I'm so sick of airpower ruining this game!

[Yezo]

Re: I'm so sick of airpower ruining this game!

wait, IME since the latest patch the AA is faster but it doesn't lock on unless a jet is close, much closer than before. On top of that the AA doesn't hardly ever actually hit the jets. choppers, NP but Jets have it easy.

I dare you to take your jet (J10- so you can do all the manuvers you want) and fly over any USMC carrier while I'm in the SAM-Site Placement. I'll guarantee you I'll hit you and worse.

Missles do lock onto players when there is no lock. Due to the nature of their missing you can easily calculate that into a factor of how much you can miss and have it track them.

I've taken out J10 aces with the new AA placements. How? Well unless they have their flares out when they try and make their escape out of my range (Fog view Distance, not lock-on, you can still hit them if their are visible) they are pretty much flying debri.

[Cap`N Hagen]

Re: I'm so sick of airpower ruining this game!

LOL MassKiller.
I dont doubt you think your good, but 4 out of 5 times I got that thing destroyed with my guns before u get a lock.

[amish marauder]

Re: I'm so sick of airpower ruining this game!

masskiller. I'll take u up on that dare. Like Cap' stated, you might be good but those AA guns don't match the jets. lock ons are silly if you even get a lock on before its too late...AA guns and aircraft carrier anti aircraft guns don't do much better.

we can meet online if you like and if you kick my butt I'll be man enough to admit it right here that I was wrong.

[Ghost-MOH-]

Re: I'm so sick of airpower ruining this game!

How to avoid getting killed by an aircraft:
1. Run towards it
2. Take cover
3. Get the hell out of your vehicle and wait for it to pass
4. Don't attract its attention

[Yezo]

Re: I'm so sick of airpower ruining this game!

masskiller. I'll take u up on that dare. Like Cap' stated, you might be good but those AA guns don't match the jets. lock ons are silly if you even get a lock on before its too late...AA guns and aircraft carrier anti aircraft guns don't do much better.

we can meet online if you like and if you kick my butt I'll be man enough to admit it right here that I was wrong.

Like I said, AA missles dont need lock-ons. By the code defined they are created as an active pawn with a tracer. They can fire and if your in their path you become a lock.

HEnce why many people say they are ineffective, yet when people know how to use them they know how to use them effectively.

I'm a fighter pilot. I know the machine in and out. I know where its strengths are, but more importantly I know how to beat it.

You dont seem to realize all the lock on, on your screen is, is a klaxon going off in his cockpit.

Anyways Its 12:00 AM here as I'm in EST, I'll hit you up in the morning if your ready for it.

LOL MassKiller.
I dont doubt you think your good, but 4 out of 5 times I got that thing destroyed with my guns before u get a lock.

I dont need to doubt. You can pull off whatever you want to blow me to smithereines, but the blunt fact is the second your in my view distance I can pop off AA missles without a lock and have them locked onto you.

The rotating AA gun will serve as a deterrent.

[PsychoSnowMan]

The main point is that the IGLA/Stinger AA devices are ineffective, not the Essex with 5x more missles and a cannon attached to it.

[Swanston]

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I'm sorry masskiller your wrong. There is one single maneuver that a missile cannot trace, and thats a barrol role. And for all you noobs a barrol role isnt hold left, or right keys so it turns around like a tard. A true barrol role is holding the down key, and the left or right key, so it makes a corkscrew type motion.

Missiles (In BF2) cannot follow that path, they simply can't. 100% of the time if i'm locked on, I do that maneuver and I evade all the time.

I'm an absolute horrible pilot, I can't bomb worth crap, I'm decent at hitting other planes down, but evading in this game is rediculous, you only need to know 1 maneuver, and its totaly immaculate.

EDIT: However you could probably definatly be able to kill me in the USS Essex thing, that can take down anything for it can launch missiles non stop and it has a bad as$ cannon (but if we agreed not to use that essex, or use the essex but not the gun, I could dodge the missiles all day, holding down and left/right keys works 100% of the time.)

