strange rules.

[sempf]

it is stad padding as you get awards and stuff more easely. thats why it is illegal

[imported_Field]

it is stad padding as you get awards and stuff more easely. thats why it is illegal

yeah but then everyone gets those same awards. the only badges that are remotely hard to get are like air defense and commander and junk. Other than bronze/ silver/ gold medals...personal awards are worthless. its like "oh, yeeeeah, let meh take a look at all meh medals and pins and ribbons that i gotz."

such is the reason why knife/pistol servers are ok is because the only people that complain about them are people that value what rank someone is in a game. The ranks that you go through in this game from private to Brig are frivalous nonsense, that are merely a gimmick to keep people hooked.

The only things that are really worth much at all are:

1. How good you are at pwning nubs while staying alive and how good you are at keeping teammates optimal.

[Killerus]

well, ok, it IS pretty funny. I've seen all 3. But i just dont like the mentality that people have about knife servers. They think its "illegal" or stupid or something when really its just instead of using any weapon you want you use a knife or defib. I find knife/pistol servers to be more intense than regular servers sometimes especially with pistol where everyone is together in close range shootouts and its a really fun alternative to the regular game.

I wouldnt mind knowing why people think knife servers are stat padding, you go on and fight against other people that have the same weapon as you and you get kills and points like on any other server.

well for one, you get the knife/pistol/medic badges with ease. No tanks, guns, walkers or anything to stop you. Knife, shoot, revive. Knife, shoot, revive. Knife, shoot, revive. Kind of like shooting fish in a barrell.

Secondly people on these servers don't even try to play the game to win the round. Usually a couple of flags are capped and people just run in a big pile knifing and pistol shooting each other. This drags out the rounds to a very long time, artificially inflating the players scores, when compared to a normal round on a normal server.

Thirdly, EA has busted knife players and knife servers since the game came out. If that does not put a light on in your head i seriously don't know what will.

Lastly, have we ever had a Supreme commander who was not a glorified stat padder? How come every time we look into their stats it's nothing but k&p servers? You gonna tell me its cause they all just happen to love knifing? The reason why they only play K&P servers is for the massive amount of points you can get without actually doing anything.

If it's not about the points or the badges then go do it on an unranked server. If it is really about the intense gameplay then there should be a million unranked k&p servers. Guess what? You wont find them because it all comes back to the points/stats/awards that people unfairly gain while playing on them.

[messfeeder]

well for one, you get the knife/pistol/medic badges with ease. No tanks, guns, walkers or anything to stop you. Knife, shoot, revive. Knife, shoot, revive. Knife, shoot, revive. Kind of like shooting fish in a barrell.

Secondly people on these servers don't even try to play the game to win the round. Usually a couple of flags are capped and people just run in a big pile knifing and pistol shooting each other. This drags out the rounds to a very long time, artificially inflating the players scores, when compared to a normal round on a normal server.

Thirdly, EA has busted knife players and knife servers since the game came out. If that does not put a light on in your head i seriously don't know what will.

Lastly, have we ever had a Supreme commander who was not a glorified stat padder? How come every time we look into their stats it's nothing but k&p servers? You gonna tell me its cause they all just happen to love knifing? The reason why they only play K&P servers is for the massive amount of points you can get without actually doing anything.

If it's not about the points or the badges then go do it on an unranked server. If it is really about the intense gameplay then there should be a million unranked k&p servers. Guess what? You wont find them because it all comes back to the points/stats/awards that people unfairly gain while playing on them.

Beautifully said.:nod:

[imported_Field]

well for one, you get the knife and pistol badges with ease. No tanks, guns, walkers or anything to stop you. Kind of like shooting fish in a barrell.

Secondly people on these servers don't even try to play the game to win the round. Usually a couple of flags are capped and people just run in a big pile knifing and pistol shooting each other. This drags out the rounds to a very long time, artificially inflating the players scores, when compared to a normal round on a normal server.

Thirdly, EA has busted knife players and knife servers since the game came out. If that does not put a light on in your head i seriously don't know what will.

Lastly, have we ever had a Supreme commander who was not a glorified stat padder? How come every time we look into their stats it's nothing but k&p servers? You gonna tell me its cause they all just happen to love knifing? The reason why they only play K&P servers is for the massive amount of points you can get without actually doing anything.

If it's not about the points or the badges then go do it on an unranked server. If it is really about the intense gameplay then there should be a million unranked k&p servers. Guess what? You wont find them because it all comes back to the points/stats/awards that people unfairly gain while playing on them.

1. if your trying to knife around tanks and walkers your doing it wrong in the first place.

2. because with those servers its not ABOUT winning the round, its about knfing for fun. Nobodies scores are being inflated, they are SOLIDLY big scores. You apparently either dont like fragging enemies or you just get bored easily(?) pretty dumb either way.

3. they do it because people like you complain about it. people at EA are not good players that understand thier games.

4. I do not care about supreme commander or major/leiutenant general ranks. most of the ones i have seen were not as good as me at pwning scrubs. THe last one i saw was an RDX spammer. those ranks are a joke.

5. I am 45th in +combat+ (could be higher but played CoD4 for 4 months), 8th in the US and i have stepped onto a knife or knife/pistol server hardly at all, maybe 10 times.

