Let Everyone Know; I am a "Hack"

[GeneralPatton]

Re: Let Everyone Know; I am a "Hack"

In COD4, you could probably make that argument, as the weapons were fairly "random" in their effectiveness when unlocked.

But in COD:WW, there does seem to be a tilt toward more powerful weapons coming later on (ie. Kar98, Flamethrower, FG42, MG42, PPSH). It won't make a bad player great, but it will tilt the advantage toward a player who is already OK-to-good.

Flamethrowers are ghey. Used it, probably will never use it again. lol :thumbsup:

I have thought about it and had become bored with sitting at level 65. As people say, being a high rank, you are expected of being in 1st place every time so I feel it is more rewarding to be in first at a low rank. Makes you look like a noob, and then own up. :yay:



Meh, I'll use Lvl 65 account when I am playing against my clanmates, but might as well earn rank the right way.

Besides, I think the Prestige 5 looks best anyways.

[iQue]

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It's like scripting in CSS or TF2... you can consider it cheap and cheating but it's practically in the game itself for everyone to use and exploit game mechanics...

Its even easier to do it than in CoD4 now? lawd

[RangerXML]

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So let me get this straight, this time around mpdata is not locket to your key and account name, so it can just be shared among friends...classic!

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How is it cheating? Guys in my clan reached Level 65 today playing normally, and they have all the weapons and perks that I have. What is the difference, besides that I didn't put the game time in that they did?

Yes, I skipped the game time, thats why they make points to rank up; so you spend time playing their game, but the way I was playing (Got to level 38 in 1 day) I would already be at Level 65 right now - all the perks, all the weapons.

I would think the highest level you can leave it at is unsportsmanlike or 'taking a short cut'. Again, if it was like Battlefield 2, I wouldn't justify it at all (I only got to 2LT) but I enjoyed BF2 because it took me A LONG time to get my rank and aimed at having the best stats. COD:WW has no global stat tracking, so you play to get weapons. The weapons are all designed to be equally matched; a level 65 shouldn't have a clear advantage over a level 10 or whatever.

So besides taking a short cut, or earning my rank .. I am just wondering how it is considered cheating to copy an mpdata from someone else.

I don't game in random servers, I only game in 2-3 servers that respect me as a gamer, I follow their rules and am a "good citizen" I guess you can say in their servers. I do this because I don't want to get called out, I have another account that I rank up with for actually earning.

Unfortunately however you look at it, slice, examine it, or whatever, the bottom line is that you have modified the files within your game, to give you an instant advantage of full perks, and weapons, in less than 5 minutes. As others have stated, it would take the average gamer a week or 2, to get to that point. But really, so what?

As long as you are playing with other LVL 65 dudes, who cares. If it was NOt meant to be done, or was considered illegal, Treyarch would have locked that system up a little better, to where a person was unable to do that.

For you or your buddies to face consequences for this matter is silly. Yes, you "hacked" your game files, but its far from using an aimbot program, or an esp program. Does it give you an unfair advantage? Yeah, sure does, just the same as some one having some uber PC playing at 200fps, playing against someone with like 20fps. Oh wells, you guys watch too much Total Drama Island or something? My kid watches that show, i hate it, lol.:thumbsup:

[imported_Whiskey]

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COD:WW has no global stat tracking, so you play to get weapons. The weapons are all designed to be equally matched; a level 65 shouldn't have a clear advantage over a level 10 or whatever.

In COD4, you could probably make that argument, as the weapons were fairly "random" in their effectiveness when unlocked.

But in COD:WW, there does seem to be a tilt toward more powerful weapons coming later on (ie. Kar98, Flamethrower, FG42, MG42, PPSH). It won't make a bad player great, but it will tilt the advantage toward a player who is already OK-to-good.

[GeneralPatton]

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How is it cheating? Guys in my clan reached Level 65 today playing normally, and they have all the weapons and perks that I have. What is the difference, besides that I didn't put the game time in that they did?

Yes, I skipped the game time, thats why they make points to rank up; so you spend time playing their game, but the way I was playing (Got to level 38 in 1 day) I would already be at Level 65 right now - all the perks, all the weapons.