[exho]

Re: I'm so sick of airpower ruining this game!

hide inside buildings

[-GRimm-]

Re: I'm so sick of airpower ruining this game!

The thing most you noobs do is fligh at like 100 to 50 meters. Thats sucide. Keep it above like 500 and your good to go massive I'll own your ass so hard you'll go crying to your mommy.:laugh:

[amish marauder]

Re: I'm so sick of airpower ruining this game!

on wake2007 they shut all the doors. no running into a building there.

[amish marauder]

Re: I'm so sick of airpower ruining this game!

and i'll be on in the morning..will look here on this thread and try to get a round with you for sure.

[DU_is_good_4U]

Re: I'm so sick of airpower ruining this game!

I know you all probably think I'm just saying this because I'm not a pilot...maybe that's true, but here me out. Airpower is just ripping apart this game. If the other time has 1 more good pilot than yours, first off, any strategy or team work becomes impossible. If you are getting shot at by a sniper you can take cover in an area where he can't get you, and perhaps sneak up behind him. If you see a tank coming, you can run to an area where it can't get you. But when there's airpower in the game all you can do is get in the AA, get in another aircraft, or die. AA is luck as far as I can see, and airpower...well, what the heck kind of strategy or teamwork could you use there? Aircraft is just about aim and experience as far as I can see. Second, where's this rock paper scissors system EA speaks of? If air is paper, what are the scissors? AA misses 90% of the time, and gets a team kill another 7% for no logical reason. Meanwhile it just takes one quick swoop from the heli or jet and that AA is blown to bits. Worst of all is the ability they have to repair. If you damage a heli or jet (damage a jet, aren't I hiliarous), you can get it off your teams back for a few seconds, but get no credit for your help. Fourth, airpower has no reflection on the skill of who it kills, just on the one doing the killing, unlike infantry, tanks, and maybe even AA. It is just like artillery, you simply need to stay out of large crowds and hope to god you get lucky. I don't have anything against pilots. I don't blame them for using airpower while it is there, but the airpower is just taking so much out of the game.

Go Play CS, thats for people like you. BF2 does not need your kind!

[FiveO]

Re: I'm so sick of airpower ruining this game!

Someone call the wambulance!

Here ya go...!

[imported_Fig]

Re: I'm so sick of airpower ruining this game!

Someone call the wambulance!

Shut the **** up.

This guy is totaly right, air power dominates the game, its been proven before. The only thing that can kill a jet is a better jet pilot. Therefore, the team with the best jet pilot controls the sky, which usually translates into control of everything else.

This is easily why city maps with no or little air power are more common and popular than maps with wide open spaces (Clean sweep) and lots of airpower.

The AA missles actually predict and seek better, but you can still avoid them just by turning as hard as the thign will turn, which is very simple for even a novice jet pilot. The AA is not good enough, it still sucks against jets. MAybe it would be better if it was just as good at tracking as it is now, but it was about 2x faster at flying through the sky (as the missles actually are, like mach 3...) and maybe if you could actually target stuff as far away as you could see (600 meters about, where you cant target anythign 365 meters or farther away with AA) then the AA would be good.

[imported_fvbyfv]

Re: I'm so sick of airpower ruining this game!

Im a pilot and a medic, its what I play all the time. I prefer the bomber with my co-pilot (Guy that always co's for me)

I dont think air power is ruining the game however I do believe that the AA needs work (That and the whole stray missle hitting friendlies...if you cant make the missle "lock on" to a distinct heat source then at least make it not hurt friendlies) Its a tricky balance and I think the speed is just right for the AA as it sits now, the problem lies in its tracking. A good sharp turn at the right moment should make the missle miss (not a circle, Im talking a afterburn sharp turn), a flare should make it miss also but me flying in a circle or just straight should not (how many times have you seen the AA missle fly right at a plane then at the last second fly off a different way)

A lock on should be a lock on plain and simple. Now to counter it enemy pilots should have 3 tones, a attempting to lock tone, a lock tone and a missle away tone.