Dalian servers with no seatswitching/soloing rule

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  • #1 LoGoS.^CyN.TV*
    Member
    • Jul 2007
    • 468

    #46
    ^^^

    Agreed.


    Everybody that whines should just get better. There's no other solution. It's not our fault you're bad. Go practice.

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    • Rugerdog
      Member
      • Jul 2007
      • 468

      #47
      Originally posted by Sloi
      My contention is that preventing people from soloing IS against EA server rules. We could go into the reasons why I and many others believe this to be true, but frankly, I think it would fly over your head. If you'll excuse the pun...
      From EA ROC http://www.bf2rankedservers.com/foru...ead.php?t=7422
      "Server Administrators may implement and enforce rules that result in minor changes to game play behavior or styles as long as these are clearly stated before a player starts playing on a server. These rules typically introduce minor or limited restrictions on how a certain aspect of the game can be used, but do not create or promote an environment that would allow abuse of the scoring/award system. Examples of such rules that are acceptable are:

      * Limiting movement of combat assets, such as Titans, Ships, Aircraft and Vehicles during game play. – Disallowing all aircraft for example is not acceptable.
      * Disallowing repeated main base camping/attacking of un-captureable bases. However, in such cases, attacking the base with reasonable intent to take out assets (artillery, command outpost or radar) are acceptable
      * Limiting the use of artillery, or any other single commander asset to a particular region of the map."

      As far as I can tell, soloing is indeed covered by this so spend your energy that you waste on complaining and just find a new server.

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      • [Expletive Deleted]
        The Penetrator
        • Oct 2006
        • 2855

        #48
        Originally posted by Rugerdog
        From EA ROC http://www.bf2rankedservers.com/foru...ead.php?t=7422
        "Server Administrators may implement and enforce rules that result in minor changes to game play behavior or styles as long as these are clearly stated before a player starts playing on a server. These rules typically introduce minor or limited restrictions on how a certain aspect of the game can be used, but do not create or promote an environment that would allow abuse of the scoring/award system. Examples of such rules that are acceptable are:

        * Limiting movement of combat assets, such as Titans, Ships, Aircraft and Vehicles during game play. – Disallowing all aircraft for example is not acceptable.
        * Disallowing repeated main base camping/attacking of un-captureable bases. However, in such cases, attacking the base with reasonable intent to take out assets (artillery, command outpost or radar) are acceptable
        * Limiting the use of artillery, or any other single commander asset to a particular region of the map."

        As far as I can tell, soloing is indeed covered by this so spend your energy that you waste on complaining and just find a new server.
        That is broad enough to disallow using bombs from jets. So if you don't kick people for using jets, just kick them for using bombs, it's ok? Also, it says you can limit artillery use to a region of the map. I guess that means admins can say you can only arty your own uncap, huh?

        Hey, go big or stay home. If you want to make stupid rules to prohibit stuff you don't like, why stop at soloing? Hell, it does't say you can't limit firing modes on weapons, either. I want to see a server that says you have to single-shot everything. No auto or burst allowed. Oh, and no claymores except in front of your own air assets allowed, either. I hate getting killed by claymores. And no sniping from inside of 500m. I hate snipers, too. Oh, oh yeah, and jets aren't allowed to shoot at AA emplacements with their guns, either. Those guys have practiced too much and shoot me from beyond view distance all the time.
        I bet almost all of you said, "those rules are retarded, you can't enforce that." According to the ROE I can. It's written like a damned UCMJ manual, open to admin interpretation. And retarded.

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        • Chris_Redfield
          Member
          • Oct 2006
          • 5986

          #49
          Originally posted by Blud
          Damn, if you can't find a server to play because of your bans you would have had to pee off a lot a people. Hell that senario could never never. That is what I would say is complete bull$h!t. Only 3 servers left to play beside I/O because of ban--now my BS alarm is going off.
          Ahem... It sucks when I have to do all the thinking for you.

          Consider it this way. In your immediate surroundings, youve got X ammount of servers that play with a decent map rotation, and play with vehicles. (which means that we dont take the Korean BF2 servers into account because we dont like to play with a ping of 400). Out of these servers, a whole Y lot have stupid rules that specifically prohibit playing the game the way I like it (soloing, fighting commanders, baseraping), or where admins are known to be abusive, or kicking for the slightest reasons. Out of remaining Z number of servers, a limited number of C meet all terms, but Im banned from B of them, because the admins either think Im cheating, or they fabricated another reason to get rid of me. And now Im at the last one.