[Killerus]

i don't complain about nor do i even care about them.

You asked for reasons why it's considered stat padding and i gave you them.

If all you can do is take cheapshots at me then you have already lost this argument.

[Fingulfin]

K/P Servers are illegal because they break EA's ToS. The ToS are a binding contract, the violation of which renders your license of 2142 void.

http://support.ea.com/cgi-bin/ea.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=14865

Before you start whining, please note that these rules ARE a part of the ToS. While not directly mentioned, the license on the game that you have encompasses ANY and ALL rules that EA feels the need to implement.

You can't deny that EA says its wrong, and whether or not you like EA, EA is in charge of this game and its ranked servers. On an unranked server you can do whatever the hell you want, but when its ranked you cannot create an inflated scoring scenario or restrict what weapons/vehicles you can use.

PS: Funny video, made by me:
[MEDIA]http://youtube.com/watch?v=KtFdsauGOXk[/MEDIA]

[imported_Field]

i don't complain about nor do i even care about them.

You asked for reasons why it's considered stat padding and i gave you them.

If all you can do is take cheapshots at me then you have already lost this argument.

they wernt cheap shots. theyre logic is undeniable

fingulfin i have to go to my lame lecture i'll be back to talk

[Killerus]

You apparently either dont like fragging enemies or you just get bored easily(?) pretty dumb either way.

3. they do it because people like you complain about it. people at EA are not good players that understand thier games.

I am 45th in +combat+ (could be higher but played CoD4 for 4 months), 8th in the US and i have stepped onto a knife or knife/pistol server hardly at all, maybe 10 times.

if you were not trying to get into flame war why would say those things? Why bother posting what your game ranking is? This won't help your argument and won't make me any less right about knife servers=stat padding. Try again.:laugh:

[xslaneyx]

im sorry but IT DOES actually take more skill to knife people on a knife server than it does on a regular server caus you cant just run up behind some mentally challenged person and just shank them. everyone knows where you are. it is entirely different.

thats the biggest pile of horse **** ive ever heard rofl:laugh: think i might have to quote this for my signiature:laugh::laugh::laugh:

bunnyhopping in the center of berlin knifing aimlessly isnt skill im afriad. i think you will find its harder to knife(legit mind you not in a poxy k/p server) when theres people shooting at you

[imported_Field]

thats the biggest pile of horse **** ive ever heard rofl:laugh: think i might have to quote this for my signiature:laugh::laugh::laugh:

bunnyhopping in the center of berlin knifing aimlessly isnt skill im afriad. i think you will find its harder to knife(legit mind you not in a poxy k/p server) when theres people shooting at you

uh no knifing while people are shooting at you is just retarded, you cant make the comparison.

if you were not trying to get into flame war why would say those things? Why bother posting what your game ranking is? This won't help your argument and won't make me any less right about knife servers=stat padding. Try again.:laugh:

This goes back to "stat padding" your saying its doing something to "inflate" your score. You could say that going on nothing but infantry maps with AR and PKs+defib to be "stat padding" because you get a really high score per minute compared to if you were playing on some lame vehicle map and doing absolutely nothing. KNife/pistol servers are merely a more extreme example of this. Are you saying that its "not fair"(?) that people do this and score alot of points? They are legitimately fragging enemies that are trying to frag them. There is no garbage with "oh me and my bud kill/revive this guy and get 500 points in a match." is there? no....

If your not up somewhere on the leaderboard for something im not even sure why one would care.

I think "how bad knife servers are" is whats being "inflated" here.

i wouldnt spam emp nades either because you could consider it to be stat padding.

[Skates]

It's not a question of how bad they are. They are illegal in EA's eyes and that should be the end of the argument. (Although it comes up every few months and someone argues against it on these boards.) As has been said, if it was all about fun, they would be unranked servers. We have a knifing tourney in my clan from time to time on, guess what, our Unranked Server. Why don't these guys do the same? Because they want the points.

[imported_Field]

It's not a question of how bad they are. They are illegal in EA's eyes and that should be the end of the argument. (Although it comes up every few months and someone argues against it on these boards.) As has been said, if it was all about fun, they would be unranked servers. We have a knifing tourney in my clan from time to time on, guess what, our Unranked Server. Why don't these guys do the same? Because they want the points.

yeah fair enough. i guess its stupid to argue about this.

[DesmondLocke]

Yeah in other words this isnt hockey or football or soccer. trying to make it so you understand.:laugh: because that is apparently how you think, in context of sports. like 24/7

You completely missed my point of bringing sports up. These sports have rules attached to them. If you and your friends have your own private hockey rink, football field, soccer field, etc (unranked)... you can do whatever you want. When you play against other teams, there are rules of the sport you have to abide by (ranked). Same goes for 2142. A ranked knife-only server doesn't really exist since it against the rules. Therefore, if you choose to attack me with only a knife, that is again, your choice. I'm NOT stat padding. I'm simply dispatching enemies running at me with a knife.
Again, don't like it? Unrank the servers, then all 'rules' are legit.
If they remain ranked then it really is only for the points.

PS......I'm still waiting for your discussion with Fin. Since you'll lose cause he summed it all up nicely....

[imported_Field]

So your saying that there shouldnt be ranked knife servers because you dont want people to be getting more points than you from some other method that your unwilling to go about doing...