Now that only the driver counts when capping a flag...v1.03 "Super" Patch Oct 3rd

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  • imported_Wreck

    #91
    Re: Now that only the driver counts when capping a flag...v1.03 "Super" Patch Oct 3rd

    Right the fact you can add other things into the post that aren't there like the mention of points. Ok I'll give you that, but it just doesn't make sense the way you are saying. The whole problem was the speed at which a full blackhawk could cap a flag, so the logical thing would be to make the flag cap slower. There was never an issue of everyone getting assist points. I never heard anyone say why do all the people in the BH get assist, it was why should they be able to cap it in 2 seconds and then fly to the next flag. So I'm going with the face value and common sense approach on my conclusion.

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    • Harmor

      #92
      Re: Now that only the driver counts when capping a flag...v1.03 "Super" Patch Oct 3rd

      Originally posted by Wreck
      Right the fact you can add other things into the post that aren't there like the mention of points. Ok I'll give you that, but it just doesn't make sense the way you are saying. The whole problem was the speed at which a full blackhawk could cap a flag, so the logical thing would be to make the flag cap slower. There was never an issue of everyone getting assist points. I never heard anyone say why do all the people in the BH get assist, it was why should they be able to cap it in 2 seconds. So I'm going with the face value and common sense approach on my conclusion.
      I beg to differ. Part of the "whoring" of "BH whoring" IS that you get neutralize assist AND flag capture assists in addition to whatever other job you're doing.

      So if you're a medic you get all the heal points + the points from capture.
      If you're a Supply you get all the resupply points + the points from capture.
      etc...

      Since really for many of the passengers they really don't need to do anything except continually spawn on the squad leader.

      These BH squads now will deploy their passengers to capture a flag with the same speed and points they do today. This will make the actual BH helicopter more vunerable to enemy fire, but now that enemy fire has to deal with 5 infantry on the ground as well.

      It will definiately be interesting. I hope you're right btw w.r.t. the points for passengers though.

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      • Jesse

        #93
        Re: Now that only the driver counts when capping a flag...v1.03 "Super" Patch Oct 3rd

        Originally posted by Animalmother
        better, because people will pull their lazy asses out of the bh or the humvee and actually secure the area.
        Including the gunner of the Humvee that's helping protect with the gun that's mounted on top? Sorry, but the transport vehicles are the only things I see this even REMOTELY having a use for, and that's stretching it. This just makes everyone more vulnerable so the people who can't take out tanks will have a chance since they're running around with some other kit, which depriciates the value of engineers and mines and anti-tank and their rockets. (if engineers get any less useful they'll have to give people a 10 point bonus for switching to it)

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        • TAW_Crow

          #94
          Re: Now that only the driver counts when capping a flag...v1.03 "Super" Patch Oct 3rd

          This was an EXCELLENT addition!!! Way to go Dice!!

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          • Valistan

            #95
            Re: Now that only the driver counts when capping a flag...v1.03 "Super" Patch Oct 3rd

            This wont affect me at all. I hardly ever take rides in helis.

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            • imported_matgn03

              #96
              Re: Now that only the driver counts when capping a flag...v1.03 "Super" Patch Oct 3rd

              I agree with it except for if ur in a an attack helo, how retarded is it to have to leave to get teh points?

              also i think about all the time how nasty it would be to be able to VOIP with ppl in ur vehicle as well ar squad (already mentioned, but a great idea nonetheless)

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              • Jesse

                #97
                Re: Now that only the driver counts when capping a flag...v1.03 "Super" Patch Oct 3rd

                Originally posted by Valistan
                This wont affect me at all. I hardly ever take rides in helis.
                Do you take rides in ground vehicles?

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                • BigBadBob

                  #98
                  Re: Now that only the driver counts when capping a flag...v1.03 "Super" Patch Oct 3rd

                  Originally posted by Harmor
                  APC has more than 2 slots. Actually if memory serves me it has 4 passenger seats for a total of 5 in the crew.

