The Real USS Essex

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  • RWS_Hossman

    #16
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    Awesome post, and very funny. I love the commentary you gave the pictures with. It helped ease the pain of the beating I (and the Marines) had on a couple of maps last night. *Darn* MEC wouldn't let us off the *darn* boat!

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    • AZwldcats

      #17
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      I wish these hovercraft were really in BF2 unlike the boats...

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      • Fullforce

        #18
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        Why thank you. ( i say thank you way too much in my own threads)

        @shadow2k1, this is true, but it is down to game balance - you don't want to make the ship a fortress.

        Where on earth are the .50 cals?

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        • Fullforce

          #19
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          Originally posted by AZwldcats
          I wish these hovercraft were really in BF2 unlike the boats...

          Ah yes, this Hovercraft WAS going to be in the game, transporting vehicles and such, but they removed it...

          Probably because of the small size of the dock (no vehicles and stuff), and limited use of the craft, and it's sheer size.

          i'd like to see why they removed it and how it works in game - maybe the physics collision engine clashed with it or something.

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          • Jesse

            #20
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            An interesting read. Although in that first picture...where's the rear Phalanx? Not to mention the black masts look cooler. :p All in all a pretty good ingame representation of the ship. Too bad we at least didn't get the below decks areas and the LCAC to go with it. There's no reason the LCAC wouldn't have worked with this, as they could have extended the below decks area to simply allow for some vehicle spawns to load into the LCAC, but alas EA is all about screwing us. =/ A nice find though, spiffy lil ship indeed. :)

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            • SomeDude

              #21
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              bah its just another boat big deal.........on another note it is my job to become the forum idiot and surpass glasseye

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              • Flux_69

                #22
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                Originally posted by SuperDonkey
                Oh and people need to stop calling them Carriers...they are Amphibious Assault Ships

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                sry but what are you talking about...that ship isnt amphibious...Amphibious means that they can swin in water and drive on land...and a carrier cant do this



                On Topic: yea its a nice ship. but its funny that you nearly cant see any waepons, but the ship can give a aircraft hell with the Phalanx guns

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                • Donkey

                  #23
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                  Originally posted by Flux_69
                  sry but what are you talking about...that ship isnt amphibious...Amphibious means that they can swin in water and drive on land...and a carrier cant do this



                  On Topic: yea its a nice ship. but its funny that you nearly cant see any waepons, but the ship can give a aircraft hell with the Phalanx guns
                  You may want to check the Navy Fact File on this before you bash the right person...They are called Amphibious Assault Ships because they support Amphibious Assaults...duh...hence the VOTL aircraft and the LCACs etc. etc....

                  I even posted the link to this….but apparently you are to dumb and think you know everything to even bother looking...so I'll post it again….and please before you make yourself look more like a fool do some research


                  Again they are NOT Carriers they are Amphibious Assault Ships... click the link below



                  Please note that the United States Navy (the people that operate these ships ) do NOT call them Carriers (that term is left for the much bigger Aircraft Carriers)

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                  • DeathFromAbove

                    #24
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                    Originally posted by Flux_69
                    sry but what are you talking about...that ship isnt amphibious...Amphibious means that they can swin in water and drive on land...and a carrier cant do this



                    On Topic: yea its a nice ship. but its funny that you nearly cant see any waepons, but the ship can give a aircraft hell with the Phalanx guns

                    N00B!

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                    • imported_Tiny
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                      • Nov 2005
                      • 268

                      #25
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                      Those "Phalanx" guns ur babbling about, aint they called Vulcan guns :P

                      And they fire like 100 shots per second O_O

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                      • CKB

                        #26
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                        no, phalanx is right. They are used to shoot down cruise missiles. The gun itself is a vulcan gun, but the whole system, gun & radar control, is called CWIS or phalanx.

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                        • jpardo

                          #27
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                          there was also an "essex" class carrier, the favorite of mine, the intrepid CV-11, decommissioned in March 1974, she was a bicentennial exhibition ship at philadelphia, pennsylvania, in 1976. uss intrepid was stricken from the naval vessel register in february 1982 and transferred to a new york city organization for further service as a museum, a role she plays to the present day.

