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  • vbl

    #16
    Re: pkm

    Originally posted by Wynterheart
    no way, the saw is 10x more accurate.
    Actually, you're both somewhat wrong.

    All of the support guns are the same accuracy wise, except that the SAW and Type 95 have higher maximum deviations - which means that if you hold the trigger down, the SAW and 95 will continue to deviate more and more when the RPK and PKM have stopped adding additional deviation for additional bullets.

    But here's the twist.

    The SAW and Type 95 fire at 900 RPM whereas the RPK fires at 600 RPM and the PKM at 450 RPM. So if you fire in bursts (keeping the SAW's extra deviation under wraps) the extra rate of fire will yield more hits, giving the appearance of better accuracy.

    The other sh1tty part of the support weapons is that the bullets travel at about half the speed when compared to other guns, primarily so you can see the neat tracer effects. That makes hitting a moving target much harder with the support guns.

    EDIT: Fixed PKM ROF.

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    • Beerman

      #17
      Re: pkm

      Originally posted by ||ass||variable
      That, and it's a crappy gun. RPK-74 wipes it anyday.
      I agree with this guy only reason to use PKM is to replace SAW or Type whatever 98 I think. Personally Id even use the SAW before PKM it might be more powerful but 60 bullets in the chest vs 10, 60 wins in my opinion.

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      • Beerman

        #18
        Re: pkm

        Originally posted by ||ass||variable
        Actually, you're both somewhat wrong.

        All of the support guns are the same accuracy wise, except that the SAW and Type 95 have higher maximum deviations - which means that if you hold the trigger down, the SAW and 95 will continue to deviate more and more when the RPK and PKM have stopped adding additional deviation for additional bullets.

        But here's the twist.

        The SAW and Type 95 fire at 900 RPM whereas the PKM and RPK fire at 600 RPM. So if you fire in bursts (keeping the SAW's extra deviation under wraps) the extra rate of fire will yield more hits, giving the appearance of better accuracy.

        The other sh1tty part of the support weapons is that the bullets travel at about half the speed when compared to other guns, primarily so you can see the neat tracer effects. That makes hitting a moving target much harder with the support guns.
        Man your smart man thanks for the info.

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        • imported_Psycho

          #19
          Re: pkm

          The pkm is really bad it has more power but the bullets don't hit and the slow rate of fire means your dead before the bullets hit, its good at medium/close range but at long range you better get running towards the enemy or get your pistol out, the SAW is the best support gun, with the mec one coming second PKM comes third as it has no long range use, i personnaly think the chinese one is worse as the iron sight takes up the whole screen and when you fire the small aimer is covered by the muzzel flash so you can't shoot.
          I would give all the guns a go but on city maps where your going to be close range shooting use the PKM if your going to have to shoot at any distance use the default gun.

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          • Reign.
            Member
            • Jul 2007
            • 219

            #20
            Re: pkm

            You kids know nothing. The PKM is the second best unlock with the G36 number one. The trick with the PKM is aim low and keep ur finger on the trigger untill the targets are down. Im not BSin you try it for awhile and you would not wanna use any other weapon besides the g36.

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            • vbl

              #21
              Re: pkm

              Originally posted by REIGN
              You kids know nothing. The PKM is the second best unlock
              Prove it.

              I got my data from the UBAR weapon information.

              Can you supply us with the URL to the part of your ass that you're pulling your information from?

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              • Hu.Z_of_PLA

                #22
                Re: pkm

                actually, MEC LMG is the best overall, striking a perfect balance between damage (35) and ROF (600). chinese and US support are great for close range spamming, but cannot do anything in the long range (weaker bullet + more deviation), PKM is the long range MG.

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                • Shooty McStabbyface

                  #23
                  Re: pkm

                  Thought I'd chime in on this topic. I'm trying to get basic support badge in order to get First Sergeant unlocked so I have been using the PKM almost exclusively. (already got it but server crashed) I have found that this gun's accuracy actually gets better the longer you fire at a target. I was trying burst fires and not hitting **** so I tried just holding it down and found this to work much better. Give it a try, seems to work for me. Otherwise, I don't use this kit much at all...

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                  • vbl

                    #24
                    Re: pkm

                    Originally posted by Shooty McStabbyface
                    Thought I'd chime in on this topic. I'm trying to get basic support badge in order to get First Sergeant unlocked so I have been using the PKM almost exclusively. (already got it but server crashed) I have found that this gun's accuracy actually gets better the longer you fire at a target. I was trying burst fires and not hitting **** so I tried just holding it down and found this to work much better. Give it a try, seems to work for me. Otherwise, I don't use this kit much at all...
                    The accuracy doesn't get better - you just put more bullets into the air, so you have a higher chance of hitting.

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                    • TCP50

                      #25
                      Re: pkm

                      I think the PKM rocks. This is the kit I use most of the time and have got a good nack for it. If you are shooting at someone that is prone, aim just below his head and let of about 2-3 3 shot bursts, he will drop. And if you miss he most likley will run to get away from the spray. And you cant beat finishing off choppers.

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                      • Hoagie

                        #26
                        Re: pkm

                        Originally posted by The_Misfit
                        give the PKM time and you'll come to appreciate its power.... do as the above poster said, aiim low on prone targets. Always fire this thing from the prone position, unless ur 5' from your target (even then its iffy if you'll hit them lol).

                        But the gun has great range and stopping power - when the bullets hit. Short bursts, almost single firing it works best. Though at times its a great weapon for supressing fire, just spam it in a direction and let ur teammates take care of business....

                        It was my 2nd unlock and frustrated me to no end in the beginning, but I'm quite happy with it now...
                        Couldnt agree with you more....It was hard to get used to but now I would rather play with it.....

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                        • (BG)Patton
                          Member
                          • Jun 2007
                          • 829

                          #27
                          Re: pkm

                          PKM is about the only weapon i use. the power and accuracy is way better than any other support weapon. as for the prone guys and aiming in general, aim at them with thier heads in the MIDDLE of the iron sight, it may sound weird, but headshots are worth it. the good old 4 round burst works every time

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                          • rombaft

                            #28
                            Re: pkm

                            I find the PKM much better then the saw, on long range it isn't very good, true, but on mid range to close combat it's extremely good due to it's massive power.

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                            • jdrou
                              Member
                              • Jul 2006
                              • 1860

                              #29
                              Re: pkm

                              Originally posted by ||ass||variable
                              I got my data from the UBAR weapon information.
                              Their RoF for the PKM is wrong. It's actually 450 rpm, not 600. This means all the standard LMGs do more damage per second than the PKM (assuming all the rounds hit).

                              The only advantage the PKM has is accuracy. Since it fires fewer rounds to do the same damage it will usually have a smaller total deviation.

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                              • vbl

                                #30
                                Re: pkm

                                Originally posted by jdrou
                                Their RoF for the PKM is wrong. It's actually 450 rpm, not 600. This means all the standard LMGs do more damage per second than the PKM (assuming all the rounds hit).

                                The only advantage the PKM has is accuracy. Since it fires fewer rounds to do the same damage it will usually have a smaller total deviation.
                                Fixed!

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