                  An APC or tank only takes 2 well placed AT rockets to destroy so I don't like being in them. Most people when they are killed will respawn as AT so its wise to spead out so you don't all die.

                  The gunner on a tank is already an exposed target and will often get killed. I know when playing sniper that the gunner on a tank is an easy kill.
                  i meant 6.

                  Anyway, i thought of another scenario. You in a tank are working together, you get to the flag first (points would count to you) and he sees that. There are 3 things he's going to do:
                  A. is he going to get out of his tank to get points?
                  B. is he going to stay in the area and kill anyone trying to kill you?
                  C. Screw you and go to the next flag, so he can get the points?

                  Which one do you think it will be?

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                  • DoubleVee

                    #99
                    Re: Now that only the driver counts when capping a flag...v1.03 "Super" Patch Oct 3rd

                    that's actually that's really good....cuz if only the driver counts....then the flag cap is gonna be really slow...so the passangers will HAVE to jump out

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                    • imported_ColonelPanic

                      #100
                      Re: Now that only the driver counts when capping a flag...v1.03 "Super" Patch Oct 3rd

                      Originally posted by Angerf1st_NL
                      Awesome work on the chopper part though i find it more than retarded that the gunner in a tank or the gunner in a jeep wont get points... I mean whe waited long enough for a fix and now they pretty much screwed the whole gameplay up.

                      Gotta love EA...

                      Indeed, that would be really stupid. A driver and 1 gunner on any vehicle (including blackhawk) would be Much better than if just the driver can cap a flag in any vehicle. Hopefully the "get killed if brushed by vehicle" nuisance will be fixed too, otherwise I bet there's gonna be a lot of teamkilling, punishing and bitching as people dive out of vehicles and die. :)

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                      • imported_Got Your Back

                        #101
                        Re: Now that only the driver counts when capping a flag...v1.03 "Super" Patch Oct 3rd

                        The only thing I remember them saying in the interview was that a BH only counts as 1 (speed wise) when capping a flag. Of Course the PILOT has to stay in there. I think what it means is that ANY "secured" vehicle will count as 1 (speed wise) in capping. I don't think it will matter if its a driver, gunner or a passenger. The only reason I think they used the term PILOT is because LOL the "driver of a BH must stay in it. As long as 1 person is in a vehicle (secured), then it will count towards the capping of the flag! That sounds more logical. Cause like some have said. The gunners of jeeps SHOULD stay in to cover, while the driver & passengers disembark.

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                        • imported_Got Your Back

                          #102
                          Re: Now that only the driver counts when capping a flag...v1.03 "Super" Patch Oct 3rd

                          Originally posted by ColonelPanic
                          Hopefully the "get killed if brushed by vehicle" nuisance will be fixed too, otherwise I bet there's gonna be a lot of teamkilling, punishing and bitching as people dive out of vehicles and die. :)
                          How true.... Why didn't they add BRAKES to the vehicles ? DUH !!! LMAO

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                          • Harmor

                            #103
                            Re: Now that only the driver counts when capping a flag...v1.03 "Super" Patch Oct 3rd

                            Originally posted by Got Your Back
                            How true.... Why didn't they add BRAKES to the vehicles ? DUH !!! LMAO
                            I wish they had handbreaks on jeeps and buggies...so many times I wish I could hit the handbreak and make a 180 especially on those steep turn-back roads down hills.

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                            • spyderfenix2006

                              #104
                              Re: Now that only the driver counts when capping a flag...v1.03 "Super" Patch Oct 3rd

                              EA games made of good things to fix the patch and they also made some things worse

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                              • Harmor

                                #105
                                Re: Now that only the driver counts when capping a flag...v1.03 "Super" Patch Oct 3rd

                                Originally posted by spyderfenix2006
                                EA games made of good things to fix the patch and they also made some things worse
                                What did they do worse? Is this change with only the driver counting when capping a flag worse for your gameplay?

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