                          (source:http://www.history.navy.mil/photos/s...nsh-i/cv11.htm)

                          more:

                          The numerous World War II vintage Essex-class carriers served over a span of nearly half a century in various configurations and at least half a dozen roles as the core of the US postwar fleet. Many of the ships were extensively modified in later years, with many boasting a reinforced angle flight deck and a mirror landing system to accomodate jet aircraft as a result of Fleet Rehabilitation and Modernization (FRAM) upgrades. The conversions included a hurricane bow and the installation of an angled flight deck which permits the simultaneous launching and recovery of aircraft.

                          The USS Essex (CV 9) was placed out of commission in reserve on 09 January 1947. The first of the World War II carriers to do so, she then underwent modernization which gave her a new flight deck, and a streamlined island superstructure. On 04 June 1947 the CNO approved Project 27A by which Essex-class carriers were modernized to be able to handle aircraft to 40,000 pounds and included the installation of two H-8 catapults, strengthening the flight deck and clearing it of guns, increasing elevator capacity and adding special provisions for jet aircraft such as blast deflectors. USS Oriskany (CV 34), the first of nine carriers modernized under this project, began conversion at the New York Naval Shipyard on 01 October 1947. USS Essex (CV 9) was recommissioned 16 January 1951, and on 23 August 1951 she went into combat in Korea, the first carrier to launch F2H Banshee twinjet fighters on combat missions.

                          (source:http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ship/cv-9.htm)

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                          • Donkey

                            #28
                            Re: The Real USS Essex

                            Originally posted by jpardo
                            there was also an "essex" class carrier, the favorite of mine, the intrepid CV-11, decommissioned in March 1974, she was a bicentennial exhibition ship at philadelphia, pennsylvania, in 1976. uss intrepid was stricken from the naval vessel register in february 1982 and transferred to a new york city organization for further service as a museum, a role she plays to the present day.

                            (source:http://www.history.navy.mil/photos/s...nsh-i/cv11.htm)

                            more:

                            The numerous World War II vintage Essex-class carriers served over a span of nearly half a century in various configurations and at least half a dozen roles as the core of the US postwar fleet. Many of the ships were extensively modified in later years, with many boasting a reinforced angle flight deck and a mirror landing system to accomodate jet aircraft as a result of Fleet Rehabilitation and Modernization (FRAM) upgrades. The conversions included a hurricane bow and the installation of an angled flight deck which permits the simultaneous launching and recovery of aircraft.

                            The USS Essex (CV 9) was placed out of commission in reserve on 09 January 1947. The first of the World War II carriers to do so, she then underwent modernization which gave her a new flight deck, and a streamlined island superstructure. On 04 June 1947 the CNO approved Project 27A by which Essex-class carriers were modernized to be able to handle aircraft to 40,000 pounds and included the installation of two H-8 catapults, strengthening the flight deck and clearing it of guns, increasing elevator capacity and adding special provisions for jet aircraft such as blast deflectors. USS Oriskany (CV 34), the first of nine carriers modernized under this project, began conversion at the New York Naval Shipyard on 01 October 1947. USS Essex (CV 9) was recommissioned 16 January 1951, and on 23 August 1951 she went into combat in Korea, the first carrier to launch F2H Banshee twinjet fighters on combat missions.

                            (source:http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ship/cv-9.htm)
                            Yes all is true but the current USS Essex that we are talking about and that is found in BF2 is NOT an Aircraft Carrier, but an Amphibious Assault Ship in the WASP class...

                            There is also the LHA class and the Tarawa class....

                            The wasp class has a 20mm Phalanx CWIS mounts, (4) 50 cals, (4) 25mm Mk38s, (2) RAM launchers, and (2) Sea Sparrow launchers...if the BF2 version had all this we wouldnt have to worry about enemy planes or choppers....

                            The link again to the trusty US Navy Fact File

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                            • HicRic

                              #29
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                              Haha, that's interesting. I always thought the huge '2' on the in-game Essex was just a reference to it being Battlefield '2'.

                              Nice thread!

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                              • 193d Klink

                                #30
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                                Phalanx is radar guided and will not stop shooting until the target no longer remains and was originally designed as a Anti-missle weapon. If you have ever seen one of these fire in real life it is friggin amazing to see. I just wish they were 1/2 as good in the game as they are in RL.

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