Snipers! Just stop it already.

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  • vbl

    #1

    Snipers! Just stop it already.

    To those of you who keep playing the Sniper class - stop. Just let it go. You're not Tom Berenger or Barry Pepper or Bill Paxton's character from "Navy SEALS". In BF 2 you're a near-waste of a ticket running around in a fuzzy suit with neither the will nor the way to help the team. You're knife bait, the butts of jokes, and the source of much laughter when people kill you in entertaining, humiliating ways. You're often the last guy to be killed on the map, and every one of your teammates groans when it happens - they all know that you have no chance of saving the game.

    I'll preface the rest of this with a fact: I rarely get killed by snipers. I'd say 1 death every 5-8 rounds is due to sniper fire. I spend most of my time on foot, so that's coming from a diehard infantryman and not a tanker or aviator.

    I've never agreed with the Sniper as a playable class, honestly - it has no place in a "squad-based" action game. Further, anything the Sniper can do in BF 2, other classes can do better - much better. Most of us can outgun a sniper rifle with a carbine, AT rocket, or even a pistol.

    The claymores are kinda okay, but you only get two. They have weird activation characteristics, and they often don't kill an enemy - just maim them. Oh, and I can disarm them as an Engie if I see em ahead of time (which can be done rather handily, if you're careful). Teammates set them off all the time too, so your well-laid defensive plan is often ruined.

    I know many of you value your skill shooting people with the sniper rifle, but it's not really helping your team. Most snipers I've seen, even the good shots, are almost always unwilling to do much more than sit, watch, and shoot. I've seen friendly and enemy snipers alike parked at a flag, watch it turn to the other team, and still sit. And sit. And probably get smeared with artillery or a SRAW soon thereafter.

    I guess I'm asking, or just suggesting, two things:

    1) Stop playing the sniper kit and start using another class. Hell, play like you would a sniper, but revel in the chance to, when enemy armor shows up, actually help your teammates with some C4 or an AT rocket. Or hey, take a flag - it's a good thing.

    2) Stop playing the sniper kit

    Before you inevitably reply with your retort, I'll say this - I know there are exceptions. Wonderful exceptions, I am sure. Some of you may be the best, most selfless, pinpoint accurate, team player snipers out there. But if that's your playstyle, could you be doing an even better job and having even more fun with another class? My hunch is, yes. I'm not trying to preach that you ought to play the game a certain way (some of you are going to become VERY defensive of your right to play however you want) - I just want you to rethink how you fulfill your self-proclaimed role.

    Finally, I'll mention that I absolutely don't want a homogeneous game where everyone plays the exact same class and does the exact same thing (some Karkand servers with pandemic noobtubery approach that scenario, unfortunately), but I also believe that you should have a real and significant chance to contribute - and I don't think that the sniper class, even IF the rifles killed in one shot, can ever provide that in BF 2 (henceforth known as the "6-kit" game).

    (oh, and keep the discussion light - draft your responses with the same candor at the heart of this post)
  • UnrealAlex

    #2
    Re: Snipers! Just stop it already.

    Um, we play it because its FUN? Its a game get over it. I can do whatever is fun to me. If someoen likes playing sniper, why shouldn't they?
    Whats the point of playing Assault? Assault has as much sense to it as a sniper. All it can do is kill.A medic is essentially an assault with use in a squad.
    You wrote like an english essay on why people shouldn't play snipers...

    I don't see what your beef is...

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    • Orion126

      #3
      Re: Snipers! Just stop it already.

      i make a priority to artie a location where there is a sniper...i hate 'em...

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      • UnrealAlex

        #4
        Re: Snipers! Just stop it already.

        Originally posted by Orion126
        i make a priority to artie a location where there is a sniper...i hate 'em...
        I tip my hat off to you. Waste an artillery strike on one camping probably a noob sniper. You're no better then the snipers that you hate.

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        • downthesun

          #5
          Re: Snipers! Just stop it already.

          I agree with you a little bit, but if there wasn't a sniper class it'd take away from the game. Everyone would soon be hiding everywhere without the fear of being picked off.

          It sounds to me like you haven't been very successful with the sniper class and you're angry about it. That's alright, though, everyone deserves to be angry once in a while. If you need a tissue later on, let me know, I'll be there for you...to punch you in the face.

          FYI, I normally play as Spec Ops and Assault. So don't assume I'm some sniper loving hippy. I just want you to realize that this entire thread is a complete waste. Jump off a bridge, spare us anymore of your nonsense.

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          • Orion126

            #6
            Re: Snipers! Just stop it already.

            better to use it on one camping n00b than have him kill or terrorize* the men...


            *Sun Tzu wrote in the Art of War:"Kill one to terrorize a thousand"

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            • UnrealAlex

              #7
              Re: Snipers! Just stop it already.

