Spawn raping a clear definition

[imported_bigpappa]

Re: Spawn raping a clear definition

all of the above

[Krring]

Re: Spawn raping a clear definition

Greetings

When I am unleashed with a jet on a base I dont use bombs the gun does the talking.

They have plenty of men and equipment to fight back with and if they cant handle one jet firing its gun alone then its time to pack the game in and go play marbles or tiddly winks.

I have been on the recieving end of same tactic and it dosent last long and I loose a tiny fraction of the lives I've taken in the same situation.

There's a simple solution to end the whining and bitching and crap.............

Go learn how to play the game and stfu.

Do you know how you sound? I'll tell you...

"I hate when people baserape, it's unfair! If someone baserapes, it should be done as I say, because with that tactic I get as much points as possible! If you baserape, you suck! If I can't baserape as I wan't, you suck then too! Quit whining and let me do what I wan't!"

I thought that while playing 1942 or Vietnam I would see the most ridiculous and unsportsman like behaviour, but that was naive of me. Unfortunately most of the BF 2 players seem to be inheriting their code of honor from previous BF-games. Other possibility is, that they are these newcomer teenagers, who don't actually have any idea about gaming ethics or they just don't care about it as points are the most important thing, not the game experience or using the possibilities this game has.

And of course, when we are talking in internet, we can't just forget that fact, that quite considerable part of gamers are these generation X über-gamers who don't rely on social real life contacts, but get their respect from forums, IRC or via some other kind of messaging software. The more respected you are in your own internet-circle, the bigger virtual penis you can swing while being online.

And Dice, only I'm not necessarily pointing at you with those last two chapters(chapters or columns or sumthing).

Everyone can pick their favorite "kit" out of those choises or make their own, I'm no one to judge anyone. I just would see at least once that kind of server, where people would work as a team and use those resources this game has. Forget grinding your teet, going only for points, kcking wall, smashing your table with your fist or cursing. Just play a good game and let others enjoy it too.

[Sneaky Assassin]

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Some fool in a plane last night was doing it to me, everytime I spawned bam raped by a plane machine gun. It wasn't fun and in the end I left the server after about 3-4 deaths

[=PxR=TitanSound]

Re: Spawn raping a clear definition

well since there are no other bases to attack...what else are they gonna do?

Defend perhaps?

Oh sorry...I forgot...Defend is a dirty word in this game :p

[Flatline_hun]

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Reply to #1:
a) People spawn in random locations thoughout the base
b) Spawn times are random
b) No vehicles are UBER, ie: you can spawn as an anti-tank in a random location and EASILY kill a tank in 1 or 2 lives.
c) There are commander assets in the main bases that are totally legit, 1 spec ops guy isn't enough to secure them throughout the game
d) Commander has the ability organize and spot "campers" to aid in their defeat
e) 90% of the time camping a main base in BF2 causes the "camping" team to lose as people WILL escape and cap other bases
f) Many of the critical assets of a team like helicopters and tank are held at the main bases, and often undefended. Taking out, or stealing these assets is part of a global success strategy
g) People who whine about base camping just do it because they THINK it is socially acceptable, but it really makes them look like a nOOb IMO.

a., No, there are fixed spawn locations around each flag.
b,. No, It's 15 seconds
b,. Yes there are UBER vehicles: called jets. If your jet is stolen you can't kill the other side's jet AT ALL. Okay, I wish you the situation of getting baseraped in Gulf of Oman (mec side) with all your planes + attach chopper stolen, on a server with no autobalance: you realize that 16 vs 16 will quickly become 6 vs 26, and YOU CAN'T EVEN GET INTO A VEHICLE, since there are 2 attack choppers, 4 planes bombing the s*t out of you........
d, commander can't have any abilities while dead, can he?
e, No it doesn't it will cause everyone in the raped team to either switch or disconnect.
g, I really wish you experience some REAL baseraping: not the "one tank goes to the uncappable base"-type. Try the real thing: you don't have and can't have vehicles, and you die 2 seconds after spawning 10-20 times in a row. I wanna see the smile on your face as you say: "it's totally acceptable, and utterly fun! Let's do it some more!"

[WhitecapUK]

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I sometimes get accused of base raping as a sniper but as I see it what I do is exactly the same as the jets bombing the base. I try to stay away from the fixed base and choose one of the other bases to defend/attack, but if my fixed base is being bombed into oblivion every 2 minutes I see it as my task to take out the pilots wherever possible, thereby giving my team chance to deploy. A snipers task is to take out high value assets, (pilots) and disrupt the enemy rear area LOL.

[stormwolf]

Re: Spawn raping a clear definition

And if any clan/players dont like it when I hammer the life out of them in a jet repeatedly then tuff **** its a war game,Destroying enemy assets from the air is a legit strategy.

Couldn't you just spare us the details an say: "I think spwan raping is anything I don't like and every thing I like doing to other is not".

Spwan raping with a jet on an uncapturable base whlie there are still more bases to the enemy is the lamest thing in the game (I actually am not that fund of doing that when there are no bases left too, but if the other team lost it's bases then at some point I'll do a few rounds. And if the enemy jets spwaned raped us - you can bet I'll have my revange).
Try destorying me while I'm in air. We all can step on ants, I'm not sure how many of us can fight lions

[Kattspya]

Re: Spawn raping a clear definition

Greetings

There seems to be some confusion over what technically spawn raping means.