          Contrary to popular belief, BF2 does not have hordes and hordes of servers to play on. Considering the massive ammounf of IO, or Kockrand servers, you get a selection of "normal" ones with a decent rotation, but those are distributed in a scarcer scale and you have to still choose by ping.

          As for you asking if Sloi pays for his server. If youre paying for your own private space to be a jackas5, then you deserve all the heat you can get.

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          • DOGGiE52
            Member
            • Dec 2006
            • 2680

            #50
            The biggest issue here is the question of WHY can KIDS have servers at all? KIDS are the people who whine, KIDS are the ones who kick you for killing them, KIDS are the people who pull out their banhammer way too often!

            To be honest I think 95% of all servers I've been banned from for being too good has had underaged admins.

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            • Chris_Redfield
              Member
              • Oct 2006
              • 5986

              #51
              A ban button can be abused just as much by a 40 year old, even more abused.

              Since the majority of videogamers are between ~20~40 years old, you can bet that the champ who hits the ban key, is often not a kid anymore.

              Sad.

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              • Rugerdog
                Member
                • Jul 2007
                • 468

                #52
                Originally posted by Jimtool655321
                That is broad enough to disallow using bombs from jets. So if you don't kick people for using jets, just kick them for using bombs, it's ok? Also, it says you can limit artillery use to a region of the map. I guess that means admins can say you can only arty your own uncap, huh?

                Hey, go big or stay home. If you want to make stupid rules to prohibit stuff you don't like, why stop at soloing? Hell, it does't say you can't limit firing modes on weapons, either. I want to see a server that says you have to single-shot everything. No auto or burst allowed. Oh, and no claymores except in front of your own air assets allowed, either. I hate getting killed by claymores. And no sniping from inside of 500m. I hate snipers, too. Oh, oh yeah, and jets aren't allowed to shoot at AA emplacements with their guns, either. Those guys have practiced too much and shoot me from beyond view distance all the time.
                I bet almost all of you said, "those rules are retarded, you can't enforce that." According to the ROE I can. It's written like a damned UCMJ manual, open to admin interpretation. And retarded.
                Point is that if its not actually stat padding or k/p EA doesn't give a s**t so complaining here is only going to get you sympathy from the solo chopper whores, who are a small and largely egotistical minority.

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                • Webs961

                  #53
                  According to EACS (We asked back when Total RoE was still around), no soloing is a rule which can be implemented at the discretion of the server administrator.

                  No reprieve for the soloers, I'm afraid.

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                  • Rugerdog
                    Member
                    • Jul 2007
                    • 468

                    #54
                    There we go, end of argument (I hope).

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                    • sava700

                      #55
                      Originally posted by Webs961
                      According to EACS (We asked back when Total RoE was still around), no soloing is a rule which can be implemented at the discretion of the server administrator.

                      No reprieve for the soloers, I'm afraid.
                      The implementation of it is going against the ROE itself... your limiting use of a vehicle for a player if you don't allow them to use it in anyway they can use it..

                      This would be the same as if I was in a tank and you have a server admin say I couldn't switch seats to use the top gun.

                      Regardless if you think that is stupid to say, its true.

                      Bottom line is the admins that don't allow it are afraid of the players that would own them doubled up on their own server..ran into it many times.

                      I just find a server that doesn't have that stupid "no solo flying" rule and continue to own the noobs :)

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                      • DOGGiE52
                        Member
                        • Dec 2006
                        • 2680

                        #56
                        Servers who allow soloing are getting fewer and fewer.

                        I know a few people who own such servers, mostly running a setup of 16 players on a 64p Dalian, one of the best spots to solo on. And if you can't find any ranked ones you can always go on CLU or chopper mayhem.

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                        • Sloi sauce

                          #57
                          Hmmm, noted. I'll have to check those two out: are they well populated or is it only something like a handful of people at a time?

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                          • Skaggy
                            Member
                            • Feb 2007
                            • 1974

                            #58
                            Chopper mayhem has normally got a few chopper whore in it. I'm suprised I've never seen more TBF2 members on. It is in Europe, though.

                            Skaggeh + Doggeh ownage.

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                            • waaah_wah
                              TEAM BLADE!
                              • Jun 2007
                              • 3656

                              #59
                              Hm.. Are you sure its in Europe? Last time i was on i had ping of around 150...

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                              • Skaggy
                                Member
                                • Feb 2007
                                • 1974

                                #60


                                I'm sure, Scandinavian actually.

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