              Originally posted by Orion126
              better to use it on one camping n00b than have him kill or terrorize* the men...


              *Sun Tzu wrote in the Art of War:"Kill one to terrorize a thousand"
              You're not going to terrorize someone by killing a camping sniper. THe sniper isnt going to terrorize anyone because if he's camping in one spot chances are he's a noob, and nothing is easier to kill in the game then a noob sniper.

              The ART of war barely applies to this game, if not at all.

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              • imported_razor

                #8
                Re: Snipers! Just stop it already.

                Good read here, i see ya. I play sniper a bit in the 64 man servers because its like my lazy mood after a bad day.

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                • Orion126

                  #9
                  Re: Snipers! Just stop it already.

                  even if the sniper doesn't kill you with one shot your much more vulnerable to other players...snipers are campers, hence their cami suits...


                  Art of War applies to everything from business to games...its strategy...

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                  • vbl

                    #10
                    Re: Snipers! Just stop it already.

                    Originally posted by downthesun
                    It sounds to me like you haven't been very successful with the sniper class and you're angry about it... If you need a tissue later on, let me know, I'll be there for you...to punch you in the face.
                    :laugh:

                    Not angry at all - you'll note that I didn't threaten to punch anyone in the face in my post, so it's debatable as to who has the anger issues. I understand that the teenage years are tender, and you're trying to assert your masculinity, so I'll pardon your incredibly lame response. I'll even dignify it with a more respectful reply...

                    I don't care to try to use the Sniper more than I have - I played a few rounds with the MEC sniper the first week I bought the game. I did decently well, and then I discovered that the Spec Ops guns are just as accurate, can be used in CQC, and have the benefit of being paired with other useful tools, like C4. AT rockets are more accurate, can be used on tanks, and are paired with a nice unlockable shotgun. Any class with a pistol is a better alternative, really, since each has additional equipment to help out in other ways.

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                    • downthesun

                      #11
                      Re: Snipers! Just stop it already.

                      Originally posted by ||ass||variable
                      :laugh:

                      Not angry at all - you'll note that I didn't threaten to punch anyone in the face in my post, so it's debatable as to who has the anger issues. I understand that the teenage years are tender, and you're trying to assert your masculinity, so I'll pardon your incredibly lame response. I'll even dignify it with a more respectful reply...

                      I don't care to try to use the Sniper more than I have - I played a few rounds with the MEC sniper the first week I bought the game. I did decently well, and then I discovered that the Spec Ops guns are just as accurate, can be used in CQC, and have the benefit of being paired with other useful tools, like C4. AT rockets are more accurate, can be used on tanks, and are paired with a nice unlockable shotgun. Any class with a pistol is a better alternative, really, since each has additional equipment to help out in other ways.

                      Thanks for playing right into my post. Just the kind of response I expected. Apparently you have no sense of humor, nor understand what sarcasm is. :p

                      Unlike most, I don't take the Internet seriously. It's just a massive gateway to porn, idiots, and more porn. :laugh:

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                      • shaktiserpent

                        #12
                        Re: Snipers! Just stop it already.

                        Good snipers can save the team many times over in a round,
                        and good snipers can sure as hell terrorize an enemy, been there done that.

                        Good snipers also know when it is absolutely necessary to change kit and go AT or medic,
                        because we know when the fit hits the shan.

                        edited to say: good snipers are also the best spotters.

                        Kthx.

                        p.s.: btw you aren't a rambo either, but you still play your class.

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                        • vbl

                          #13
                          Re: Snipers! Just stop it already.

                          Originally posted by downthesun
                          Thanks for playing right into my post. Just the kind of response I expected. Apparently you have no sense of humor, nor understand what sarcasm is. :p

                          Unlike most, I don't take the Internet seriously. It's just a massive gateway to porn, idiots, and more porn. :laugh:
                          Yuh huh.

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                          • DrunkenPirate
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                            • Mar 2005
                            • 4210

                            #14
                            Re: Snipers! Just stop it already.

                            I'm gonna have to agree with ||ass||variable 100% too.
                            Too many rounds I play where almost half the team are snipers and do **** all to help take flags or contribute effectively on the ground, instead they are sunbathing on top of cranes admiring the view through their rifle.

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                            • imported_razor

                              #15
                              Re: Snipers! Just stop it already.

                              Originally posted by shaktiserpent
                              Good snipers can save the team many times over in a round,
                              and good snipers can sure as hell terrorize an enemy, been there done that.

                              Good snipers also know when it is absolutely necessary to change kit and go AT or medic,
                              because we know when the fit hits the shan.

                              edited to say: good snipers are also the best spotters.

                              Kthx.

                              p.s.: btw you aren't a rambo either, but you still play your class.
                              Right on my man!! Not a good sniper but a good teamplayer, get the kit for the situation. I am only sniper to backup my team when they are charging a open area, its like a turkeyshoot!~

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