so Chopper Capping ends w/next patch?

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  • Marksmen

    #46
    Re: so Chopper Capping ends w/next patch?

    I dont think its that much of a problem but it is really anouying to go a cap a flag that was covered with guys then move on to the next one only to find out that the one u took over just got re-captured by a BH.

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    • Talus
      Member
      • Oct 2006
      • 6854

      #47
      Re: so Chopper Capping ends w/next patch?

      This argument is NEVER going to end. Let's just see what happens with the patch and THEN talk about it

      How many times do we have to have a BH thread?

      Obviously it's a problem since it gets discussed sooooooooo many times. And obviously the developers know and are changing it. Let's just wait.

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      • DrJambo
        Member
        • Oct 2006
        • 349

        #48
        Re: so Chopper Capping ends w/next patch?

        Sometimes I don't think it's so much a problem of the Blackhawk per sé, but actually more one of map design. The main problem I see is the Blackhawk on Mashtuur City. Blackhawks don't cause nearly as much angst on the other maps where there are plenty of things to take them down with. On Mashtuur one could really do with some effective AA - whether this be static AA sites or mobile AA. All we have are basic "light" vehicles and these, or more likely the driver/gunner, can be taken out with the miniguns themselves. ATs are only useful if the BH is stationary and if it's a full BH, then a flag can be capped before the ATs can take it down.

        It might also be better to even up the transport choppers just a little. The guns on the flying cows are not a patch on the Blackhawk's miniguns.

        With regards to flap capping in a helo, instead of removing the ability for helos to cap flags entirely, one could limit this ability to the "transported" soldiers, i.e. the pilot and gunners don't count as flag capping personel. This would result in longer times to cap flags and if no "transported" soldiers were present, the gunners would have to switch seats in order to cap the flag, thereby relinquishing their miniguns.

        Just a few thoughts, cheers

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        • antseezee

          #49
          Re: so Chopper Capping ends w/next patch?

          The change will either remove helicopters from capping flags, or allow it so that an air vehicle landed (on the ground) will begin to capture the flag. One of the sections must tough solid ground aka armor vehicles, or infantry troops.

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          • jonnysanchez

            #50
            Re: so Chopper Capping ends w/next patch?

            Originally posted by DrJambo
            On Mashtuur one could really do with some effective AA - whether this be static AA sites or mobile AA. All we have are basic "light" vehicles and these, or more likely the driver/gunner, can be taken out with the miniguns themselves. ATs are only useful if the BH is stationary and if it's a full BH, then a flag can be capped before the ATs can take it down.
            my trick is, above the spawn where the mec t90 tank spawns, theres a bridge. if you can get up there with the tank you can wait for the blackhawk to come along and because the bridge is way up high, the blackhawk can fly as high as he wants but you will still be able to hit him with the tank

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            • Scrobes

              #51
              Re: so Chopper Capping ends w/next patch?

              Another idea to consider is maybe making it so that when a flag is capped, there's a period of time in which it cannot be capped again. Like, 30 seconds maybe? In that time it can't go white again or something. I don't know. Just throwing out a random number. That way, you cap a flag and it's *yours* for at least that time. Maybe that would promote defending it, or at least some slightly prolonged engagements. This is mainly in response to the "Player A caps flag #1, Player A moves to flag #2, BlackHawk caps flag #1, even before Player A has got very far."

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              • Ruhanga

                #52
                Re: so Chopper Capping ends w/next patch?

                Make it so that you have to kill everything nearby the flag area to take it, why? cause it annoying to have BH capture your main base while there are still 15 guys runnig around.

                Same goes to tank and others.

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                • imported_dumbo

                  #53
                  Re: so Chopper Capping ends w/next patch?

                  Another idea to consider is maybe making it so that when a flag is capped, there's a period of time in which it cannot be capped again.... Maybe that would promote defending it, or at least some slightly prolonged engagements.
                  AFAICT that would merely promote attacking - taking a flag grants a 'free' defence for 30 seconds, freeing up more players to attack the remaining flags...

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                  • Odinpalen

                    #54
                    Re: so Chopper Capping ends w/next patch?

                    What I loved about DC was that a tank could take out a helo in one shot so you had to be a good pilot if you went near an enemy base. Also the stingers made you think twice about going near a flag. You would follow your armor convoy to the flag and let them distract the enemy and then shower em in hellfires and rockets. The blackhawk can take two direct tank shells without an engineer inside. That is the same armor as the tank???????? Now put 4 engineers in side repairing?????

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                    • SpeedyGonzales

                      #55
                      Re: so Chopper Capping ends w/next patch?

                      Originally posted by Talus
                      This argument is NEVER going to end. Let's just see what happens with the patch and THEN talk about it

                      How many times do we have to have a BH thread?

                      Obviously it's a problem since it gets discussed sooooooooo many times. And obviously the developers know and are changing it. Let's just wait.
                      whoa, theres a great idea.... NOT...

                      I bet you rode the short buses to school, didnt you..

                      wait till they DONT fix it, then talk about it, OMFG... is that what you
                      said ? LMAO.

                      I think that more than likely EA wont correct this exploit.. it ruins
                      nearly every game I play in, except Karkand, of course.. Its silly...

                      Im still waiting for someone to tell me one time a chopper actually
                      took ground, anywhere, anyhow..anytime... just one time..

                      EA are idiots.. the only things that will be corrected in this next
                      "PATCH" are things related to their precious stat system, which
                      I care nothing about, and perhaps a updated server browser,
                      which should have been in the original release anyhow.. what
                      a bunch of morons these people are..

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                      • DLWebmaestro96

                        #56
                        Re: so Chopper Capping ends w/next patch?

                        Originally posted by SpeedyGonzales
                        EA are idiots.. the only things that will be corrected in this next
                        "PATCH" are things related to their precious stat system, which
                        I care nothing about, and perhaps a updated server browser,
                        which should have been in the original release anyhow.. what
                        a bunch of morons these people are..
                        How is EA responsible for the game's coding?

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                        • CS-Evolution

                          #57
                          Re: so Chopper Capping ends w/next patch?

                          Originally posted by DLWebmaestro96
                          How is EA responsible for the game's coding?
                          People are just looking to bitch about something, they have to focus it somewhere. They don't care if it's EA or Ghandi.

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                          • sturmvogel

                            #58
                            Re: so Chopper Capping ends w/next patch?

                            I hope the choppers have to get much closer to the flag in order to cap it, or land right next to it. That way, when I put C4 on the flagpole I'll get 18 points everytime I destroy a fully loaded BH. :)

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                            • DLWebmaestro96

                              #59
                              Re: so Chopper Capping ends w/next patch?

                              Originally posted by CS-Evolution
                              People are just looking to bitch about something, they have to focus it somewhere. They don't care if it's EA or Ghandi.
                              Ahhh... LOL... okay!

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                              • Brutus

                                #60
                                Re: so Chopper Capping ends w/next patch?

                                Originally posted by SpeedyGonzales
                                Im still waiting for someone to tell me one time a chopper actually took ground, anywhere, anyhow..anytime... just one time..
                                During the first Gulf war a helicopter was surveiling an island and the Iraqi military on that island surrendered as soon as they saw the helo.

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