I would think the highest level you can leave it at is unsportsmanlike or 'taking a short cut'. Again, if it was like Battlefield 2, I wouldn't justify it at all (I only got to 2LT) but I enjoyed BF2 because it took me A LONG time to get my rank and aimed at having the best stats. COD:WW has no global stat tracking, so you play to get weapons. The weapons are all designed to be equally matched; a level 65 shouldn't have a clear advantage over a level 10 or whatever.

So besides taking a short cut, or earning my rank .. I am just wondering how it is considered cheating to copy an mpdata from someone else.

I don't game in random servers, I only game in 2-3 servers that respect me as a gamer, I follow their rules and am a "good citizen" I guess you can say in their servers. I do this because I don't want to get called out, I have another account that I rank up with for actually earning.

[Killerus]

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It's cheating plain and simple. Trying to justify it does not change the fact that you cheated.

[imported_Whiskey]

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I would not say it's hacking/cheating as in the "aimbot/wallhack" kind of way. However, it does give an unfair advantage when going on pub servers.

In COD4, it took an average player of about 50 hrs to reach lvl 55. That's not a lot, but it's still significant play-time (3-4 weeks, if people play an avg of 2 hrs a night). You still need skill to shoot other players, but it is unfair (even if just a little bit) to have the higher level perks and weapons against them without putting in that time. As well, I don't know if altering the mpdata also gives the extra create-a-class slots that Prestige does, but if so, that is another slight advantage.

As someone else said, what is the point of ranking at all, if everyone could just alter their mpdata to have all weapons, perks, and create-a-class slots (again, if that is also unlocked).

If people with altered mpdata files only played with those specific profiles on their own clan's servers, but used "regular" profiles on pub servers, I think that would be ok, as the playing field is level. But to use it on regular pub servers isn't quite fair.

The only caveat is the stats-wiping bug. I can understand the frustration with that, although again it doesn't take that long to rank up again, so unless someone was already past Prestige lvl 1, I don't think it's justified using it.

The problem with this is perception...once someone takes step 1 of altering a file, people then question if that person has altered anything else. That person's credibility is then damaged.

Again, one compromise solution I could suggest is to have a "regular" profile that you rank up normally on pub servers, and an "altered" mpdata profile to use when your clan all plays together on a private server.

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I personally will still play with people who altered their profile, but to be 100% honest, there is that little bit of respect that is lost when you know they have done it.

[=98=]

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Having some weapons add-ons gives you an advantage over another player, same as a cheat :)

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Barely hacking.

I think it's harmless enough since you can reach the same rank in just a matter of hours. You might gain an advantage over other players (barely that) but you'll only have that advantage until a week or so when the "legal" players catch up.

I couldn't care less to be honest, I would be against it if there was some sort of stats-tracking service but since there is no such thing... no big deal.

A matter of hours???

Well I could be wrong but if you are leveled up to the max you get all the weapons and perks??? If that is the case then I have a BIG problem with it since it takes days or maybe even weeks (for some of us that work) to get to that point.


Also, the perks give you another advantage along with the weapon add-ons. I would not consider it hacking but I do consider it cheating and yes there is a difference.

[CtrlAltDe1337]

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Its not hacking but it is pretty lame and very unsportsmanlike.

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x2 while it may not be aimbot type cheating, its still not fair. takes the fun away from multiplayer and trying to earn it. it may not be a big deal, but if everyone started of @ lvl 65, the multiplayer would be kinda boring IMO.

[=98=]

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Cheat. Just because it's not an aimbot or 3rd party file running doesn't mean it's fair.

Whoever did that and plays on a PB, public server is a cheat.

[iQue]

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Barely hacking.

I think it's harmless enough since you can reach the same rank in just a matter of hours. You might gain an advantage over other players (barely that) but you'll only have that advantage until a week or so when the "legal" players catch up.

I couldn't care less to be honest, I would be against it if there was some sort of stats-tracking service but since there is no such thing... no big deal.

[(BG)Patton]

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your a hacker. earn those weapons.