The friendly HC or SC poll!

[Chris_Redfield]

Re: The friendly HC or SC poll!

Such as?

The recoil is barely noticable on most weapons. You dont actually have to compensate for it unless your using the Uzi or AK. Its retarded. G3 is powerful as hell and is a one hit kill in HC, (3 hits in SC?) but the recoil is barely there.

Take your pick.

[Spik3d]

Re: The friendly HC or SC poll!

Spik3d- Right... right... Show me your "proof" and maybe I'll believe you.

http://roe.totalgamingnetwork.com/wiki/index.php/Category:Call_of_Duty_4:_Modern_Warfare%2C_Weapons

[waaah_wah]

Re: The friendly HC or SC poll!

Recoil, which has a significant meaning at long range. G3 is included. Whats actually retarded, is that youre making things up to help your argument. Stop, youve been spotted out by 2 people already. Its over.

And while in some cases (like G3) you dont have to compensate for recoil, it still has a direct influence on a persons accuracy on mobile, or ranged targets and THAT was just one of the aspects of using a gun in COD4, that influenced ones efficiency.

Try to stick with the concept, mmkay pumpkin?

Such as?

[Chris_Redfield]

Re: The friendly HC or SC poll!

The recoil is barely noticable on most weapons. You dont actually have to compensate for it unless your using the Uzi or AK. Its retarded. G3 is powerful as hell and is a one hit kill in HC, (3 hits in SC?) but the recoil is barely there.

Recoil, which has a significant meaning at long range. G3 is included. Whats actually retarded, is that youre making things up to help your argument. Stop, youve been spotted out by 2 people already. Its over.

And while in some cases (like G3) you dont have to compensate for recoil, it still has a direct influence on a persons accuracy on mobile, or ranged targets and THAT was just one of the aspects of using a gun in COD4, that influenced ones efficiency.

Try to stick with the concept, mmkay pumpkin?

[waaah_wah]

Re: The friendly HC or SC poll!

Looks like someone has never played COD4.

Try shooting any weapon (MP5 in particular) in a prolongued burst at a distant target. Maybe then the OBVIOUS recoil appears to you.

The recoil is barely noticable on most weapons. You dont actually have to compensate for it unless your using the Uzi or AK. Its retarded. G3 is powerful as hell and is a one hit kill in HC, (3 hits in SC?) but the recoil is barely there.

[ReaperOfsouls]

Re: The friendly HC or SC poll!

another one always spawns in its place a week later, the (futile) debate is inevitable



Well, the same is true the opposite way around. It's going to take the same amount of bullets to take you down as well. So you have to consider if you like dying instantly or like having a chance to take cover, among other things.

Excellent wording, thats what I was trying to get at in my 2 posts and this is why I like SC over HC.

[Keyelite]

Re: The friendly HC or SC poll!

G3 and M16 has recoil but it goes back to original aim point before you click again

But hey, we should complain about battlefield 2's hitboxes. We should be lucky with what we have in terms of hitting someone and actually having it count.

[Kodakk]

Re: The friendly HC or SC poll!

^^ Do you play the same game I do? **@Waah.

AK47 has recoil that takes a bit to master (just as an example).

[Chris_Redfield]

Re: The friendly HC or SC poll!

What recoil? Only weapons in CoD4 that have any recoil that might mess up your aim is sniper rifle and those are bolt action/semi auto anyways

Looks like someone has never played COD4.

Try shooting any weapon (MP5 in particular) in a prolongued burst at a distant target. Maybe then the OBVIOUS recoil appears to you.

[waaah_wah]

Re: The friendly HC or SC poll!

The difference between getting 1-2 hits out of a 10 round burst, compared to a 4-5 hit chance out of a 10 round burst, is astronomical. When we take RCOF and recoil, target movement, netcode, lag and ping into equation, it becomes evident that a SC player has to struggle that much harder, to get the kill, than a HC player.

What recoil? Only weapons in CoD4 that have any recoil that might mess up your aim is sniper rifle and those are bolt action/semi auto anyways

Re: The friendly HC or SC poll!

Irony at its finest. You refuse to listen to well qualified and skilled folks.

I listened to you the last time you posted.. :p


I change my vote to No preference, I like both. >_>

[Chris_Redfield]

Re: The friendly HC or SC poll!

Ok the way I see it there are 3 arguments in the thread that are confusing people

People are not confused, some are just too fanboys and elitists.

Argument 1.

HC takes less actual shots that register to kill someone, fact (excluding snipers)

Yes.

Argument 2.

SC takes only 4 bullets to achieve a kill, (they all have to hit) Fact

No. Its anywhere between 2 and 5. Excluding shotguns and snipers. Any weapon can kill anyone if shot directly, within maximum range, in or in less than 5 shots.

Heres the ending argument. Its statistically a much, much lower chance to hit 5 shots out of 10 shots fired, than to hit 2 shots out of 10 shots fired. And its not 50% and 20%. I cant be arsed to do the maths.

Youll have to go through Bernouills equations on this one, but its just going to confirm what I just said.

The difference between getting 1-2 hits out of a 10 round burst, compared to a 4-5 hit chance out of a 10 round burst, is astronomical. When we take RCOF and recoil, target movement, netcode, lag and ping into equation, it becomes evident that a SC player has to struggle that much harder, to get the kill, than a HC player.

[Keyelite]

Re: The friendly HC or SC poll!

Lets not get this tread locked now ladies

another one always spawns in its place a week later, the (futile) debate is inevitable

If you count all the factors involved in a kill, server lag, player skill, opponent skill, cover density, range, the actual kill figures are more like:

4-5 shots fired at each target in HC to guarantee kill

6-9 shots fired in SC to guarantee kill


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^It was that that I have been trying to get across. Its all well and good people pulling raw data, but you need to refine it and consider other variables before quoting the numbers as fact.

The point is, you rarely get a one hit or two hit kill since the chances of bullets passing through a wall or some other material are high, which reduces damage which means you need more.

Well, the same is true the opposite way around. It's going to take the same amount of bullets to take you down as well. So you have to consider if you like dying instantly or like having a chance to take cover, among other things.

[jackal22]

Re: The friendly HC or SC poll!

Ok the way I see it there are 3 arguments in the thread that are confusing people

Argument 1.

HC takes less actual shots that register to kill someone, fact (excluding snipers)

Argument 2.

SC takes only 4 bullets to achieve a kill, (they all have to hit) Fact

Argument 3.

(the one I was trying to explain)

If you count all the factors involved in a kill, server lag, player skill, opponent skill, cover density, range, the actual kill figures are more like:

4-5 shots fired at each target in HC to guarantee kill

6-9 shots fired in SC to guarantee kill


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^It was that that I have been trying to get across. Its all well and good people pulling raw data, but you need to refine it and consider other variables before quoting the numbers as fact.

The point is, you rarely get a one hit or two hit kill since the chances of bullets passing through a wall or some other material are high, which reduces damage which means you need more.

[iQue]

Re: The friendly HC or SC poll!

Softcore is winning anyway :awes