Blackhawk vs Jets: Ramming Ok?

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  • KBH33

    #106
    Hmmmmmmmm I too think its their fault for running into it

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    • Grey Fox

      #107
      Originally posted by NismO_UK
      If Blackwhore's are pi55ing you off, spawn as spec. ops, run up to the flag, get your C4 out and then jump and stick 2 C4's as high up the flagpole as you can. Go hide so you can see the flag, wait for the BH to hover over the flag to cap it and BOOM!! 6 kills if fully loaded and I don't care how may engineers they have. (Works great for getting your Explosive ordinance badge!)
      So you spend wasting time just waiting for the bh, instead of fighting with your mates, thats not a good solution IMO.

      Ok, lets see...

      O look, i see a plain. Aim for it ... Wait 2 seconds to lock. Yes, we have a lock. At this point, the plain has already travelt half the map. Now, lets assume you have somebody like me. Somebody how has expierience in plains & heli's ( and not the "lets hit a wall type" ). So i know that most people dump there flare's very soon. Is it a noob thing to do. I dont think so.

      Why? Becouse by the time the AA site has reaquired a lock, you lost: 1 second becouse of all the flare's redirecting your lock. Then you lose another 2 seconds for the lock. O wait, you have if your lucky, maybe 1 second to fire, most times the plain is already out of range, and you lost your lock.

      Now, lets assume you do fire in time. Becouse of the rather large range, the rocket will:

      a) miss
      b) hit on of your own plains that is by now behind the target plain.

      Even a noob pilot can shake rockets faster then you can say "please hit".

      The only moment you can get a clean heat or tail shot, is when he's almost out of range ( tail ), or when he's getting ready to bomb your ass.

      Like i said before, in all my hours of flying heli's, the least dangerous thing is a AA site. Plains are the big killers with there guns, not there rockets. Then it's the suicide types ( plains, heli's ). Then you have others ( guns of APC, Tank shell's, Heavy machine guns ). And last, are AA site's. You are better off getting in a APC, or a tank, then trying to kill with a AA site. The only times those AA's kill me, is like i said before, when i'm hovering or flying in a direct line to or away from them.

      Hell, all it takes for a heli to shake incoming rockets when he's in a direct line with a AA site, is to dive left & right a few times. 75% of the time, the rockets both miss you. 20% one of them hits. In that case, who care's, sinds that AA gunner is as good as dead. And only a 5% chance of a kill against somebody who lightly does evasive actions. Even a slow BH can evade direct aimed rockets.

      Put skilled Infantrie on the ground vs skilled Air attackers. And the air attackers will always be victourius. This has always been a problem with Battlefield, going back to BF42. And no offence, but those AA batteries make you PRIME target practice for any pilot. Everybody know where the AA's are, so it's not very hard to spot a missing ( filled ) one on your map, and kill it off.

      What's missing for infantrie in my eye's, is a Anti Air class. I mean come on ... shoulder mounted Stinger exist from the 70's but people in BF2 need to rely on fixed position AA site's or Anti Tank rockets to take out flying objects ... arf... Lets start by equiping people with Shoulder Mounted Stingers, and the BH cap raping will slow down.
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      I completly agree with this, but would like to ad, that IMO the planes should be very easy to hit when they are coming at you. Now that may not be realistic, but the things is. It does take a lot of skill and pateince to take down a pliot, and even then it's not a sure thing. But IMO it should be the same for the pilot, cause an AA has a hard time getting him down, but he does not have a hard time taking the AA out, and they take it our by coming straight at you and bombing, so it should be made harder, by making missles hit the planes easier when they are coming straight at you.

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      • imported_xRandoMx

        #108
        As long as the blackhawk can have a bunch of people repairing it in midflight, any tactic whatsoever is valid for taking it down. Cumulative damage, which works on just about anything else in the game doesn't work here, the things are fully repaired in the time you're reloading/cooling off your weapon

        Ram it and ram it and ram it again.

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        • ZappBrann1gan

          #109
          The split-second after those bombs are released are the best time to fire. Unfortunately.

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          • Eddie Haskell

            #110
            Sissies whining about "cheap ramming?" I don't see any penalties pop up when it's done to me, or when I do it myself. If there's a threat, remove it any way you see fit. Why not scream about mid-flight repairs as well?

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            • iWu

              #111
              I ram just to hear people whine

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              • Riggz

                #112
                Originally posted by iWu
                I ram just to hear people whine
                lol..I was doing that today. They wined..and I told them to consider walking.

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                • penguino

                  #113
                  RAM the BH and give the pilot 5tk's!! :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
                  I bet after that none will want to fly that baby!

                  -this is my revenge against all those BH whores! :evil: :evil: :evil:

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                  • Private Sut

                    #114
                    A lot of times, I'll accidentally ram a BH and then the pilot won't stop whinning. That's when I start ramming them in hopes that they'll say something stupid and get themselves banned. :laugh:

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                    • -=Exc@libur=-

                      #115
                      attempt to fire missiles directly from the back or direct front of the blackhawk; normally when you attack from the side is when u miss with missiles the most (particularly when flares are released). keep locked from a distance until flares are released then move above the flares a bit with the target circle and unload all the missiles on the bh. unload your gun in the sucker just before and after missiles are released.

                      Ex

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                      • Droopy The Dog

                        #116
                        Originally posted by Variable
                        I think its a lame tactic. Right up there with bhopping, and run-over kills.
                        Running people over is lame now, damn I'm outa touch, no wonder I got kick voted twenty times by some random guy after running him down. Next time I'll honk my horn and wait for him to move, maybe even kill me, hell I'll give him the keys to the jeep so there's no hard feelings.

                        Strange how the votes always ended though 2 of 20, guess no-one noticed my uber lameness.

                        Utter piss take over with, a severe does of get over it is needed if you somehow feel offended by being rammed. As long as the blackhawk isn't the only aircraft you have up, there's more to be gained from a successfull gun kill, of course if that fails.... Pilots choice, he's attacking you're defending, he decides what weapon. If he chooses his own thick skull, well, get a jet and shoot him down before he nears your blackhawk (cos he'll need a pretty straightline run to ram it).

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