A message to all you Camp Gibraltar fans!

[WolfAlmighty]

If you can't get a second shot off with the Clark, then learn how to move around a little. The shotguns are the only guns in the entire game whose accuracy and spread is completely unaffected by movement - try using unpredictable dives, strafing, jumps, etc. to confuse Voss users in close quarters and you'll have a great deal of success in getting 2 or more shots off.

It works wonders for me with the Herzog.

Oh I do, believe me I do. Notice I mentioned 'decent' Vossers.

And plus the Herzog has a faster fire rate, whereas with the (1.25) Clark you have to wait what seems like an eternity between shots, so if you're facing someone with good aiming and fast reflexes you may not get a chance to get off that second shot. You can always tell newbie Vossers from skilled Vossers. With newbie Vossers you can hear bullets whizzing all around you and they can take 30 bullets to kill you, whereas with skilled Vossers the only thing you hear is yourself screaming for a medic. :p

~Wolfgang

[Cann0n-Fodder]

Some VOSS'ers can aim well and direct their spray upward as you jump. Its really a mixed bag coming up against VOSS'ers. But I can confirm the random hits of the clark. I've had the Clark crosshair right on the soldier and shot him, all pellets connecting, and he'd live. Then I think this has to do with server-your computer issues.

[Lt.ConVix]

1) Stop crying about the Voss. Learn to kill a Voss user.
2) "ZOMG Voss killed me". So? If you are as 1337 as you claim, then you should get the jump on them with your "superior" Clark or Baur, or whatever self-righteous weapon you use.
3) Voss is a better weapon in that map, for close quarters, than the Baur.It is also better agains bunny-hoppers than the Shotguns.
4) I am killed by Grenades waaay more often than the Voss.
5) Pick up a Voss and hold the LMB down at your target at 20m. I GURANTEE you you will die. Spraying with the Voss is exactly what you DON'T want to do.

all true yes

other people have there opinions tho

and yes i do get killed more by nades rather than voss's but i also throw them :salute:

[ExTeenageRebel]

I prefer city maps myself and I find myself using the Voss quite often and with small bursts it’s top notch. I started out Assault/Medic and then unlocked my Recon tree and found the Lambert can be annoying also, but works well up to 20m or so. I Just recently got to try my Clark for my Support guy and have had random success with it. I’ve been playing FPS for quite some time and always keep my aim at head level, but with the shotty it’s just so unpredictable. I can unload a full clip and never seem to hit the guy even though I’m aiming right at the chest/head. I haven’t completely given up on the Clark cause I’ve really taken a liking to running as support with my infantry detector.

Lately, I’ve been switching between all three throughout a round depending on where I’m spawning and what the situation is. I’m finding all three to be fun and I haven’t even gotten to my sentry gun yet!

[Cann0n-Fodder]

I prefer city maps myself and I find myself using the Voss quite often and with small bursts it’s top notch. I started out Assault/Medic and then unlocked my Recon tree and found the Lambert can be annoying also, but works well up to 20m or so. I Just recently got to try my Clark for my Support guy and have had random success with it. I’ve been playing FPS for quite some time and always keep my aim at head level, but with the shotty it’s just so unpredictable. I can unload a full clip and never seem to hit the guy even though I’m aiming right at the chest/head. I haven’t completely given up on the Clark cause I’ve really taken a liking to running as support with my infantry detector.

Lately, I’ve been switching between all three throughout a round depending on where I’m spawning and what the situation is. I’m finding all three to be fun and I haven’t even gotten to my sentry gun yet!

Oh you'll love that sentry gun! =) Hide that sucker near a spawn point or in a bush and rack up those auto kills! :)

[n00bs4brkfst]

Well in his defense, he's talking about using the Clark, which is notorious for being unpredictable in its pellet spread, so even if you aim perfectly at their head/neck/torso, you won't always get the kill and chances are if you're being fired upon by a decent Vosser, you won't get a second shot. I think the firing rate increase will relegate that a bit, however.

~Wolfgang

Yeah. It's not exactly easy going w/ the clark vs. voss. But I'm talkin about all the other peeps who whine about the voss. Voss is no more powerful than any AR. It's just VERY, VERY n00b friendly.

[Conv1ct]

Honestly, even though everyone picks the Voss in Camp G, I say Support with LMG/HMG destroy the entire Battlefield. Camp G is known for having stalemates. This is exactly like WWI. The machine gun was invented no one got through no man's land. All you gotta do is go to a choke point, stay prone, spam grenade and spawn points, and mow anyone down that is running toward your the flag.

It is simple, since I got my golden support badge I don't bother playing with it anymore but 7/10 I ended up first in Camp G. The real Support whores like EclipsedTerror are amazing support players that end up 1st pretty much every time in Camp G.

[KHAN]

The Clark on C.G is only good for killing at the beginning of the map, there is too much distance to use the shotty on most of the map, Voss on the other hand requires few bullets to kill and can outshoot a mediocre sniper

[Cann0n-Fodder]

Ah the perched LMG'er tactic. Watch out - those Baurs can get ya!

[Conv1ct]

Ah the perched LMG'er tactic. Watch out - those Baurs can get ya!

If you are already stationary prone only a real Baur professional would be able to take you down. PK rockets are the ones that annoy the Support players but if the Assault player is far away, the PK rockets are avoidable by simply running away. If the Assault player is close enough, spam him with grenades... =P

[itsatticus]

Here's an idea. How about whenever you feel like whining about a gun, instead of posting on a forum go kill a user of said gun with a pistol it will make you feel better. And if that dosen't work a good old fashioned teabag will probably do the trick.

[Cann0n-Fodder]

Here's an idea. How about whenever you feel like whining about a gun, instead of posting on a forum go kill a user of said gun with a pistol it will make you feel better. And if that dosen't work a good old fashioned teabag will probably do the trick.

Think i'll go try this when I get home tonight.

Thank you :)

[Digital-Boy]

In response to the original post, calling a shotgunner a noob or otherwise implying that shotguns take less skill to use than a Voss is completely laughable.

[Bladeeagle]

In response to the original post, calling a shotgunner a noob or otherwise implying that shotguns take less skill to use than a Voss is completely laughable.

A shotgun is a hit and miss gun, you only got 7 shots and each shot take 1.2 or more seconds to go to the next shot whereas the voss has 40 bullets, almost no recoil, and is devastating in cqc.

[Mazee]

The Clark on C.G is only good for killing at the beginning of the map, there is too much distance to use the shotty on most of the map, Voss on the other hand requires few bullets to kill and can outshoot a mediocre sniper

If it was long range then i can easily headshotthe vosser no matter what, close range rdx the vosser near me:p