In my book this is spawn raping:

1.A squad or complete team having captured all capturable flags decend upon the last uncapturable flag and procede to sit in tanks etc INSIDE the base and kill everything thing that spawns.

2.A squad sits INSIDE the uncapturable enemy base in tanks/apc's and kills everything that spawns even tho there are other enemy bases.

3.Any other player other than spec ops sets foot INSIDE an uncapturable base.

4.Any vehical lands/drives INSIDE an uncapturable base.

Now there will be exceptions such as:

1.If a spec ops player is INSIDE an uncapturable base to steal equipment or destroy equipment they must leave asap having done so.

2.If a player is shot down and parashoots onto an uncapturable base they must leave asap.

Now these are the rules I follow myself , and to me seem perfectly fair.

And if any clan/players dont like it when I hammer the life out of them in a jet repeatedly then tuff **** its a war game,Destroying enemy assets from the air is a legit strategy.

Quite right :)

I would like to add that you can't shoot into uncappables unless someone shot at you first. If you're in a helo or such small arms fire does not count.

About the last point though are you speaking about bombing the uncap?

[xpnl]

Re: Spawn raping a clear definition

I play this game for some time now
I have been hardly "raped" in any base

So the rule No Basecamp is useless imo.

[Brutus]

Re: Spawn raping a clear definition

Greetings

When I am unleashed with a jet on a base I dont use bombs the gun does the talking.

They have plenty of men and equipment to fight back with and if they cant handle one jet firing its gun alone then its time to pack the game in and go play marbles or tiddly winks.

I have been on the recieving end of same tactic and it dosent last long and I loose a tiny fraction of the lives I've taken in the same situation.

There's a simple solution to end the whining and bitching and crap.............

Go learn how to play the game and stfu.

I would rather have a tank in the spawn than a Jet flying overhead. You can take out a tank fairly easy, you can't say the same for a jet.

I understand why you posted this though. You had somebody in your spawn destroying the plane you were whoring and couldn't do crap without it so you decided to come here and whine about it.

[Dead and Buried]

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If u are being camped/raped...... deal with it! If uve lost all ure flags and u only have ure uncapable one and start complaining that ure getting camped u shouldnt av lost the flags in the first place. Deal with it, its just another situation that u need to be prepared for in bf2.

[=HzC=Heinz]

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spawn raping in the last "un-capturable" base is like running up a score in football, basketball, or any other competative game. it's just poor sportsmanship period.

as in, you're ahead 44-0, but you still have to get a touchdown in the last 30 seconds of the game just to be an *******.

[Solar71]

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Dont forget ...

This game and forum are both full of idiots that think its ok to spawn / base camp...

Probably the same people that think bunny hoping is ok... Dolphine diving is ok , stat padding is ok ....

Bunch of idiots...

Also dont forget the guy that comes into a base, and goes prone, just about 1 foot outside the flag capture boundary... So he can kill all the spawners but NOT cap the flag...

So stupid... but when you play a game with sooo many teenagers, thats what you get....

So what i did was, i just picked up Silent Hunter 3...
When the cheese starts flying TOO HARD... i just leave the server... and play SH3 for a while... Great game, is you have lots of patients...

Take it easy

[Real_2St0n3d]

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Saying: 'HEY! THAT T-90 IS OURS! I demand you hand it over right now, u *insert namecalling* won't help anyone.. except the guy at the wheels offcourse.

I've been caught up in some intense basecamping and no, it is not fun, but I won't complain .. it is a war and if we've allowed it to come to that with teams being balanced (in numbers, if nothing else) we deserve everything coming to us..

Sometimes I've known it to really fuel up the people so they will work together as a team for a change. and anything that makes teamplay more the norm can't be all bad :p

having only a spec op allowed near CO assets is just stupid.. several times I've teamed up with a spec op as support or medic (if there's a support allready tagged along)

It's a game where the people using the best team tactics and utilize vehicles best win. Simple as that. and keeping the enemy pinned down is imho a valid, effective strategy, which can be worked around if people work together.

that's just my 2 eurocents anyway

[Paas]

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Defend perhaps?

Oh sorry...I forgot...Defend is a dirty word in this game :p

No, it's not. People don't do it because it doesn't net a decent amount of points in the game.

Now, on Un-Ranked servers, you tend to see a squad devoted to defense of certain flags. Usually a team of Support, Engineer, and AT.

Also, spawn-raping is a valid tactic across the board, unless the server admins say otherwise (I surely don't, the only thing I don't allow on our server is Dolphin Diving and Bunny Hopin'. If you get into an position to make life for spawning enemies complete ****, then, by all means use that to your teams advantage...). The objective in this game is to keep the other team from taking flags... best way to do this is to kill them and keep them dead.

Last thing you wanna' do when you have the upper hand is allow the OpFor to get their footing. It's the OpFor's JOB to find their way outa' the situation they have gotten themselves into.

There is not logic behind not "Spawn-Raping" now that I think about it.. I mean, why would you wanna' make the combat arena fair for the enemy. When you just worked a good 3-5 minutes to make it unfair; counterproductive some?

{WP}Paas