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  • waaah_wah
    TEAM BLADE!
    • Jun 2007
    • 3656

    #61
    ^^Only if that guy flying a jet is a noob... Im not even goodin jets and i have never had any big problems with killing or avoiding mobile AA. And static AA is a joke in this game.

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    • jadebullet

      #62
      Originally posted by Rugerdog
      Contrary to what most of you think, an AA vehicle can be deadly against jets if used correctly.
      I agree 100%. If i get shot down its normally by a linebacker or something similar. the fact that they can lock onto you without being behind you makes them a major annoyance. It can really inturupt dogfights. Oh and yes the static AA sux

      And about the F-35, my friend and i tested it out and it is faster than the J-10 so i appologize for that, but i can usually still out turn a J-10 in a dogfight. And if you reduce the throttle to the degree where your engine deploys into VTOL mode you reduced it too far. once again i would like to apologize for my statement about the F-35 being slower, i got that from experience of J-10s shooting past me all of the time due to the way that i fly. Oh and i have been playing BF2 for about 2 years now. Unfourtunatly i had to take a long after some catastrophic computer troubles and i decided to restart my character so that i could get 1st sgt this time.

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      • Rugerdog
        Member
        • Jul 2007
        • 468

        #63
        Originally posted by waaah_wah
        ^^Only if that guy flying a jet is a noob... Im not even goodin jets and i have never had any big problems with killing or avoiding mobile AA. And static AA is a joke in this game.
        With both AA you have to pick your battles, you can't just go taking potshots at every jet that goes by. With the mobile AA good cover is invaluable as it can help hide you from the jet's target box as well as from bombs.

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        • imported_Elder
          Member
          • Jun 2006
          • 126

          #64
          Originally posted by DontKnockIt225
          I assume your a vehical whore. lol
          bf2 infantry offers many things other infantry games do not.
          Actually no, while I accel at vehicles, I have also spent a large amount of time (probably more in fact) as infantry playing at very intense and competitive levels. While I didn't earn the same reputation I had as a jet pilot I certainly wasn't a push over and could hold my own at the highest calibur of play.

          Originally posted by DontKnockIt225
          Larger maps, with spread out bases
          Spawn points
          Kick on weapons (cod4 dont have this)
          Squads with squad leader
          ability to destroy UAV
          None of these aspects really add to the game and in fact several of them hinder it. Obviously all games have spawn points, the only difference in BF2 is that you can choose which base to spawn at. The spawn points are actually horribly done in BF2 as there are on average roughly 3-4 spawn points per base. It doesn't take long for a good player to map out these points and camp them with relative ease. The fact that you can predict spawn points in BF2 (unlike COD4) is a huge setback.

          Squad leaders and the ability to spawn on them was one of the worst ideas possible for a first person shooter. Squad-bombing takes absolutely no skill to master and completely nullified much more advanced versions of teamwork. A team could easily perfect the use of squads in a few practices. In the old BF series it took a lot of teamwork and coordination to attack a point guarded by a good opponent.

          Ability to destroy the UAV... not sure how this serves you're arguement of BF2 infantry not being complete crap.

          Kick on weapons? If you're speaking of RECOIL then I'd like to see you find a game that doesn't have it. The difference in BF2 is that it uses a horrible aiming system which renders the guns powerless. BF2 uses an aiming system in which you're bullet will travel somewhere in an imaginery cone of fire placed around you're crosshairs. The size of the cone is dependent on deviation, which can be affected by things like recoil, standing/crouch/prone, and movement.

          The completely underpowered guns, combined with other factors have lead to some of the most ridiculous strategies in a first person shooter. The explosives in this game are far too overpowered and you're given too many and allowed to rearm them too easily. Both these factors comined with terrible game physics (like jumping 6 feet and being able to CHANGE DIRECTION mid air) have lead the annoying strategies such as dolphin diving, C4 tossing, noob tubing, nade spamming, etc. I've used and perfected all of these and I just have to say it's not nearly as fun as using a decent gun. I'd much rather play COD4 or CSS for infantry, at least they put a lot more emphasis on aim.

