigBadBob

            #6
            Re: Another Failed Expansion.....

            one thing that will be bad in SF? Grenade launchers. They say it's "infantry oriented".

            well that means all greanade launchers all the time. It sucks, but it's true.

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            • noobeffect

              #7
              Re: Another Failed Expansion.....

              The expansion isn't going to impress most, especially since the announcement that it was going to be more infrantry-based which when I heard that, I thought, "Battlefield: Counter-Strike" but I'm still going to buy it and check out the new weapons and what not.

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              • HABO3

                #8
                Re: Another Failed Expansion.....

                Why would I want to play as anyone other than SAS or Seals?! What new and exciting things are there for the Spetnaz, MEC, Insurgent and Rebel forces?!
                hell na it's gonna be all about playing as insurgents and rebels when I get my copy that's for sure

                you're right about limiting insurgents and rebels to russian weapons though...I've seen videos of militia/guerilla/rebel type forces using G3s, FN FALs and M-16s so why not let them use these weapons in the expansion??? just because you're a bad guy don't mean you gotta always use kalashnikovs

                that pecheneg and mini-SS looked ****ing nice though, wish DICE were smart enough to think to put somethin like that in the game

                also, I think it would've been cool if the insurgents had somewhat random clothing...its probably gonna look kinda funny seeing the same three insurgent medics running around with the same brown pants and the same white shirt...they all shop at the same store!

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                • HicRic

                  #9
                  Re: Another Failed Expansion.....

                  The other four factions don't get the same loadout as the MEC. I know for a fact there's an RPG, and that's not US Navy Seals or SAS. Is that really the only difference?

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                  • Mr. ADHD

                    #10
                    Re: Another Failed Expansion.....

                    They do shop at the same store...it's called Walmart.

                    Anyway...

                    Why complain about a game you haven't played and you're not going to buy? Not to mention Mr. Vancouver, who gives a crap what you think. So why complain. People will buy the expansion pack regardless of what you or I have to say.

                    Why am I even bothering.

                    You stick with vanilla...I'm reloading my 203. hehe.

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                    • Afghani_BattleDonkey

                      #11
                      Re: Another Failed Expansion.....

                      Originally posted by Nodhere
                      Not to mention Mr. Vancouver, who gives a crap what you think.

                      Why am I even bothering.

                      Well, you obviously care enough to read my post and comment on it.

                      If you don't care, then why post?

                      Do you have anything intelligent to add?

                      I am stating why I don't think I will buy the game, and backing this up with my reasons for why I don't think its worth the money.

                      I would like to hear from others on their opinions. Whether or not people are swayed by my posts is irrelevent, and not for my self gratification.

                      This is a FORUM; a place to exchange thoughts and ideas on a common field of interest.

                      If you don't like what I've had to say, you can express your opinion and that's fine too...

                      But why not tell us why you will be buying the expansion then?
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                      "And now it seems like you might be able to play with your SF unlocks in regular BF2, so that's a definite plus."

                      BurntheWeed, I hope this is true, it may be the only reason why I would buy this expansion. From what I understand, you will not be able to use grappling hooks and zip lines on vanilla maps...

                      I think will have to wait a while after the expack is released befoer we have confirmation that the SF unlocks will work in vanilla BF2.

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                      • SmilingRaccoon

                        #12
                        Re: Another Failed Expansion.....

                        previews mean nothing, reviews mean everything...... wait for them, if good get, if not laugh at idiots that did, thus is the way of a nerd life.

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                        • HicRic

                          #13
                          Re: Another Failed Expansion.....

                          Reviews don't mean much...plently of people hate highly-rated games and others love games which get low reviews.

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                          • Deadpoetic

                            #14
                            Re: Another Failed Expansion.....

                            what the hell do you want to do with an underwater rifle?????

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                            • DrunkenPirate
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                              • Mar 2005
                              • 4210

                              #15
                              Re: Another Failed Expansion.....

                              All I have to say is: PoE = 0$

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