          Originally posted by DontKnockIt225
          I'd write more but i assume this will prove the point.
          Yes you've completely proven yourself ignorant of all that is battlefield, congradulations.

          Originally posted by DontKnockIt225
          I assume you whore vehicals that are pretty much skilless in comparison to the k/d ratio. lol
          Your assumptions prove wrong again. I've played BF2 infantry against the best in the game and held my own. When it comes to total practice, scrim, and match time I probably have many more whores on the ground than in all vehicles combined.

          Originally posted by DontKnockIt225
          Your opinion is about as valid as an i/o whore's opinon on vehicals.
          If you take into account the fact that I have about as much experience and knowledge as possible in this game, have played at top-tier competition in every aspects of it, and my unbiased nature when judging a video game, I'd say my opinion is much more valid than your own.

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          • jadebullet

            #65
            Wow someone is cocky

            I'm SURE you went up against the BEST BF2 players in the world and held your own. If you did wouldn't you be one of the top ranked players then? Also it is pretty realistic when it comes to guns that there is a cone of where the bullet can hit rather than the bullet going strait to the crosshairs. Especially some of the more spray and pray types of weapons (SAW, RPK, ect.)

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            • XmetallicaXguitarstX
              Member
              • Jul 2006
              • 3014

              #66
              You guys all should shut up right about now.. lol

              If you don't know elder, he was, when he played, probably the best US dogfighter. And I know he did TWL and CAL because I have played cN multiple times.

              He's not some random pub player like 90% of the people here.

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              • DOGGiE52
                Member
                • Dec 2006
                • 2680

                #67
                At least elder does not have the same screwed up attitude as us European dogfighters, which is good.

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                • ALANMAN

                  #68
                  OMG LIKE JETS ARE SOOOOOOOO UNFAIR, they should be taken out of the game! While we're at it, wouldn't it be kool if we could take the tanks outta the game? I find them sooooooooooo unfair cuz they raep me over and over, like OMG. And those pesky jeeps, lets just throw those out too, I hate getting run over by those, I CRY EVERY TIME! And the medics, we can get rid of them too! I mean, who goes around shocking people to get points anyways? Nevermind that it adds something different to the game, what a bunch of point whores! I'm soooo Jealous!

                  Get the point? To the OP: you can cry and complain about every aspect of any game, but in the end most people just don't care. You've really only ever got 2 options, you can either learn to deal with what you don't like about the game, or you can stop playing all together.

                  I'm an experienced J-10 pilot, and I have been taken down by amazing F-35 Pilots many times. Though the F-35B isn't as noob friendly as a J-10, Learn to master it and you will learn to counter the J-10.

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                  • XmetallicaXguitarstX
                    Member
                    • Jul 2006
                    • 3014

                    #69
                    Originally posted by Alanman
                    experienced J-10 pilot
                    lol I didn't know there was such a thing.

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                    • Stev0esque
                      5t3v0 (I miss leetspeech)
                      • Feb 2008
                      • 6786

                      #70
                      Originally posted by Alanman
                      OMG LIKE JETS ARE SOOOOOOOO UNFAIR, they should be taken out of the game! While we're at it, wouldn't it be kool if we could take the tanks outta the game? I find them sooooooooooo unfair cuz they raep me over and over, like OMG. And those pesky jeeps, lets just throw those out too, I hate getting run over by those, I CRY EVERY TIME! And the medics, we can get rid of them too! I mean, who goes around shocking people to get points anyways? Nevermind that it adds something different to the game, what a bunch of point whores! I'm soooo Jealous!
                      how old are you really?

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                      • XmetallicaXguitarstX
                        Member
                        • Jul 2006
                        • 3014

                        #71
                        He didn't put the /sarcasm

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                        • Stev0esque
                          5t3v0 (I miss leetspeech)
                          • Feb 2008
                          • 6786

                          #72
                          Originally posted by XmetallicaXguitarstX
                          He didn't put the /sarcasm
                          wow that was fast

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